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phatmiata

Wow great thread!!! Great pictures "Kris" !! Can you post more pictures of the adult trees? That is a great looking palm!!

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Kris

Dear Randy :)

Thanks and iam happy you like the illustrations..And as for as stills & photo tour on the palmyra trees found in their natural habitate is seen in the link given below.Kindly visit and tell me how you feel.But the borassus flabifier seen in those stills are regular type or standard form.. :hmm:

http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...c=14932&hl=

Lots of love to you,

Kris :)

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Kris

I must say some palmyra seeds did germinate on its way to the final destination... :lol: The still seen below was sent to me,by the member who received those seeds from me... :winkie:

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Love,

Kris :)

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Kris
Hello Friends :)

Here are few updates on the Borassus.F growing in big black industrial barrel..the germinated seed has put out a spear nearly after 2 full months time ! this barrel is placed in our roof top garden taking full sunlight...all these days ! And i used to water it gently every day.

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Any news as to how your borassus.F are all doing...? :hmm:

thanks & Love,

Kris :)

And for the next 7 months here we are having summer season,so keep checking my signature to get the weather report of my region.since it has its effect on my palms grouth rate !

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mine is still nothing to see

just wait quietly off

great job kris

I also hope that my going so well

peter

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geonomaDude

Hi everyone,

Here is an update of my Borassus flabellifer and Corypha macropoda germinated palms.

Lets start with the B. flabellifer:

I decided that I should check the PVC tubes to see if the seedlings had run out of space; this because they had some months by then.

Here is a picture of the bottom of the PVC tube, you can appreciate some secodary roots making their way through the drainage rock layer.

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Then, the seedling was removed from the PVC tube to check for its size.

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I'm curious about this opening in the basal part of first root, just above the secondary roots. I think the leaf spear will grow from there, I'm I right???

Please let me know your comments about it.

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Here is the planted seedling in a BIG hole: 120cm deep and 60cm aprox. wide. A layer of rock was used for drainage, and them some river sand mixed with rich soil was applied. When the height was exact for the seedling, it was introduced. A mixture of small volcanic rocks, rich soil and river sand was applied just above the secondary roots. After that, the hole was filled with river sand to make it easier for the spear to emerge. Some mulching was applied to reduce fast evaporation and drying of the sandy substrate.

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Now, the C. macropoda:

Germination.

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After germination, it was grown in a small container until it produced its first leaf.

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Today, it was repotted, in a bigger container.

The process:

Layer of rock for drainage purposes.

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After a thick layer of rich soil, the plant was set.

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The pot was filled with the same rich soil, and the 'dampening method' was used to remove air pockets.

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Some volcanic rocks for mulching.

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Her two sisters! :lol:

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hi all

just a question

I've looked borassus flabifier seed

they are in a 25 cm pot

now the question is an even bigger pot wise

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Kris

Dear Friends :)

Here is a update still...and right from the begining i have used a big sized barrel and i have not moved or touched this seed or its root system till this day ! So i do not know what design the root will look like...year after year the same results for me,unless our pet does something to the seeds in pots that are easily accessiable.

And dear smile now you can pot it in a big pot but the medium should be course sandy soil or punic stones,since they damp off easily at this stage in cooler regions.

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Love,

Kris :)

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Kris
Here is a update for this month,and if you want to know about the present temperature conditions of the place i live in,just refer my signature..which has daily weather report highlighted on it ! :)

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Love,

Kris :)

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Howeadypsis

wow that looks a big seed! More like a little furry critter!

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Kris

Updates ! :)

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Love,

Kris :)

By the way friends how are your Borassus.F doing ??? :hmm:

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hi all

my borassus flabifier is not good

one is broken

and two still do not

only one root has no growth point

good news

the first three Corypha macropoda germinate

and a photo from the week

peter

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Carlo Morici

Kris,

We had some bad luck with your seed and we eventually got just one seedling. Can you please send a few more later?

Al,

I would love to see a pic of your B.sambiranensis. Maybe we should start a new thread?

Carlo

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Kris

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He aquí una actualización! (here's an update !) :)

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Un Close-Up ! (A Close-Up !)

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Mucho amor, (Lots of love)

kris :)

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no fun

great photo, s

my plants are dead. had two but my daughter has dropped them and broken

hope yet again to get seeds to try

kris thanks for your photo, s

peter

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palman

These are definitely worth the challenges of seed germinating!

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Peter Pacific

Hello Peter,

Please keep us posted on your Borassus seeds. Kris has sent me some and I am awaiting their arrival. I´ve read every post...several times...and can´t wait til they get here. Good Luck to you and, Kris, you´re amazing!

Peter

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hello peter

My seeds are dead

My daughter had mistakenly dropped the seeds

while the roots are broken off

Now I hope ever to get a seed.

