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The weather was not very cooperative but I spent an hour or so visiting with Dick and touring his incredible garden.

The first palm is his Butia X Parajubaea. This rare hybrid has been fast growing.

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ghar41

It really is a beauty. Add the fact its hybrid vigor...and no doubt this is a tremendously sought after hybrid.

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ghar41

Dick and my lovely assistant give scale to the plant. I'll let him take over from here on the details....I know it's only been in the ground a short period of time.

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iamjv

Glenn, thanks for posting these great shots of a beautiful hybrid... I have a small one and can't wait to see it be this size! Again thanks for the shots. Jv

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maesy

WOW, what a beauty!

I can't wait until spring arrives and I can mine in the ground.

Dick,

I saved the most of all the pictures that I have found of this hybrid and find that yours is the most similar to the father

shown on this picture:

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?ac...st&id=44844

Marcel

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PalmGuyWC

Thanks again to Glenn for sloshing around in the rain to get some photos. The above Butia X Parajubaea (cocoides) was planted about 3 years ago and this is it's 3rd winter. It was a 5 gal. size when planted. It has taken 23.5F with no damage. There are reports that this hybrid has taken much lower temps. with no foliage damage. It's my favorite hybrid palm and also one of the fastest growing. In the summer the emerging fronds grow about 1" in a 24 hour period and it has 4 or 5 fronds emerging at different stages of growth. It even grows some with our chilly winter nights.

As you can see the base of the petioles are covered with a thick fiber like Parajubaea, and the petioles have no thorns. The base of the trunk is about basketball size and the trunk continues to expand. I think this is going to be a large palm with a thick trunk. It's being cold tested right now, as it's 27F, our coldest temp. of the year.

Marcel, you are correct. The picture you posted of Darold Petty's P. cocoides is the daddy of my hybrid, and all the others that are of any size.

Dick

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freakypalmguy

That has really grown Dick, it appears like it has more than doubled it's size since the las time a pic was posted, probably triple.

Matt

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PalmGuyWC

Matt,

You are right, this palm almost doubles in size each growing season. I can only expect it will speed up as the trunk expands. At its present rate of growth, I expect it will bloom in 2 or 3 years.

I'm sure this will be a subject for Patrick to experiment on. At first it will have to be determined if it's sterile with a controlled polonization, and then to see if it's receptive to pollens from other species. I can see Patrick trying Syagrus, XButajubaea, Parajubaea and Jubaea, and God knows what else.

Dick

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TikiRick

Richard,

I know that you have recently had temperatures in the 20's. How well do you expect this palm to do in weather like that? Did you protect it at all?

What is the lowest temperature that it has seen so far? Any damage from cold from years past??

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PalmGuyWC

Hey Rick,

In the winter of '07 it got down to 23.5 F and unprotected the palm suffered no damage. I have heard reports of down to 18 F and even 14 F with no damage. Only time and that cold blask from Alaska will tell.

Dick

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Mark Heath

Hello Dick,

You had pm'd me asking for a pick of mine,, well here it is!! I don't think mine is as tall as yours, mine is about 8-9ft.

Beer for scale!!!! :lol:

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freakypalmguy

Very nice Mark. It has also grown a bunch since the last shot. How many years in the ground and from what size is yours?

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maesy

Thank you Mark,

It's a wonderful very clear picture.

Just unbelievable how fast they grow in your hot climes.

Mine will have to go through hard times if the winters of the coming years are like the one we are having right now.

For about ten days the main part of western Europe has been frozen. Below zero, day and night!

My lows so far went down to 16°F and has never been higher than 28°F at daytime.

This afternoon was 25°F!

Central Germany gets the whole cold spell from Russia with temperatures down to -4°F!

The weather forecast is announcing that it still goes on like that for another week.

Back to topic.

It is really very coconut look alike with those shining leaves.

I wonder how it will grow in my clime.

Marcel.

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Mark Heath
Very nice Mark. It has also grown a bunch since the last shot. How many years in the ground and from what size is yours?

