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"Super-size" spears

quaman58

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quaman58 Grand Master

quaman58

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Hey all,

I've got two palms opening leaves this week--Caryota gigas & Dypsis lanceolata. It occurred to me how both species throw enormous new leaves, at least in relation to their size. Every new leaf is 20% larger than the last one, and seems to double the size of the plant once it opens. Anyone have other good examples of palms that do this?

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Bret

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Love pics of your lanceolota Bret. That is a nice one you got.

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San Marcos CA

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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Many palms will do that.

If they're in bodacious good health, they'll rip and roar.

Nice pix!

dave

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epicure3 Grand Master

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I don't have a current picture but I have a chambeyronia that is about 10 months pregnant with a new frond. It is about 6 feet tall. The tallest spear that I have ever seen. I will try and get a pic to show. I keep expecting it to explode it's so big. I hope it doesn't take out the neighboring palm and foliage. Maybe it's a javelin in disguise.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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DoomsDave Grand Master

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(epicure3 @ Oct. 03 2006,23:25)

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I don't have a current picture but I have a chambeyronia that is about 10 months pregnant with a new frond. It is about 6 feet tall. The tallest spear that I have ever seen. I will try and get a pic to show. I keep expecting it to explode it's so big. I hope it doesn't take out the neighboring palm and foliage. Maybe it's a javelin in disguise.

Oh!

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God!

(Atheists!  Come help me!)

I'm braced in the big Swooney . . . .

dave

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epicure3 Grand Master

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(Dave from So-Cal @ Oct. 03 2006,23:38)

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(epicure3 @ Oct. 03 2006,23:25)

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I don't have a current picture but I have a chambeyronia that is about 10 months pregnant with a new frond. It is about 6 feet tall. The tallest spear that I have ever seen. I will try and get a pic to show. I keep expecting it to explode it's so big. I hope it doesn't take out the neighboring palm and foliage. Maybe it's a javelin in disguise.

Oh!

Dear!

God!

(Atheists!  Come help me!)

I'm braced in the big Swooney . . . .

dave

Shakespeare couldn't have said it better himself. Unless you are............nah! Couldn't be.

Coastal San Diego, California

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Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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Walter John Grand Master

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My Dypsis leptocheilos always has an lengthy spear, so does the Dictyosperma album. I'd say one of my Archo cunninghamianas (bangalows) would have produced the longest spear so far though.

Good thread, I'm curious, I suppose Raphias would win out.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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redant Grand Master

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Attalea's have massive spears. I have 3 now that I hope to one day witness the unveiling of one of those fronds.

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Jupiter FL

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(Wal @ Oct. 03 2006,22:31)

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My Dypsis leptocheilos always has an lengthy spear, so does the Dictyosperma album. I'd say one of my Archo cunninghamianas (bangalows) would have produced the longest spear so far though.

Good thread, I'm curious, I suppose Raphias would win out.

Like Wal, my teddy bear has super long spears before opening.  It continues to grow long after you expect it to open.  It just keeps going.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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epicure3 Grand Master

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Here's that supsersize me spear on one of my chambeyronias and also a rather tall one on a veitchia.

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Coastal San Diego, California

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warm summer/mild winter

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epicure3 Grand Master

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(Ken Johnson @ Oct. 04 2006,18:24)

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This Borassus had one before I cut it off for transplant!

That is known as the "Bobbitt" cut.

Coastal San Diego, California

Z10b

Dry summer subtropical/Mediterranean

warm summer/mild winter

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The biggest spear I recall seeing was a Caryota Urens that was about 60 feet (20 m) tall and that spear was MASSIVE, about 20 feet tall, and as fat around as my waist at the time, about 34 inches (1 m), and, like my bod, covered with hair.  

Impressive!  (The spear.)

A fellow (I assume it's a he . . . ) down the road in nearby west La La Ha Ha has some C. gigas in his yard that produces spears that are about 20 feet long, but not as massive as C. urens.

But much hairier . . .

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One of my palms that defintiely has super size spears is my Rhopalostylis baueri.  It has only grown about 5 new fronds in the last 2 years, but has gone from a 1 metre (3.3 feet) palm to a 3 metre (10 feet) palm with the last new spear over 2 metres (6.6 feet) tall, and this palm does not even look close to trunking.

Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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Don Little Experienced

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hello everyone,

This is my first post on palm talk and this topic caught my eye.  I cant imagine any spear being more massive than a c. gigas especialy since the Fronds can be 20' long and almost as wide.  In my opinion much more massive than a c. urens.  I have a gigas that I planted 3 years ago as a fifteen gal and its throwing eight to nine foot spears (the third one since spring should be opening up soon and just before it does I can post of pic).  My urens which I planted maybe 15 months ago from a 15 gal while a ridiculously fast grower, its fronds pale in comparison.  Chamby's spear are also quite large.  My hookeri which has not yet begin to trunk but soon I hope is throwing spears around 8' ft long (One in process of opening now and will try and post a pic tommorrow)

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

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I tried this once already but will try it again.  Here is a picture of my Cham hookeri.  The spear that is opening up is 8' and the palm itself has not yet begin to trunk yet.  The heat that we had this year set my palms on some serious spurts. This is the second frond that has opened this summer the last one being towards the latter half of July when he had that crazy heat wave

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

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Don Little Experienced

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I'm going to get a picture as soon as I learn to post them, someday maybe

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

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quaman58 Grand Master

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Don,

I had a bit of trouble, at least on the old forum, with posting pics. I think it was a sizing issue. Since then I've used Photobucket. It's free. Once I post it to that, I just "copy and paste" the "img" line onto my post. (The bottom line beneath the photo on your Photobucket image) Hope this helps,

Bret

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Don Little Experienced

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Thanks Bret I'll try it later, maybe this time I can get it right.

Don

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

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Caryota obtusa (a.k.a. C. gigas) definitely have very impressive spears, and so do Attaleas, but Raphia farinifera logically would have the most impressive ones, since this is the palm with the longest frond of any palm (up to 55 ft or so). The problem is that the new spear is sort of hidden in among all the other fronds and they have these little unfriendly spines....so, bottom line: no photo!

Even though this is nowhere near the size of the above palms, this Dypsis bejofo may have the most impressive spear of any Dypsis palm. Because of light conditions only part of it is visible, but the whole spear is more than 20 ft tall.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Now thats a massive spear, but I would love to see the spear of the raphia

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

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My Caryota spears always impress me. I wouldn't like to be impaled on one...

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Daryl.

Gold Coast, Queensland Latitude 28S. Mild, Humid Subtropical climate. Rainfall - not consistent enough!

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Don Little Experienced

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Picture021.jpgOk I finaly got how to do this image posting thing.  Here is a picture of an 8 1/2 ft spear opening up on my Chambeyronia Hookeri. As you can see the palm itself has not yet began to trunk but will soon I hope but still the spear is large in relation to the size of the palm.

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And here is a picture of my caryota gigas with an eight foot spear that has atleast another foot or more before it opens up.

Don_L    Rancho CUCAMONGA (yes it does exist) 40 min due east of Los Angeles

             USDA Zone 10a

July Averages: Hi 95F, Low 62F

Jan Averages: Hi 68F, Low 45F

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