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Butia eriospatha x B.microspadix:4 years later

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Alberto

I crossed my Butia eriospatha with the tiniest brazilian palm,the B.microspadix. It was succesfull and I swapped and gave seeds to a lot of palm enthousiasts. Exactly 3 years and 9 months ago I planted my first sprouted seed in a pot. Ten months later it showed the first windowed leave,what at the time i thought was fast.

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Alberto

Today I was astonished to see that one of my 5 plants will flower this year! Thats fast!After +- 3 years and 9 months it shows 6 spathas!Hybrid vigour!!!

As promissed I am keeping you informed and show you this photos.

This is the little palm with my 3 years and 4 months old son,Leonard:

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Alberto

Five spathas with brown tomentum and they are a little bigger then that from B. microspadix. I was wondering how big this palms would grow,how big the spathas etc....

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Alberto

More palms

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Alberto

Another palm:

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merrill

Hi, Alberto:

Many Thanks!  You have provided an absolutely fascinating pictorial narrative!  In my limited experience, I don't remember an intrageneric Butia hybrid showing as much hybrid vigor as you've shown here.  Please keep us informed.

merrll

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FRITO

very nice Alberto. Interesting to say the least!

Im growing capitata seedlings and they are slow. I still gont have pinnate leaves after 2 years.

your hybrids looks great!  keep up the good work.

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palmsrgreat

Good pics and nice update as you follow this palm!

Hopefully, you will end up with some good viable seed!

Best of Luck!

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Kris

Dear Alberto  :)

thanks for the visuals & updates ! and your kid & the palm are both terrefic !  :)

lots of love,

Kris  :)

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Eric in Orlando

Alberto,

Those are some nice specimens. I got 2 of the seeds you sent to germinate. Here is one;

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Alberto

Hi Eric,

Glad to see some seedling from the seeds that I sent. :)

This one ,with narrower leaflets, looks the same as one of my five palms.

In the begin the leaflets were much grayer ,like yours and turned more green now....

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PalmGuyWC

Alberto,

The hybrid you have created is truly a beauty and probably a first in the palm world. I love it's small size and the small tomentose covered spathes. For it to bloom in less than 4 years is incredable growth. It will be interesting to see what its prodgny will be, or do you plan to cross it with something else?

Thanks for the great pictures, and keep us appraised of it's progress.

Dick

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Alberto

(PalmGuyWC @ Mar. 18 2008,06:58)

QUOTE
It will be interesting to see what its prodgny will be, or do you plan to cross it with something else?

....;) and if I cross it with a queen palm to create a dwarf Butyagrus...???? :)

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Mark Heath

Now your talkin Alberto!!!  I would love to see that!!

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PalmGuyWC

Alberto,

Often times when a palm blooms for the first time no seed will set and it may take several bloomings before it will set seeds. You have enough spathes on that palm to try different pollens. I think it would be interesting to see if it will self pollinate, and produces viable seeds, but the Queen cross sounds interesting. Also maybe B. archeri would be a nice one to cross it with, as B. archeri is also a dwarf palm and it develops that nice silver color.

Good luck and please don't let any of those spathes go to waste.

Dick

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Alberto

(PalmGuyWC @ Mar. 20 2008,15:59)

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Alberto,

Often times when a palm blooms for the first time no seed will set and it may take several bloomings before it will set seeds. You have enough spathes on that palm to try different pollens. I think it would be interesting to see if it will self pollinate, and produces viable seeds, but the Queen cross sounds interesting. Also maybe B. archeri would be a nice one to cross it with, as B. archeri is also a dwarf palm and it develops that nice silver color.

Good luck and please don't let any of those spathes go to waste.

Dick

Yes Dick,I´m aware of the fact that the first spathes sometimes don´t form fruits. It happened to some of my Butias here....

   If I can put my hands on that pollen sp I´ll try them all! :laugh: And ...yes , you made me curious if it will self pollinate?

 Thanks!

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Alberto

Today I found an oddity on one of the spathes that was showing difficulties to open normally. I tried to help it open and saw that there were two spathes,one with light short tomentum inside the other with longer tomentum!!! Strange!