Kris thanks for your nice photo, s

peter

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Peter Pacific

Hello everyone, I just wanted to show my bounty...Thank you Kris...and a few pics of the initial germination process. The warmest place right now is on top of the fridge so that´s where the baggies are! Wish me luck! Peter

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Peter Pacific

and...I changed the size settings to take other pics...sorry if this file is too big or too long a download. I will change the setting and take some more when I get back to the beach. Peter

Mod Edit: Photo deleted per request. Personal address was visible.

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Peter Pacific

one more...

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Moose

Deep containers a must. They really hate their roots disturbed. I had one get really set back by repotting to a 25 gallon size. I think it is best to plant with the container in the ground. These monsters will grow and bust the container no problem. :blink:

Ron. :rolleyes:

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Peter Pacific

Good Morning everybody,

I just wanted to offer an update on the Borassus seeds. I bagged them on the 28th of November and today planted them (December 23rd). Of the 11 seeds that Kris sent me, 10 have germinated and one more I left in germination for just a little while longer. I planted one Big Mama seed directly into the ground and the others in a big homemade box and chicken wire for the prescribed "suspension method". The chicken wire on the bottom of the box is a much more open weave than what is visible in the photograph. But since our soil is so sandy I can imagine the first leaf having a hard time reaching the surface. I am experimenting and having fun. Kris said the only way to repay him was to germinate the seeds and fill Guatemala with Borassus flabellifer palms...I am determined to make that happen.

Peter

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Mark Heath

Kris,

I had 8 seeds germinate out of ten. I'll still wait for the last two! I did what you said and planted in the ground all of the germinated seeds, no pots for me!!

I am thankfull for your kindness and i took very special care of them!

Meg, thank you again for sending me the Borrassus seeds!

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PalmatierMeg
Kris,

I had 8 seeds germinate out of ten. I'll still wait for the last two! I did what you said and planted in the ground all of the germinated seeds, no pots for me!!

I am thankfull for your kindness and i took very special care of them!

Meg, thank you again for sending me the Borrassus seeds!

Mark, that is great news. I'm still waiting for my Big Mama seed to do something. And I'll have to wait about 6 months to see the 1st leaf of the B.f. I planted in the back yard.

Peter, way to go. Hope your seeds give you lots of palms.

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Peter Pacific
Kris,

I had 8 seeds germinate out of ten. I'll still wait for the last two! I did what you said and planted in the ground all of the germinated seeds, no pots for me!!

I am thankfull for your kindness and i took very special care of them!

Meg, thank you again for sending me the Borrassus seeds!

Mark, that is great news. I'm still waiting for my Big Mama seed to do something. And I'll have to wait about 6 months to see the 1st leaf of the B.f. I planted in the back yard.

Peter, way to go. Hope your seeds give you lots of palms.

Hi Mark, Hi Meg...I've been thinking the same thing...put the seeds directly into the ground. Good Luck with the Big Mama seed Meg, they're huge! Peter

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Peter Pacific

I was so worried about getting the germination right that, now, I am left with one question: How can I tell which saplings will be male and which will be female? Any help? Peter

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Now, I am left with one question: How can I tell which saplings will be male and which will be female ? Any help ? Peter

Dear Peter :)

The results are fentastic and great work ! :greenthumb: And by the way impressive stills ! :winkie: And now coming to your question to tell wheather the B.F palm is a male or female will certainly take up to 8 to 12 years in gound also depending on ones climate the waiting period will be greater.. :huh: But for you it should be around 8 to 9 years at most. :lol:

Dear Mark :)

Your B.F seeds germination results are also great ! :greenthumb:

And here are some updates of the borassus.F that is growing fine in our roof top garden ! :winkie:

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A close up !

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Lots of love to you all,

kris :)

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Thank you all for posting photos, the big mama s

mine are all gone, had fallen and broken roots

I hope for you that they are beautiful.

And I also hope to get seeds

to try again

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Mark Heath
Kris,

I had 8 seeds germinate out of ten. I'll still wait for the last two! I did what you said and planted in the ground all of the germinated seeds, no pots for me!!

I am thankfull for your kindness and i took very special care of them!

Meg, thank you again for sending me the Borrassus seeds!

Mark, that is great news. I'm still waiting for my Big Mama seed to do something. And I'll have to wait about 6 months to see the 1st leaf of the B.f. I planted in the back yard.

Peter, way to go. Hope your seeds give you lots of palms.

Hi Mark, Hi Meg...I've been thinking the same thing...put the seeds directly into the ground. Good Luck with the Big Mama seed Meg, they're huge! Peter

Meg, Kris, and Peter,

Thanks guys keep the updates coming! Update; i now have 9 of 10 germinated and i am sure to have the last one soon.

