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[Identification] Dypsis?


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Hi Franck and welcome! That's an interesting palm you've got there. I thought Dypsis cabadae at first but it's not dark enough in the crownshaft and it's got that black flecking on it. Hmmmm, I'm gonna say Dypsis lanceolata because of the color in the spear and the wide leaflets. That black flecking is interesting though. Thanks for the picture. I'm sure someone will have another idea of what it might be.

Edit: Might be Dypsis sp. 'Mayotte' too.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Looks like Dypsis santelucei Franck. Wait a minute, that end leaflet looks too fat for him. :mellow:

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Wal,

While I agree it has some resemblance to saintlucei, particularly the flecks on the stem, there's not way that's saintlucei. The leaflets are completely different. Franck, what does the leaf underside look like? D saintlucei has a bluish/whitish powder on the leaflet undersides.

Matty, I've never seen that black speckling on a lanceolata. What does Dypsis sp. mayotte look like when it's young? It seems like it's in the pembana/lanceolata/mayotte group, but it doesn't exactly match any of the ones I've seen. Although I think a saw a mystery palm of Bill's that might be the same thing.

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

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I've seen 14 different versions of mayotte :lol:

I'm leaning santelucei still, but not totally convinced.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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My initial thought was D. madagascarensis.

But if it has the slight blue/silver tinge to the undersides of the leaves ( as Matt SD mentioned) then St. Luce for sure. But most of my St. Luce have a very dark (almost black) new spear.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

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I'm with Dean, I think it may be D madagascariensis presuming that the undersides of the leaves are'nt silver/blue.

Matt

Northern

New South Wales

Australia

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Ohhh, good one! Definately not D. saint lucei, but the D. madagascarensis fits. It's not plumose yet so that threw me.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Hello Franck,

Welcome to the IPS Forum! We love Dypsis mysteries, but doesn't necessarily mean we're able to solve them! :lol:

I'd be interested in a photo of the entire palm. I have three "mystery Dypsis" that look very similar to yours. Below is a photo. I should add that they don't have quite as much color on the stem now as they did when I took the photo a couple of months ago. And I'm convinced these are not D. madagascariensis, saintelucei OR sp. Mayotte. I posted this photo some time ago, and I believe someone suggested D. cabadae, which I'm sure is incorrect as well. All 3 are still single trunked palms.

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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Dypsis sp. 'Mad Saints' :blink:

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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The base of the trunk suggests madagascariensis too, and if there's no black spear she ain't saintelucei.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Hi and thank you all for your answers :)

The back of the leaf is the same color of the front, same green. It looks like D. madagascariensis, right. Maybe D. baronii? I'll try to catch another picture of the full palm. Moreover, these pictures been taken with my cellular... so bad quality :/

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Is this coincidence or what, Franck?

I just received yesterday from La Reunion(Thierry Alberto) the same palm labeled Dypsis pinnatifrons.

That's not what it is methinks...anticipating the outcome of this ID spiel :rolleyes:

Some pix of my plant

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Charles Wychgel

Algarve/Portugal

Sunset zone 24

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Charles wow it looks like the one i posted above! Hmmm well maybe it's a pinatifrons then? Pinatifrons or not, it is a Dypsis I don't have in my collection yet lol

Franck did you get it from the same source as I?

I looked at this thread http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...hl=pinnatifrons

and think it is not pinnatifrons

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Charles Wychgel

Algarve/Portugal

Sunset zone 24

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A friend hinted it may be Dypsis sp. 'Laffa'

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Group,

I agree it is not saintlucei, pinnatifrons, cabadae, or the others (as Bo mentioned). It's been a while since I've seen "laffa", so I haven't seen a recent plant for comparison. MattyB, the leaves are reminiscent of lanceolata, but the trunk in wrong.

Phil

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I'd be interested in a photo of the entire palm. I have three "mystery Dypsis" that look very similar to yours. Below is a photo. I should add that they don't have quite as much color on the stem now as they did when I took the photo a couple of months ago. And I'm convinced these are not D. madagascariensis, saintelucei OR sp. Mayotte. I posted this photo some time ago, and I believe someone suggested D. cabadae, which I'm sure is incorrect as well.

Very dark petioles on your plants Bo, or is it the photo?

I just hope it is NOT D.madagascariensis, as I have already three of them.

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Charles Wychgel

Algarve/Portugal

Sunset zone 24

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Well Charles, I don't think it's a D.madagascariensis. Yes it was at Jardin Naturel, in situ, i compared young D.mada and this one, and they were different. I will try to have a pic asap.

Merci Franck

I searched the forum for Dypsis"laffa" and came to this thread in 2006 http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?sh...amp;#entry10203

Trinidad Bob please chime in as your plant looks similar.

Some screenshots from this thread

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Charles Wychgel

Algarve/Portugal

Sunset zone 24

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Hmmm, it does look like a few things I have around here..

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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What does Dypsis sp. mayotte look like when it's young? It seems like it's in the pembana/lanceolata/mayotte group, but it doesn't exactly match any of the ones I've seen. Although I think a saw a mystery palm of Bill's that might be the same thing.

Matt

I have a young palm of Mayotte:

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It is different from the "mysterious" palm, leaves of the Mayotte one are brighter.

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