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SoTropiCal Ben

Hi guys, I'm one of those "occasional readers" to Palm Talk, but none-the-less, still a Palm Lover. I see how long and of importance this post is so I decided to give my .02 as well. I'm going to have to upload a photo of a seedling I have in my collection that hopefully someone could ID. I'm not saying it's the "Elusive, Anointed" but I just want to know if it's a curly dypsis or "you never know" the Elusive. I thought it was worth the time. I'll upload the photo later today or tomorrow. Keep a look out.

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joe_OC

So I have to ask...What are the tell-tale characteristics/ trade marks of this palm? How can you tell from a seedling if it is "white stem" or "big curly" or "prestoniana"?

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BS Man about Palms
So I have to ask...What are the tell-tale characteristics/ trade marks of this palm? How can you tell from a seedling if it is "white stem" or "big curly" or "prestoniana"?

At this point I would just lay odds its a Prestoniana/big curly. (yep, you saw it here.)

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BS Man about Palms

Having seen Mardys again today, I thought about this thread again. I will add that Mardy has noticed that the palm has a definite tristichous growth habit. The newest leaves open just barely above the others with a slight rotation. It is a beautiful palm, and I wish it wasn't so rare.

Jeff- Did you ever get to talk to John D?

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MattyB

I just looked at the pics again. I'm not that impressed by this palm. Looks like several others in the complex. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful, but not worth all the fuss.

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Kim
I just looked at the pics again. I'm not that impressed by this palm. Looks like several others in the complex. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful, but not worth all the fuss.

Perhaps the recession has brought us all down to earth. It's a nice palm, but there are many, many nice palms in the world, and probably a few not yet discovered. I will stick to my pledge of $200 if anything develops. However, time has shown the palm is not worth anywhere near what sellers were asking, else it would have sold. Even with a price adjusted downward to reflect reality, I expect that palm is doomed. (Sniff :crying: ) Cue: les sanglots longs des violons.. :violin::violin:

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Jeff Searle

So...how's the 3 prestoniana's doing out there these days? :)

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gsn

That would have been one very EXPENSIVE prestoniana at $50,000, little lone 5 million!

Those prices make Bills' prestoniana a bargain! :)

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BS Man about Palms
So...how's the 3 prestoniana's doing out there these days? :)

Tell you what Jeff. You convince one of the 3 owners that all they have is a prestoniana, and will dig it up and have it alive in a pot (growing) and I'll give them $5,000. for one of those 4 palms!!! :P:blink:

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LJG
That would have been one very EXPENSIVE prestoniana at $50,000, little lone 5 million!

Those prices make Bills' prestoniana a bargain! :)

Hey Scott, thanks for the ID. Can you tell us how you came to the conclusion it is a Prestoniana? Thanks buddy.

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BS Man about Palms

Calm down Len. Its OK. Really. We've seen what very few folks have. All 4. :D

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Jeff Searle
That would have been one very EXPENSIVE prestoniana at $50,000, little lone 5 million!

Those prices make Bills' prestoniana a bargain! :)

Hey Scott, thanks for the ID. Can you tell us how you came to the conclusion it is a Prestoniana? Thanks buddy.

Len,

Wait one minute! I should get the full credit on this one, shouldn't I? Thought I would stir it up a little during the holiiiidays.

Wait....it does resemble a canaliculata also. Anyone care to update some pictures?

BTW......how's the wife and kids? :)

Jeff

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gsn
That would have been one very EXPENSIVE prestoniana at $50,000, little lone 5 million!

Those prices make Bills' prestoniana a bargain! :)

Hey Scott, thanks for the ID. Can you tell us how you came to the conclusion it is a Prestoniana? Thanks buddy.

Len,

I "concluded its inclusion" in the prestonianna complex based on the posts of several forum members familiar with this palm, one of which started this thread!!! Your welcome buddy! :winkie:

At this point I would just lay odds its a Prestoniana/big curly. (yep, you saw it here.)

I just looked at the pics again. I'm not that impressed by this palm. Looks like several others in the complex. Don't get me wrong, it's beautiful, but not worth all the fuss.

But mainly I was just having a little FUN, like Jeff !!! :)

So...how's the 3 prestoniana's doing out there these days? :)
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LJG
Len,

I "concluded its inclusion" in the prestonianna complex based on the posts of several forum members familiar with this palm, one of which started this thread!!! Your welcome buddy! :winkie:

Ahh. So you do listen to others. To bad in this case it is incorrect including Bill's assessment as he will freely admit. Thanks for joining us in Dypsis discussion by the way Scott. :winkie:

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LJG
That would have been one very EXPENSIVE prestoniana at $50,000, little lone 5 million!