One inherited from B.microspadix and the other from B.eriospatha.... :P  :D  ???

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PalmGuyWC

Alberto,

How strange you mention a double spathe. When my Butia X Jubaea first started blooming, it would have a spathe within a spathe, but after the first couple of years it quit doing that. Now all the spathes are "normal." This must be a condition caused by hybridization.

Dick

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Alberto

Couldn't delete this pic. WRONG PHOTO!!!!

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Alberto
Alberto,

How strange you mention a double spathe. When my Butia X Jubaea first started blooming, it would have a spathe within a spathe, but after the first couple of years it quit doing that. Now all the spathes are "normal." This must be a condition caused by hybridization.

Dick

There formed a lot of inflorescences since the first one,and also seed setting.Look at this new inflorescence. I have pollen of Syarus coronata and S.oleracea. Which one would you try to pollenate it?

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Alberto

Detail:

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palmsrgreat

Thanks for the update Alberto, they look like they are doing very well. S. coronata would be my choice, but that is on looks alone, not any scientific reasoning they would cross easier.

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merrill

Hi, Alberto:

VERY interesting hybrids! It would be very interesting to cross it with Allagoptera arenaria.

Best Wishes,

merrill

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Mark Heath

I can't wait to see the results!! Keep up the good work and keep us posted!

IMO, I would try Syagrus. O pollen because they have a faster rate of growth and will inject more green into the

triple cross.

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PalmGuyWC

Alberto, I would definately cross your hybrid palm with Syagrus Romanzoffianum, and you might get a dwarf mule. Have you crossed B. microspadix with Syagrus? I would be carefull to keep all the hybrids labeled as they all look alike when their seedlings.

To you Butia fans: Are B. microspadix and eriospatha the only two that has rust tomentum on the ourside of the spathes?

Dick

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Alberto
To you Butia fans: Are B. microspadix and eriospatha the only two that has rust tomentum on the ourside of the spathes?

Dick

The only butias that I know that shows this rust tomentum on the spathes are this two....

Here un update of the hybrids. They are growing fast and a second plant is flowering;

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Alberto

Another 2 pplants;

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Alberto

Closer....bunch fruits and the rust collor spathe:

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PalmGuyWC

Alberto,

Thanks for the progress report and the great photos. Your B. E X M is truly a beautiful small hybrid. I love those rust colored spathes. They have grown and bloomed incredably fast. It's nice you can see your cute son and the hybrids grow up together.

Dick

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Exotic Life

That are very nice hybrids, keep up the good work! :)

Robbin

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Kris

Dear Alberto :)

Nice progress ! And i must say you have lots of patience... :) Keep up the good work of creating newer forms of butia. :greenthumb:

Love,

Kris :)

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freakypalmguy

Very nice Alberto, I enjoy watching the progress of your hybrids. I'm not sure if I caught it, but did you cross this with the Syagrus or did it self pollinate?

Matt

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Alberto

I´ve not tried to make Xbutiagrus with this hybrid butia yet.

Here some updated pics from today.

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Alberto

more

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Alberto

Beautifull spathas with thick red/brown tomentum and purplish/yellow flowers

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MAUSER

Hello.

I show them mine. Butia eriosphata x B. paraguayensis.

We are in winter and full of sphates. Anxiously awaiting the hybridization day.

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Alberto

Hello.

I show them mine. Butia eriosphata x B. paraguayensis.

We are in winter and full of sphates. Anxiously awaiting the hybridization day.

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Alberto

Mauser,beautifull little palm. It probably will grow bigger then mine hybrid. Interesting the intermediate amount of tomentum that your hybrid shows!

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MAUSER

Mauser,beautifull little palm. It probably will grow bigger then mine hybrid. Interesting the intermediate amount of tomentum that your hybrid shows!

Hello Alberto.

The palm looks great in the photos but is small. I have two sisters and two make lots of spathes with a beautiful red tomentum.

I hope he can hybridize easily have not tried yet.

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