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Californians - report your winter lows here


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Winter is just about over, and my lows for the past 3 days have been at or above 50F. My low this morning was 55F. We could sure use some more rain. All of the water districts in the Bay Area are talking about a 25% reduction in water usage.

Dick

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Winter is just about over, and my lows for the past 3 days have been at or above 50F. My low this morning was 55F. We could sure use some more rain. All of the water districts in the Bay Area are talking about a 25% reduction in water usage.

Dick

Maybe rain this weekend....I hope

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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The storm window I mentioned a bit ago is coming. Here is the latest on it. It's a good quick cold storm ...

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WEATHER AUTHORITY

MARCH 18, 2009 2:00pm Pacific Time

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ...

THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WEATHER AUTHORITY HAS UPDATED A HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK ...

THE OUTLOOK ISSUED YESTERDAY SAID THAT NOAA'S MODELS SHOWED THE STORM GIVING US ONLY VERY LIGHT RAIN WITH NOT MUCH TO IT ACROSS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THIS WAS GOING AGAINST THE SCWXA UJEAS PROGRAM IN GIVING THE STORM TRACK DIRECTLY INTO THE AREA.

LATEST OUTPUTS NOW FROM NOAA'S MODELS NOW ARE INLINE WITH THE UJEAS SO CONFIDENCE IS GROWING IN A FORECASTER STANCE OF A STORM SYSTEM HITTING THIS WEEKEND.

HIGH CLOUDS WILL STREAM AHEAD FOR A MOSTLY CLOUDY DAY ON THURSDAY, THEN THE STORM SYSTEM HITS EARLY SUNDAY ON THE PROJECTIONS. THE WINDS WILL BE STRONG OUT THERE ACROSS THE ENTIRE FORECAST AREA. GOING TO GO WITH 30 TO 40 MPH IN GUSTS EVEN AT THE COAST RIGHT NOW WITH EVEN STRONG GUSTS IN THE MOUNTAINS. NO DOUBT WIND WARNINGS AND ADVISORIES WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE STORM SYSTEM.

SNOW LEVELS LOOK TO BE AT THE PASSES FOR THIS COLDER TYPE SYSTEM SO AM WATCHING AND WILL ISSUE THE APPROPRIATE WINTER WATCH IF NEEDED IN THOSE AREAS. STILL KEEP IN MIND A STORM SYSTEM IS COMING FROM A COLD SOURCE SO PLANS ON SUNDAY COULD BE ALTERED AS A RESULT.

DUE TO THE STORM TRAJECTORY AND COLD AIR ALOFT, A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE FROM LOS ANGELES LATITUDE NORTHWARD SUNDAY ...

SCWXA - SCWXA.org

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Kevin Martin - Meteorologist

Southern California Weather Authority

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Thanks Kevin. This is going to be a cold system & night temps will easily drop into the 40's or colder in places. Too bad available moisture is skimpy but that's typical with polar jet storms.

Quite a shift from today's\ Wednesday readings:

GETTY CENTER: 83/ 60

LAX: 71/ 53

DOWNTOWN/USC: 84/ 54

BEVERLY HILLS: 91/ 60

MALIBU: 65/ 53

SANTA MONICA: 72/ 52

CHATSWORTH: 89/ 54

PASADENA: 86/ 56

WOODLAND HILLS: 87/ 45

FILLMORE: 87/ 50

SIMI VALLEY: 87/ 64

SANTA BARBARA CITY: 78/ 50

FULLERTON: 83/ 51

SANTA ANA: 87/ 52

LAGUNA BEACH: 66/ 46

LAKE FOREST: 85/ 53

OCEANSIDE AIRPORT: 72/ 41

VISTA: 81/ 48

MONTGOMERY FIELD: 81/ 50

SAN DIEGO: 74/ 52

RIALTO: 90/ 55

RIVERSIDE UCR: 90/ 51

TEMECULA: 86/ 48

WILD ANIMAL PARK: 88/ 44

SANTEE: 84/ 47

EL CARISO: 85/ 60

PALM SPRINGS: 91/ 62

OCOTILLO WELLS: 89/ 65

87F\ 30.5C

58F\ 14.4C

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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Does this late system mean I should cover my Pride of Maderia (Echium candicans)? About 50% of the time, I get a late frost just as the flower buds are half developed, and they get whacked.

Dick

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Does this late system mean I should cover my Pride of Maderia (Echium candicans)? About 50% of the time, I get a late frost just as the flower buds are half developed, and they get whacked.