Those prices make Bills' prestoniana a bargain! :)

Hey Scott, thanks for the ID. Can you tell us how you came to the conclusion it is a Prestoniana? Thanks buddy.

Len,

Wait one minute! I should get the full credit on this one, shouldn't I? Thought I would stir it up a little during the holiiiidays.

Wait....it does resemble a canaliculata also. Anyone care to update some pictures?

BTW......how's the wife and kids? :)

Jeff

I know you were joking since you can at least ID palms :)

Trying to make it out for your sale in Spring. I have a business trip to VA then I figure a short little flight south might be nice.

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Gtlevine

I saw a photo of White Stem in habitat, definately not a Prestoniana or in that complex.

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BS Man about Palms
So I have to ask...What are the tell-tale characteristics/ trade marks of this palm? How can you tell from a seedling if it is "white stem" or "big curly" or "prestoniana"?

At this point I would just lay odds its a Prestoniana/big curly. (yep, you saw it here.)

Sorry- But this reply is "taken out of context". What I was trying to imply is NOT that the palm I mentioned is a "Prestoniana/big curly", BUT that the likelihood of you looking at seedling trying to decide if its D. "white stem". That seedling is MOST likely to be a " Prestoniana/big curly". (The last part in parenthesis was to imply I had "given in" to the idea that Big Curley was prestoniana.)

C'mon. I started this thread, I know its NOT like the rest. I could have typed my reply better, but I was thinking about "new seedlings" in that post, NOT the 4 mentioned here. They most assuredly ARE NOT D. prestoniana.

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MattyB

Gary, any chance of posting a habitat pic of the palm in question?

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neoflora

Mardy has the photo. I think it will get posted!

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LJG
Gary, any chance of posting a habitat pic of the palm in question?

Picture was taken from distance and at dusk. Won't help other then show it is tristichous.

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tikitiki

Is seems like the same guy that took the pics of big foot took the pics of this palm.

Gary, any chance of posting a habitat pic of the palm in question?

Picture was taken from distance and at dusk. Won't help other then show it is tristichous.

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gsn
Is seems like the same guy that took the pics of big foot took the pics of this palm.

Gary, any chance of posting a habitat pic of the palm in question?

Picture was taken from distance and at dusk. Won't help other then show it is tristichous.

I would tend to agree , with one caveate... the guy who took BigFoots' pic wasn't able to get underneath him, or close enough to collect hair (SEED) samples!

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BS Man about Palms

You know, with the weather in So Flo this past week, it brings up why I was not a fan of getting one of these to the Fairchild versus Hawaii. Anyone know how the Fairchild has fared so far?

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DoomsDave
You know, with the weather in So Flo this past week, it brings up why I was not a fan of getting one of these to the Fairchild versus Hawaii. Anyone know how the Fairchild has fared so far?

You ask!

And you shall receive, Sire.

[WARNING: THIS MAY BE DISCONCERTING TO SOME VIEWERS!]

Icy-weeds-at-dawnWeb.jpg

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Lowey
You know, with the weather in So Flo this past week, it brings up why I was not a fan of getting one of these to the Fairchild versus Hawaii. Anyone know how the Fairchild has fared so far?

Bill,

If any of the fantastic four have lost their specimens, then the world is just that bit worse off :(

Ps Bill Beatie is going back to Mad soon, I hope he finds one in habitat and brings back some seed, either way He will SHARE what he finds with those who are seriuos about palms.

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BS Man about Palms
You know, with the weather in So Flo this past week, it brings up why I was not a fan of getting one of these to the Fairchild versus Hawaii. Anyone know how the Fairchild has fared so far?

Bill,

If any of the fantastic four have lost their specimens, then the world is just that bit worse off :(

Ps Bill Beatie is going back to Mad soon, I hope he finds one in habitat and brings back some seed, either way He will SHARE what he finds with those who are seriuos about palms.

Just to clarify Bruce if you missed at first. When first found LOTS of plants were for sale and "around" at first. Its just a lot of people were still learning "big Dypsis" care and Mardy thought he could go back for more.

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Jeff Searle
You know, with the weather in So Flo this past week, it brings up why I was not a fan of getting one of these to the Fairchild versus Hawaii. Anyone know how the Fairchild has fared so far?

You ask!

And you shall receive, Sire.

[WARNING: THIS MAY BE DISCONCERTING TO SOME VIEWERS!]

Icy-weeds-at-dawnWeb.jpg

Dave,

Do I understand you that this picture was recently taken in Fairchild Gardens? I don't recognize the area if so.

