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MattyB

No Pivi. These seeds are about 4 times the size of Areca ipot.

Another clue: If it made tea for an elephant with this seed it wouldn't be very nice.

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Mark Heath

orania aruensis? I remember the name, but not the spelling! Sorry!

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MattyB

Nice Job Mark! It is Orania. I'm not positive of the species but it might be O. palindan. But since you said Orania and no one else did, you got it!

So what pic do you have for us? :drool:

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Mark Heath

Thanks Matty!

I'll have to take a pic and try and "Stump the chumps" myself! I have a cpl of Orania Ravakas that i sowed about 5 years ago. The seeds were very large but i remembered seeing a pic of Orania Areuinsis from the philipines that i tried to get and could'nt because they were very poisonous. The natives used them for darts, so that is why i took a shot at it w/ your seedling! Give me a little time to post my pic please!! I like this thread!!

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MattyB

Just a quick check on the monocot checklist and it appears that O. aruensis is not an accepted name but O. archboldiana is which is from New Guinea. O. palindan is from the Phillipines though.

checklist link

just fyi

M :blink: aybe I should have been more careful while handling the seeds.

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Mark Heath

this is a seedling of the Pheonix genus. mystery seedling I hope this link works!

I had seen the Orania Areuensis in an old palm book many years ago, it appears that the name has been changed!

The book was "Palms of the World".

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Mark Heath

mystery seedling

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Mark Heath

I give up guys!!! :rage: I set everything up on photobucket but i cant seem to put the link on here!!!!! I guess i'm going to have to default!! Sorry!!!

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Matt in SD

Alright, I knew Matty's last one anyways, but figured it would be cheating since he gave me one of his. Since Mark is having technical trouble...here is a newer seedlign I'm excited about:

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By the way Mark, if you have a photo in photobucket, just paste the link from the box next to your photo in photobucket that says "IMG Code" right into your message here.

Matt

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Gbarce

Areca Vestiaria - red or maroon leaf form????

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Mark Heath

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Thanks Matt! Sorry for the delay guys!

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Gbarce

Livistona Decipiens (now Livistona Decora) ????

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MattyB

Matt!!!! Oh you bastard! I hope that's not what I think it is. W/ a red leaf and everthing? That's nice. Am I out on this one because I know what it is?

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John in Andalucia

Matt,

I'll send you a seedling photo if you want to tell us! :mrlooney:

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Gbarce

What is it MattyB? Loxococcus Rupicola???

( I am referring to the one with the reddish leaf in post #50)

This is getting confusing.

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John in Andalucia

Mark, Can you throw in a few clues on yours please. Is it a Dypsis?

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Mark Heath

My seedling is of the Pheonix family. It's a rare one though. That's another clue. I can give another clue but that would make it too easy!!!

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John in Andalucia

I should have known as much. Then it has to be Phoenix theophrastii Cretan Date Palm right?

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Matt in SD

Gene is right on the one I posted: Loxococcos rupicola.

Matt

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John in Andalucia

Well done Gene!

Matt, that Loxococcos rupicola is nice :mrlooney:

O.K. I'm going to have to be diplomatic here, because there are 2 simultaneous guessing games going on. Matt jumped in ahead of Mark, Gene guessed Matt's right, and Mark's entry ID is unresolved, so to be fair I'm going to wipe the board clean and post a new photo. Sorry about that Gene, but it's fairer to Mark as well.

OK - Here's an emerging seedling photo. That's what this game is about. Guess it right, and you have to post one of your own - so don't guess if you can't post!

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Mark Heath

Very well, i guess i can tell what the mystery seedling was. Pheonix Aucaulis. My next clue would've been that it's a clumping small variety of Pheonix.

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John in Andalucia
Very well, i guess i can tell what the mystery seedling was. Pheonix Aucaulis. My next clue would've been that it's a clumping small variety of Pheonix.

Well done Mark, you're a gentleman! A clue for the latest picture - It's understorey.

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Gbarce

Lexococos Rupicola was just a shot in the dark-- me luck schmuck on that one -- but I respect the game.

For this latest one I am guessing the Genus is Caryota and since you say its an understory palm the Species is either Zebrina or Ophiopellis????

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John in Andalucia

Oh you are good Gene! If you've ever grown either one, you should be able to tell from the seeds in the photo which it is. I won't ask you, because you could equally guess right, so it is - Caryota ophiopellis. The seeds are much rounder than the zebrinas, which have the hallmark flat side to them. Well most, anyway. Congrats! Your turn to post!

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Gbarce

I analysed it by looking at the leaves. At first i was guessing a Hyriestelle (which are mostly undertory palms) in particular the Cariosa species But I was thinking that the seeds of those were not that readily available. So the leaves looked like Fishtails too and the only small ones I know of that are considered understory palms are the Zebrina and Ophiopellis.

I am in the office now so I will post my seedling tonight when I get home.

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Gbarce

OK. Am still at work but I don't want to keep you guys waiting.

The leaves of this seedling I think are distinctive enough to make this a fun item to guess.

This will eventually be a fan palm.

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MattyB

Kerriodoxa elegans?

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Gbarce

Mattyb- Nope, not Kerriodoxa. This palm does not come from my side of the world and actually is closer to where you are. Its suppose to be common and likes to grow near bodies of water. I've read that the seeds take about a year to germinate.

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MattyB

A fan palm w/ bifid baby leaves w/ silvery undersides.....hmmmmmm. Maybe from South America????? Hmmmmmmmm

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MattyB

Mauritia flexuosa?

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Gbarce

Close but not quite just a little bit more mattyb.

Thats a clue in itself

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Gbarce

you are correct about this coming from South America

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MattyB

Mauritiella armata was gonna be my other guess.

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Gbarce

CONGRATULATIONS MATTYB !!!! That's the one.

OK what have you got for us???

oops the boss is here... :rage:

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MattyB

I never knew Mauritellia seedlings had such a silver underside. Great looking baby.

Ok, here's my next one.

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MattyB

Here's a close up on the seed and radicle habit. A bit of a clue.

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John in Andalucia

Livistona ....?

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Pivi

yes, livistona nitida or decipiens?

but hm...seed is a bit... don't know...just a guess

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Gbarce

I think its a Cuban palm and I am guessing that the genus is Copernicia and the species is Alba????

Wanna give us a hint?

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