Dick

You're lucky. My Echium is not showing any bud development at all....... it is a year old but it quintupuled in size.

Maybe next year. I saw a number of them in Hayward yesterday with half developed flowers in bloom. Very nice!

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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At least it's a quick punch right Happ? Just one of those run-away systems lol. Anyway I'm kind of hoping for more rain. It looks pretty dynamic further North say Inland Empire / LA latitude for thunderstorms with those dynamics but other than that a good refresher. I don't know about a foot or two feet of snow like accu-weather predicts here but still a good quick snow hit.

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Southern California Weather Authority

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Does this late system mean I should cover my Pride of Maderia (Echium candicans)? About 50% of the time, I get a late frost just as the flower buds are half developed, and they get whacked.

Dick

I would recommend it. I just looked at your location via your profile and a very cold night up there is going to hit SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY MORNING.

Kevin

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Southern California Weather Authority

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Crap. My Delonix is starting to show signs of wanting to leaf out, so I watered it real well for the first time all winter yesterday hoping it would pop. I hope it dosen't loose those new growth points. I rubbed out all the lower ones thinking the top ones were going.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Crap. My Delonix is starting to show signs of wanting to leaf out, so I watered it real well for the first time all winter yesterday hoping it would pop. I hope it dosen't loose those new growth points. I rubbed out all the lower ones thinking the top ones were going.

Good luck, Matty. I gave up on royal poinciana ever flowering. Someone posted a photo a few years ago of a real beauty in San Diego [i think near Harbor Drive?]

Hoping for some rainfall but it seems forecasting showers is a certain jinx :unsure: We can be sure that it will get cold [even San Diego airport could observe minimums below 50F\ 10C Monday morning].

Lo: 55.6F\ 13.11C

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Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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Double crap! This is the problem of living in N. Calif....Today is georgeous here, the warmest day of the year, upper 70's, and then cold on Sat. I was moving plants out today.....guess I'll have to move them back under cover. I hope this is the last blast of winter, but I've been saying that for weeks. I don't expect much rain out of this either. All of the fronts have been weak this year.

Dick

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It didn't get nearly as cold here last night as predicted (39 predicted, 45 actual). Many rain showers overnight but sunny today.

Hopefully this arctic push will fizzle out.

John Case

Brentwood CA

Owner and curator of Hana Keu Garden

USDA Zone 9b more or less, Sunset Zone 14 in winter 9 in summer

"Its always exciting the first time you save the world. Its a real thrill!"

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Careful on the temps tonight you guys I did a write up, here it is.

FROST ADVISORY

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WEATHER AUTHORITY

MARCH 22, 2009 10:00am Pacific Time

THE INLAND EMPIRE ... NORTHERN SAN DIEGO COUNTY COASTAL OCEANSIDE ... SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY ... KERN COUNTY VALLEYS ...

THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WEATHER AUTHORITY HAS ISSUED A FROST ADVISORY EFFECTIVE TILL 8AM MONDAY MORNING ...

A COLD TROUGH WILL PASS TODAY BRINGING IN VERY COLD AIR. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL INTO THE 30'S TONIGHT BEHIND THE TROUGH AS DRIER AIR WORKS IT'S WAY IN. FROST WILL BE LIKELY WITH THESE CONDITIONS ...

SCWXA - SCWXA.org

A Frost Advisory is issued When dynamics produce frost in the area. Isolated frost is not the issue on hand.

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Southern California Weather Authority

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I can vouch for the cold. The front moved through N. Calif. last night and I got very little rain from it. It was mild this morning but the temps are dropping with strong NNW winds gusting up to 30 MPH. If the winds subside tonight, I expect near freezing and frost. It is only 54 F here at noon. S. Calif. prepare yourself. The winds make it seem much colder.

Dick

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I wish this thread would go away, that would mean that there is no more icky weather :)

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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I wish this thread would go away, that would mean that there is no more icky weather :)

Matt,

Actually your WINTER cold weather has gone away! Ya'll need to start a new thread Californians-report your spring lows here!

It is SPRING 3/20/2009 everywhere in the northern hemisphere that can grow palms ,except maybe California ! :mrlooney::lol: just joking!

Seriously I hope you guys don't get any freezing temps this late in the season, that would suck, good luck! :)

Scott

Titusville, FL

1/2 mile from the Indian River

USDA Zone COLD

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We got a quick 10 minute downpour here, then nothing else but wind. Temps maxed out at 61F. It should get progressively warmer as the week goes on.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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It's still dark here in N. Calif., but at 6 AM my temp is 35.8F and I expect there will be a white frost on the roof tops this morning. It looks like a warming trend starting today, and about time. I spread fertilizer before this last front expecting rain. It never came, so I'll have to water it in today.