Peter,

Kris had said that it was best to plant the germinated seed directly in the ground if you can, so that is what i have done!

Meg told me the same thing and thanks to her, i'll have some shoots coming up in my yard next summer!

Kris,

Your seedling is getting really big!! My friends from India explained to me a process of retrieving water from the Borrassus.

I have forgotten the term she used, but you know what i mean! She also explained eating the fruit and the taste just like you

explained. She is very happy to have a germinated seed sown in her front yard, now i will give her another one!

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Kris
Your seedling is getting really big!! My friends from India explained to me a process of retrieving water from the Borrassus.

I have forgotten the term she used, but you know what i mean! She also explained eating the fruit and the taste just like you

explained. She is very happy to have a germinated seed sown in her front yard, now i will give her another one!

Dear Mark :)

Your welcome ! And yes,this palm has a notorious reputation of giving juice(Water)when fermented is as good as russian Vodka and this stuff we call it here as Arrak.But no fermented water is very good for health and is on par with tender coconut water in nutrition & has cooling properties of water melon ! And some seniors to whom i talked said that this water has similar properities found in 'Gensing',So no doubt our continent is over populated... :rolleyes:

Anyway of all the years i have sent seeds,i think this batch seem to have the maxium germination rate,hope & pray that these germinated seeds even grow-up in to healthy looking palms in future. :greenthumb:

Lots of love,

kris :)

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Wai`anae Steve

I plan to put some in the ground.

How deep?

What would be the spread of the fronds when it just gets big enough to trunk? Need to figure out spacing with other palms.

What If I put 3 in one big hole? Would it look good as a clumper and give me more chance for male female next to each other?

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Davidl

I germinated some last year and after one year they are only about three fronds.

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Kris
I plan to put some in the ground.

How deep?

What would be the spread of the fronds when it just gets big enough to trunk? Need to figure out spacing with other palms.

What If I put 3 in one big hole? Would it look good as a clumper and give me more chance for male female next to each other?

Dear Steve :)

Here are some visuals,and i think they answer all your questions and i also insist you & others visit the link i have given below to see how these palms they grow in the wild.. :hmm:

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Here is a still with rows of B.F palm lined up ! :drool:

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And here's the link !

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Love,

kris :)

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Wai`anae Steve

Thanks Kris, how deep should I plant the seeds in the ground>

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Kris
Thanks Kris, how deep should I plant the seeds in the ground

Dear Steve :)

Nice question ! But that depends on your region's soil condition.If you have course grade sandy soil which is not tight but loose then just dig a hole the size of a tennis ball 'can',that will do.

But if your region is clayee soil then the pit should be one feet by feet and also one feet deep.And when filling this pit,kindly do it with sandy soil and not the same clayee soil.once the leaf sprouts you can add dead leaf mulch or humas as top soil dressing.

And in case if you have rocky soil or gravel grade then you will have to double the size of that pit to 2 feet by 2 feet and 2 feet deep.And while filling same course grade soil is much desire.Once the palm begins to like your climate and the soil then the palm will begin to move.

Each of the B.F palms can sustain thenselves.Even fertz,mannure or watering is not required for it.I would call this borassus & our sylversteris palm as bullet proof palm ideally suited for tropical kind of climate having heavy coastal influence with high humidity.

So if your area is expereinecing humidity less than 30% then you will have to water it regularly till it puts out a hardened trunk.This is to just aggrivate its grouth rate !

And watering is need only in the summers,once established.

Lots of love,

kris :)

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Wai`anae Steve

Thanks Kris for the seeds. They sure were fresh. I have 5 sprouted out of 8. Here is a picture story:

Borassus Flabellifer

Now I wait, and wait, and wait.......

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Kris

Dear Steve :)

First let me thank you for the visuals & update...fentastic work and the stills have all come out well and that too being presented in big resolution and i love it ! :drool:

Lets pray that most of the seeds do grow up into beautiful borassus in years to come.

Since tropical & equitorial climate is perfectly okay for these palms.

All the best & happy growing,

Lots of love,

kris :)

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Peter Pacific

Hello Kris and all Palmyra lovers! I was out in the yard and couldn't believe the development in my Borassus seeds!!!! Nineteen days since my last post and they already had roots about 12 inches long so I put them into the ground in a place that hopefully will not have to be disturbed. I now have 8 Borassus flabellifers in my garden, to make sure I have male and female in nine years, and have kept a couple for a couple of friends. Here are some shots of the seeds and my guys, Willie, Panky and Juan Carlos sharing my excitement! Here is my report from the box where they were placed after germination to their new permanent location. I hope you like the photos, Peter

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