Thanks Matt,

I planted it in 2004 i think (give a year or two) at a two gallon size. I put it in the ground as quickly as possable and staked it off so it would'nt be lawnmower food!!!! It has grown very quickly but it is a step behind a Mule palm that i planted across from it. I did this to rank it's growth rate. It is slower than the Mule but it grows all year long so it allmost catches the Mule, but not quite! If you want, i'll take a pic of the Mule palm that was planted at the same time and was the same size.

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osideterry

It resembles Parajubaea much more than Butia... The only thing tipping me off that it isn't all Parajubaea is less of a twist in the fronds, more flattened. Zero recurve as far as I can see from the photos too. The result is more Coco-like than either parents.

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JEFF IN MODESTO

Crap.... NOW I WANT ONE!

And I am running out of room in my yard... I guess it would look good in the center of my front yard..... wonder where I might purchase one....or two or three? ( I bet a mature triple would look dynomite! )

jeff

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Mark Heath

Thank you Mark,

It's a wonderful very clear picture.

Just unbelievable how fast they grow in your hot climes.

Mine will have to go through hard times if the winters of the coming years are like the one we are having right now.

For about ten days the main part of western Europe has been frozen. Below zero, day and night!

My lows so far went down to 16°F and has never been higher than 28°F at daytime.

This afternoon was 25°F!

Central Germany gets the whole cold spell from Russia with temperatures down to -4°F!

The weather forecast is announcing that it still goes on like that for another week.

Back to topic.

It is really very coconut look alike with those shining leaves.

I wonder how it will grow in my clime.

Marcel.

Hello Marcel,

Your weather is probably too cold for a BXP. Do you have a Butia growing there? I would say that a temp reading of

0 degrees would deffinatly kill it! What palms are you growing outside??

Jeff, you will not be dissapointed w/ this hybrid!

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maesy

Mark,

I'm going to plant mine at a very good protected place.

We did not have temperatures below 14°F here at my house for the last 5 years, and when a cold spell should come in, I will have to give my best and protect as good as I can.

I grow Chamaerops humilis, different Trachycarpus fortunei, Sabal minor, Jubaea chiliensis, chamaedorea radicalis(the first winter)

and lots of other exotics like fics, camelias,Albizia julibrissin, etc.

I'm also going to plant out a Butia eriospatha in spring.

Marcel

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PalmGuyWC

Jeff,

You might be able to purchase a Butia X Parajubaea from Patrick Schafer, as I think he's the only guy who has them. You might want to think about one tree because they are very expensive and I think they will grow to be a big palm. It is definately a stand alone palm. His E-mail address is: PLS@Hughes.net This is not the eaisest cocoid hybrid to do, and the demand is very high for this palm. Another nice hybrid to consider is Butia X Jubaea X (Syagrus).

Marcel,

If you can grow Chamaerops, then your could probably grow the Butia X Parajubaea. There are reports they have taken down to 10C. (14F).

Dick

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PalmGuyWC

Woops,

I ment to say -10 C. Sorry. I don't think in metric.

Dick

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PalmGuyWC

I marked the emerging frond of Butia X Parajubaea about 5 days ago. It's growth has come to a complete halt, as it's been quite chilly in N. Calif. I don't think I've had two days above 60F since before Christmas, and the nightly lows have been hovering right around 32 F (0 C ) give or take a few degrees. Night time temps. should remain the same, but lower 70's are forcast for the next few days. It will be interesting to see if this promotes any growth.

Dick

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JasonD
Dick and my lovely assistant give scale to the plant. I'll let him take over from here on the details....I know it's only been in the ground a short period of time.

I saw it in July and it's grown +30% since then!

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Mark Heath
I marked the emerging frond of Butia X Parajubaea about 5 days ago. It's growth has come to a complete halt, as it's been quite chilly in N. Calif. I don't think I've had two days above 60F since before Christmas, and the nightly lows have been hovering right around 32 F (0 C ) give or take a few degrees. Night time temps. should remain the same, but lower 70's are forcast for the next few days. It will be interesting to see if this promotes any growth.