Dick

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30 here in Corona right now

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Southern California Weather Authority

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31.8F for me with light frost. I covered a few things last night. Mainly Cycads that are mid flush. Looking forward to the warming trend.

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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My low this morning is 39.7F. There is oddly a bit of ice on the car windows.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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My wife put her car in the garage when I issued the Frost Advisory yesterday morning. She hates scraping ice! LOL. The trees are mine to take care of though. Put the dog inside too.

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Southern California Weather Authority

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Wind died around 3AM at my place and the temperature dropped quickly after that. My low this morning was 6.5C (44F)...

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

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Down to 45F at my place overnight.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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I had 37.7 this morning. But no frost in my car windshield (just unfrozen water). A hint of it on the lower Northern slope of the roof. Once again I'm the coldest non-Temecula microclimate in SD county!

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

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Matt, why'd you have to go steal my bragging rights like that... jeeez!

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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It was 42F when I woke up at 8:00. So I probably got to a low of 40F. I accidently reset my gauge before I looked.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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At 535am I saw 38.8 in back and 40.5 up front. Brrrr I miss Florida!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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38F this morning after a very blustery Sunday and wet (1/2 inch of rain) and thundery Saturday night.

Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

zone 10a/9b

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I think Scott is right that this thread is losing it's pertinence after this morning though the usual cold locations could see another chilly morning tomorrow. March is basically the end of the cold season :mrlooney: The strong wind kept my temp from dropping too low but it was the first night below 50F in several weeks. Looks like a nice week ahead w/ dry air & sunny skies.

Monday 3-23-09

CULVER CITY: 70/ 50

GETTY CENTER: 66/ 45

LAX: 68/ 50

DOWNTOWN/USC: 69/ 51

SANTA MONICA: 73/ 51

BURBANK: 70/ 48

PASADENA: 68/ 44

WOODLAND HILLS: 65/ 46

OJAI: 68/ 31

SIMI VALLEY: 62/ 45

SANTA BARBARA CITY: 61/ 50

FULLERTON AIRPORT: 69/ 41

SANTA ANA: 71/ 41

LAKE FOREST: 70/ 40

OCEANSIDE HARBOR: 60/ 40

SAN DIEGO: 62/ 49

RIALTO: 67/ 35

RIVERSIDE UCR: 69/ 35

TEMECULA: 69/ 33

LA MESA: 64/ 44

PALM SPRINGS: 73/ 42

70F\ 21.1C

47F\ 8.3C

Los Angeles/Pasadena

34° 10' N   118° 18' W

Elevation: 910'/278m

January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F

July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F

Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm

USDA 11/Sunset 23

http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW

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Don't forget the inside slider Thursday. We are watching that incase it wants to do more than just pass to the East.

Edited by KMartin

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Southern California Weather Authority

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40.2F but feels colder outside. Come on Spring.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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38.5F here this morning. Much better.

Edit: Just plummeted to 37.8 and snowing :)

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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45.5F this morning with boiling rain and frogs. Let's put this puppy to rest.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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  • 2 weeks later...

Cold weather is not over yet. It's 38F in Walnut Creek this morning, the coldest it's been in over 2 weeks. I see it's about the same in Temecula. We may get rain on Monday, fingers crossed. My lows have been running about 48-54 and things are begining to grow. Roses and Iris in full bud and they should be georgeous next week. All the Tracheycarpus are flowering, also some Chamaerops and the Livistonas.

Dick

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36.9F at my place. On the verge of frost. I had all my high power fans blowing toward O-side Terry's house, or it might have been colder :)

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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I saw 42.6F yesterday, so your fans weren't affecting me much. I haven't seen anything lower than that for a couple weeks now.

Winter's over now? Can I call it done yet? I think I can.

Zone 9b/10a, Sunset Zone 22

7 miles inland. Elevation 120ft (37m)

Average annual low temp: 30F (-1C)

Average annual rainfall: 8" (20cm)

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I'm still nervous for a couple more weeks yet, but I see various palms trying to open leaves....the Kentiopsis piersoniorum among them. :D

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I hear ya Bill. I've killed several Delonix regia by getting fooled with April warmth, pulling them out of the greenhouse, only to have them wither and rot away in our May gray.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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