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jdapalms

This is my Chambeyronia houailou in Hawaii. I have two others planted in Calif. one in San Clemente and the other at my Fallbrook nursery.

Anyone else growing these? Post your pictures.  

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Shon

That's a beauty Jerry! I have two that are no where near splitting leaves.

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BS Man about Palms

Looks like a robust Hookeri. Cool.

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surferjr

Here's mine..

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Jerry what's the big deal with the Houailou?  Is it really a mind blower as it gets bigger like the the Hedecepe, Clinostigma Savoryana or the Decipiens.  Mines 8 years old, opens one leaf a year...and given little pleasure  ???

Your looks a bit like my Chambeyronia (Hookeri) which I thinks smokes the Macro. :o

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jdapalms

Chambeyronia houailou looks a lot like hookeri when larger. I do not see to much difference. I have a larger hookeri that I will have to post a picture of when I return to Hawaii and you all can judge the differences if any.

One of the differences may be the cold hardiness the Chambeyronia houailou seems to take the cold better than the hookeri.

As far as being a beautiful palm I think that Chambeyronia rivals some of the best looking palms out there, of course this is my opinion.

Jerry

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surferjr

(jdapalms @ Mar. 10 2008,01:11)

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Chambeyronia houailou looks a lot like hookeri when larger. I do not see to much difference. I have a larger hookeri that I will have to post a picture of when I return to Hawaii and you all can judge the differences if any.

One of the differences may be the cold hardiness the Chambeyronia houailou seems to take the cold better than the hookeri.

As far as being a beautiful palm I think that Chambeyronia rivals some of the best looking palms out there, of course this is my opinion.

Jerry

Thanks Jerry!  

I thought I was crazy, but you cleared it up I am. :D  :D  :D

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bgl

These are definitelly good looking palms, but I have never seen one open up a new red frond. This is my largest one. Just started trunking late last year.

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bgl

And a smaller individual

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pogobob

here is my Chambeyronia houailou(s), quite possibly one of my new favorite palms in the garden. I see huge differences between these and hookeriis/macs. Much different leaf structure and petoile forms. I have three in the garden, they all grow great, and range about 10yrs in age from seed I sprouted in the past. I wish these palms would come around again!

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pogobob

here is my largest one, it's bigger and fatter since it's in a hotter spot

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JEFF from Trabuco Canyon CA

Nice Bob!  I would agree it is one of my favorites.

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Bruce in San Diego

Nice...they are so hard to get a hold of.

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Palm Guy

I think they are nice looking but mainly for the crownshaft feature not the red leaf. I've heard these are a cross between regular form of macrocarpa and the hookerii form. Only thing is the percentage of Houailous that open up red leaves is relatively small. I think Hookerii takes the cake for throwing red leaves consistently.

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surferjr
This is my Chambeyronia houailou in Hawaii. I have two others planted in Calif. one in San Clemente and the other at my Fallbrook nursery.

Anyone else growing these? Post your pictures.  

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Great looking tree Jerry,

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Here's a pic of one of the many that Pogobob has ....the standout feature of these jems of a palm is the blu like glow aka Hedyscepe Canterburyana or Clinostigma palm.... and thous of you who want a red leaf none on these beauty!

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MatNC

I will make you lie Clark about no colored new leaf on this one....

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surferjr
I will make you lie Clark about no colored new leaf on this one....

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Mat.

OK, but it like the orange on my Kogies.....very slit, and don't blink your eyes you might miss it! :rolleyes:

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palmcurry

Resurrection time for this thread.

Sw Bills' Chambey houailoa yesterday and got the bug for one. Pogo's is the biggest I've seen in person(it rocks) but I really dig the leaf forms on BS mans'. Are these things super slow as liners??

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JD in the OC

Bo, Here's a picture of your unicorn

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Carlo Morici

I am in love with this palm. Adults are supreme.

It is amazingly distinct from C.macrocarpa... As far as I understood, Chambeyronia sp. Koua (in English Koo-Ah) should be the right name as it is not native to Houailou.

We got one at the Palmetum in S Cruz de Tenerife, and I have one at my place. Both are growing very well, the one at my place goes better because it is a bit upland, while the P is quintessentially coastal. The one at the palmetum was partially uprooted by a strong windstorm last week. It has been straightened and it will hopefully recove.

Carlo

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John in Andalucia

I notice Floribunda have these new in stock. It's very tempting!

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PalmatierMeg

I am tempted as Chambeyronia macrocarpa does well for me. But is it true that the C. Houailou can't tolerate the heat/humidity of FL? My impression is that it is a high elevation palm that is more suited to a So. Cal. climate. Can anyone tell me if that is the case?

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Jeff Searle

I am tempted as Chambeyronia macrocarpa does well for me. But is it true that the C. Houailou can't tolerate the heat/humidity of FL? My impression is that it is a high elevation palm that is more suited to a So. Cal. climate. Can anyone tell me if that is the case?

Meg,

They do just fine here in south Florida.

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PalmatierMeg

I am tempted as Chambeyronia macrocarpa does well for me. But is it true that the C. Houailou can't tolerate the heat/humidity of FL? My impression is that it is a high elevation palm that is more suited to a So. Cal. climate. Can anyone tell me if that is the case?