Dick

Hello Dick,

I know you was wondering if my Florida grown BXP was larger than yours or not. Well, i have an idea, please send your

"lovely assistant" here and we will be able to compare!!!!! :winkie: It's the only way to compare sizes!!!! :lol:

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PalmGuyWC

Hi Mark,

LOL, you are a dirty old man. I'm sure the "lovely assistant" belongs to Glenn in Modesto. She is indeed a beautiful, charming "assistant" and puts up with Glenn's palm madness. She was quite patient as we sloshed around in the rain as Glenn took pictures. They have a young son who stood with us until the end of what was not a plesant palm viewing day. He seems to know his palms and I'm sure he will be a future Palm Society member.

Dick

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Mark Heath
Hi Mark,

LOL, you are a dirty old man. I'm sure the "lovely assistant" belongs to Glenn in Modesto. She is indeed a beautiful, charming "assistant" and puts up with Glenn's palm madness. She was quite patient as we sloshed around in the rain as Glenn took pictures. They have a young son who stood with us until the end of what was not a plesant palm viewing day. He seems to know his palms and I'm sure he will be a future Palm Society member.

Dick

Hello Dick!!

Yes,,, I am dirty,, but i am not old, not yet anyways!!!! :lol: Unless you concider 44yrs old!!!! I do have my own "senorita" that puts up w/ my palm madness as well!! She is a Columbiana, actually my wife looks alot like your friends "assistant"!!!

Like i said your BXP looks to be a little bigger than mine, there is hope for others who live in a cooler climate than I! Apparently it prefers cooler climates!!!! Watch out Matt in Temecula, your BXP is going to skyrocket!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!

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PalmGuyWC

Mark,

Anyone less than 55 is young to me. :)

Your Butia X Parajubaea looks to be about the same size as mine. I'm following the growth of yours with interest, because we have totally different climates, and yet they seem to do fine in both. Mine really chuggs along in the summer time, but now with my chilly night temps. I can hardly detect any growth at all. It looks like you guys in Florida are about to get a winter chill. Make sure you protect the Butia X Coconut.

Dick

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Walter John

That is one monster palm, and it looks great. I should read these Butia hybrid threads more often.

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PalmGuyWC
That is one monster palm, and it looks great. I should read these Butia hybrid threads more often.

Wal,

I know Jubaeas grow in Sydney, but is it to tropical for them to grow in Brisbane?

Dick

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thestales
The weather was not very cooperative but I spent an hour or so visiting with Dick and touring his incredible garden.

The first palm is his Butia X Parajubaea. This rare hybrid has been fast growing.

Holy moly!!! I bet this one is rather cold hardy. Is this a butia or an eriospatha?

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ErikSJI

How are these Hybrids doing? The Butia X Parajubaea that is.

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PalmGuyWC

How are these Hybrids doing? The Butia X Parajubaea that is.

Erik,

Check out the thread with Caps, BUTIA X PARAJUBAEA, as it has the most current photo. The photo by Troy was taken in Sept. 2010, so the palm has grown some since then. The crown of the palm is about 20 feet across and the base of the trunk is about 2 feet in diameter.. I can't believe how fast this palm is growing. It was planted in the summer of 2006.

My other hybrids have reached the size where they should really explode with growth this summer.

Dick

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pindo

Sorry people !!!

Who can tell me which Butia sp and which Parajubaea sp are the parents of this hybrid ???

many thanks guys

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PalmGuyWC

Sorry people !!!

Who can tell me which Butia sp and which Parajubaea sp are the parents of this hybrid ???

many thanks guys

Hi Pindo,

Butia Odorata (capitata) X Parajubaea cocoides.

Dick

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pindo

Sorry people !!!

Who can tell me which Butia sp and which Parajubaea sp are the parents of this hybrid ???

many thanks guys

Hi Pindo,

Butia Odorata (capitata) X Parajubaea cocoides.

Dick

Thanks Dick

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