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One more photo.. :rolleyes: This one is Orania lauterbacchiana.

Clayton, this is what Ho'omaluhia has labled as O. lauderbachiana. Obviously a different palm. Any ideas as to what it is? Thanks. Love the pics, keep 'em coming man!

Hi Matt,

Sorry it’s taken some time to answer you back..! It does not look like any of the Orania’s from PNG..! Possibly it’s one from the Philippines..? :hmm:

Ps I will list some more photos soon, I have just been a little too busy at the moment..! :)

Regards,

Clayton

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Ok here are a few more photos this one is from northeastern India,

Areca nagensis

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Arenga wightii

Also from India.

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Pinanga dicksonii.

Another Indian species, Hey Kris I hope you like these.!! :)

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Back to Borneo with one of the most sort after licualas besides mapu,

Licuala cordata :drool:

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Pinanga aristata

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And a new species of Licuala sp. from Rawan, also from Borneo this species was only just discovered a few months ago.

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Now I will go back on to some Dypsis, this is "Possibly" a very rare form of the broad leaf thiryana..?

Note the divided leaf, which looks very similar to the broad leaf type thiryana palm that this palm is growing in the same locality.

Also note the inflorescence in the second photo, which is also very similar to the broad leaf thiryana type palms inflorescence, but has a little longer Rachilla..!

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So "Possibly" this is a very rare form of the broad leaf thiryana?? :hmm: this form/species is a clumping species that grows to just over 2m tall but these last reaming 3 plants could be quite old which would explain their size, which is also taller than the other species growing in the same locality.

There are only 3 clumps (plants) left of this form/species in habitat, that is it..! :rage: The collectors spent two days in this locality and checked every plant their and their is no more of this form/species! The inflorescence looks to be almost identical as the species that it's growing side by side with, which is the form listed as the broad leaf thiryana, more work is needed to see if this is just a form of this other species or in fact a new species. What ever the case this form/species looks to be critically endangered and is now only represented by these last 3 reaming plants in habitat. The local villagers have no use for this species, as these are no good for the use in making blow-pipes, (which many of these understory species are used for) also they are now cutting timber in this area so the future for this form/species does not look good at all.!! : ( :angry:

Dypsis sp thiryana broad leaf form this form comes from the same locality, I just thought I would add these photo so you all could see the similarities, so the first photo is of the same species as the photos above the next two photos are of the broad leaf thiryana type plant and one of the inflorescence of this species. :rolleyes:

Thats all for tonight more photos soon,

Regards

Clayton.

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Gbarce

Wow Clayton you just added about a dozen palms to my "must-have-but-will-probably-never-attain" list.

The Pinangas are particularly interesting. Does the Pinanga Cleistantha keep the mottling even when the palm is old already?

I only have Pinanga Maculata and there is heavy mottling in new leaves and eventually fade. And now that the palm is beginning to trunk-- even the mottling in the new leaves is a lot less conspicuous. Is this true for all Pinangas?

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John in Andalucia

A photo-rich topic, and "must-see" for Licuala fans! There's even a post of a mature, seeding Lavoixia macrocarpa! drool.gif

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BS Man about Palms

Ok Here are some more great photos..! :drool:

Here is a form of what I think to be Dypsis "catatiana" this species seems to have quite a few different forms even in the same locality you can see two different forms growing together, this form looks very similar to Dypsis simianensis, (I must say this is a very nice form) but as you can see the inflorescence looks too short..? And the leaf also looks like it's too deeply cut to be Dypsis simianensis..? Also the seed shape of this species is more like a Dypsis catatiana form than Dypsis simianensis but both seeds are quite simular to each other from what I can gather, simianensis seed is more rounded at the ends where catatiana seeds comes to a point at one end, but it's still very hard to tell!! :huh:

As this species has so many different localities each locality can have a different form I think a more appropriate name of this species should have been Dypsis variabilis, although there seems to be quite a few of these Dypsis that can have more than one form and look like another species.

A good example of this is Dypsis bosseri this species can also look like a few other species as well, I will list some photos of a few different forms of these after these habitat photos of mine.

I will also list few more forms of Dypsis catatiana from Philip's photos from his Madagascar trip with John after this post.

For those that received seeds of this species as Dypsis catatiana there was another species mixed in with this seed unfortunately the seed was identical so there was no way of telling that there was this second species in with this seed and I have only just found out that the two species were mixed in under the same name (Dypsis catatiana). The good news is that it looks like this other species is possibly a New species..!

It's simular to Dypsis tenuissima but looks to be a slightly larger form, and is slightly different in it's appearance, I'm still waiting to hear back from John on what he thinks about this species. :hmm:

So here are the photos of what I think is possibly a Dypsis catatiana form and for those that received seed of this species, please note that the seedlings look like they have a bluish tinge to them to tell the difference between this one compared to the other species.

I wonder which the "latest" tennuisima is?

So shoot me for this bump too....haha

Plus, I forgot how cool this thread is!!

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Cedric

Nice bump, always nice to have a place to visit, Im thinking hard already for an excuse....... I do have a brother somewhere out there hmmmmm. Wow some nice things coming out of the wide world of palms.

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Walter John

Just went through this whole thread again, man, those Licualas are really dreamy.. :drool:

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Bill Austin

BUMP this is a great post for anybody who has not seen it.

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