Meg,

They do just fine here in south Florida.

Thanks, Jeff. Gotta get me one.

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Carlo Morici

They do just fine here in south Florida.

Do they grow them at FTBG or Montgomery?

Is there any tall specimens around in cultivation?

Carlo

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Carlo Morici

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Dypsisdean

This palm is a mystery for me. All the ones I have seen, and some are good size now, show fronds that are fairly upright and straight. Jeff Marcus' Garden Tour shows some tall ones. The palm above of Bo's is less so from most I have seen.

But I remember distinctly when this palm was presented in either the IPS or the PSSC Journal many years ago (10-15). It was the rave with it's entire juvenile leaf, and the recurved frond. In fact, I clearly remember the many photos of a palm with extremely recurved fronds. If I remember correctly, that was supposedly the trait that separated it from the C. macrocarpa. Mine appear to have absolutely no chance of recurving, yet they definitely had the entire leaf as a juvenile. So, what's up with that?

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Carlo Morici

Dean,

Adults are better than juveniles, with a compact crown of stiff, arching leaves and lots of yellow (sorry... "golden" hues.

I can guess that adult traits are defined once a specimen starts fruiting. Maybe Bo's specimens are growing among trees and they don't build arching leaves because they are still looking for light, coming from above.

Can anybody post a picture of a large one?

Are there any old plants at FTBG or Montgomery?

Carlo

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Dypsisdean

Carlo,

Here's one of the photos from Jeff's Garden Tour. And his commentary mentions the upright habit along with some other interesting info.

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Jeff Searle

They do just fine here in south Florida.

Do they grow them at FTBG or Montgomery?

Is there any tall specimens around in cultivation?

Carlo

That I don't know.

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Palmzilla

Dean,

It looks like Jeffs palm is in a lot of canopy? Maybe it will re-curve once it get above in the sun? I will have to get an updated shot on my dads biggest one, it looks quite a bit different than all the Hawaii ones.

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palmcurry

Dean,

Adults are better than juveniles, with a compact crown of stiff, arching leaves and lots of yellow (sorry... "golden" hues.

I can guess that adult traits are defined once a specimen starts fruiting. Maybe Bo's specimens are growing among trees and they don't build arching leaves because they are still looking for light, coming from above.

Can anybody post a picture of a large one?

Are there any old plants at FTBG or Montgomery?

Carlo

Here are some pics from a site everyone here knows(I know, shame on me)they are adults in NC, I believe, in full-sun. You can definitely see the a compact crown of stiff, arching leaves and lots of yellow.

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palmislandRandy

Dean,

Adults are better than juveniles, with a compact crown of stiff, arching leaves and lots of yellow (sorry... "golden" hues.

I can guess that adult traits are defined once a specimen starts fruiting. Maybe Bo's specimens are growing among trees and they don't build arching leaves because they are still looking for light, coming from above.

Can anybody post a picture of a large one?

Are there any old plants at FTBG or Montgomery?

Carlo

Here are some pics from a site everyone here knows(I know, shame on me)they are adults in NC, I believe, in full-sun. You can definitely see the a compact crown of stiff, arching leaves and lots of yellow.

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WOW! :mrlooney: Those are magnificent! Thanks for the pics.

Randy

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Palmzilla

Wow, those are some insane pics palmcurry, never scene those ones before. Here are a few shots of pogo's biggest one taken this morning, this is one of my favorite palms now

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JD in the OC

Looking good Braden.

Here is a pic I took of that palm in Sept. 2006 (to give everyone an idea of growth rate).

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Carlo Morici

:winkie: Thank you all - I learn more as I see more pictures of this plant in cultivation.

It looks like Jeffs palm is in a lot of canopy? Maybe it will re-curve once it get above in the sun?

I am sure you are right. It must be all about shade or sun.

Jeff Marcus' specimen looks to me a bit extreme with those upright leaves. Pogobob's palms are quite arching. The ones we grow in full sun build VERY recurved leaves, with the leaf tips scratching the ground. I believe it is the right way to grow it because it seems it loves direct full sun.

By the way - RPS still has some seeds. It was put on catalogue about 2 months ago.

Carlo

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PalmsZA

I must join this fan club too, one of my favourites of all time---ever.

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Carlo Morici

I must join this fan club too, one of my favourites of all time---ever.

Oooh! You will soon get the membership card of the "Koua Fan Club". Members have privileges. One kg of fresh seeds when membership is signed and then a free trip each year to visit them in habitat.

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Alberto

I must join this fan club too, one of my favourites of all time---ever.

Oooh! You will soon get the membership card of the "Koua Fan Club". Members have privileges. One kg of fresh seeds when membership is signed and then a free trip each year to visit them in habitat.

Carlo,I want to be member of the fan Club. Are you paying for our trips to habitat? You are a very generous guy!!:D

But, how is the cold hardiness of C.houailou compared to regular C.macrocarpa?

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ellidro

Pogo,

How much sun does yours get? I have a large 15g in a pot that im thinking of putting in 3/4 day sun. Right now in the pot it gets about 1/4 to 1/2 day sun and accclimated well.

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