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DoomsDave
You know, with the weather in So Flo this past week, it brings up why I was not a fan of getting one of these to the Fairchild versus Hawaii. Anyone know how the Fairchild has fared so far?

You ask!

And you shall receive, Sire.

[WARNING: THIS MAY BE DISCONCERTING TO SOME VIEWERS!]

Icy-weeds-at-dawnWeb.jpg

Dave,

Do I understand you that this picture was recently taken in Fairchild Gardens? I don't recognize the area if so.

Excellent question!

I don't recog the area, either. But it was on their website, so . . . .

But, dunno fer-sure . . . . :huh:

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Lowey
You know, with the weather in So Flo this past week, it brings up why I was not a fan of getting one of these to the Fairchild versus Hawaii. Anyone know how the Fairchild has fared so far?

Bill,

If any of the fantastic four have lost their specimens, then the world is just that bit worse off :(

Ps Bill Beatie is going back to Mad soon, I hope he finds one in habitat and brings back some seed, either way He will SHARE what he finds with those who are seriuos about palms.

Just to clarify Bruce if you missed at first. When first found LOTS of plants were for sale and "around" at first. Its just a lot of people were still learning "big Dypsis" care and Mardy thought he could go back for more.

Sorry Bill.

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Kim
You know, with the weather in So Flo this past week, it brings up why I was not a fan of getting one of these to the Fairchild versus Hawaii. Anyone know how the Fairchild has fared so far?

You ask!

And you shall receive, Sire.

[WARNING: THIS MAY BE DISCONCERTING TO SOME VIEWERS!]

Icy-weeds-at-dawnWeb.jpg

Dave,

Do I understand you that this picture was recently taken in Fairchild Gardens? I don't recognize the area if so.

Excellent question!

I don't recog the area, either. But it was on their website, so . . . .

But, dunno fer-sure . . . . :huh:

This aroused my curiosity, so I visited the Fairchild web site. The photo is of Fairchild Farms -- those are mango trees with frost on the weeds below. Richard Campbell, curator of fruit, has a blog about frost watch on the farms, and from what I read, they had temps in the low 30's for six nights -- and some of these were 33 and 35F, not so bad by California standards. (Not much discussion about palms.) You can read all about it here: http://www.fairchildgarden.org/livingcolle...Fairchild-Farm/

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BS Man about Palms

I think I MAY have something interesting to add on this thread. There MAY be another one in Florida. I went to a garden this afternoon (snuck out of Jeffs) and saw a palm that Christian thought may be one of these. (That was mentioned to me in an off-hand way AFTER I had taken an interest in it. )The more I looked the less sure I was as which or what palm it is. I took a lot of pictures and will compare it to many pix I have of the few true sp. white stems at home.

If it is one, This is GREAT news. It is not far from the Fairchild. Also, it was not a "recent" palm. The owner bought it from an older seller at one the Palm shows here that just had that one type palm among the others, and they had had it for a long time. (8-10 years?)

If I had my camera cables I would post a couple pics.

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Tyrone

Pictures, people, pictures!!!!!!! Not just words. I'm getting sick of reading!!!! :)

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BS Man about Palms

I took some pix of Doc Mardys D. White Stem today and its showing white!!! I've decided to start a new thread because most won't read a thread this long.

(I'll just have to put a link to this thread for all the people that think they have one. ;) )

PS- still not sure about the recent possible one in FL. Can't rule it out.

I'll probably start in a couple days as I have approval from all parties, so I'll post ALL my pix. (probably 40-50)

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peachy

I am just going to say that if I had a palm so rare as this seems to be and it was surviving at my place, then I would keep it. Maybe if its survival wasnt assured then it may go elsewhere for posterity. When someone has put in the research and time, or even if they just fluked it...it belongs to them, if they can recoup some of their costs by selling it, good for them. Who is to say what is a fair price. I know I would have to be bribed considerably to part with a species so rare. Why give it away and risk someone that you dont like getting some seeds ? :D

Peachy

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Shon

Just a tease is all you are Sanford.

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palmcurry

Give up the pictures! Lets see some white stem! (Dypsis species is what I mean....geeez c'mon people)

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Mr Rare

a few photos

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BS Man about Palms

By the way, The So Cal tour will be at Mardy's on July 17th. If not the indoor one, at least the outdoor one will be available to be seen.

Be there!

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Moose

By the way, The So Cal tour will be at Mardy's on July 17th. If not the indoor one, at least the outdoor one will be available to be seen.

Be there!

Bill - Jeff Searle has about 100 of the "white stem" Dypsis in all different sizes.

He kept them hidden when you visited. blink.gif

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BS Man about Palms

Ha-Ha I know better, plus, I went on hands and knees thru his nursery and house..

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