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@Mr. Clark Welcome to PalmTalk! Because of where you are located, you can grow practically anything. That said, if you want to get the nursery "into the black" as quickly as possible, you'll want to get yourself a guaranteed revenue stream with stuff that can grow fast and wholesale just as fast to commercial and government customers. Residents also buy most of the palms below and many of them are outside of the typical "Phoenix/Syagrus/Washingtonia/Sabal/Butia" that wholesalers have relied on in the past. Roystonea regia (Royal Palm) and Cocos nucifera (Coconut Palm) are an easy sell to consumers. Down your way they are common, but Royals are increasingly being used here to replace the more disease-prone Syagrus romanzoffiana (Queen Palm) and Phoenix species. The aforementioned Beccariophoenix alfredii is increasing in popularity rapidly from Jacksonville down along I-95 and the entire I-4 corridor. Mules are the even-hardier pinnate palm for cooler areas. Our municipality plants both everywhere. A good family of palms to sell includes Veitchia arecina (Montgomery Palm), Adonidia merrillii (Christmas Palm), Wodyetia bifurcata (Foxtail Palm), and Carpentaria acuminata. Where you are located and in most of South Florida, any of these can grow anywhere. In Central Florida, Christmas Palms and Foxtails sell quickly for residential landscaping and hotels. Veitchia are more of a novelty here, whereas down your way, they line streets and are planted near buildings. Carpentaria is more of a dark horse of the family, but is a good palm for areas that require a Veitchia look with a smaller crown. If you hybridize Veitchia and Wodyetia, you'll get the highly-coveted "Foxy Lady" palm. Another good family of palms to include is Bismarckia nobilis (especially the silver variety) and at least Latania loddigesii (the Blue Latan Palm). Bismarckia is popular throughout almost the whole state and grows pretty fast once the root system is in place, and I've increasingly seen Blue Latans used in milder areas near me, like Winter Haven and Palmetto. Another easy seller is the Archontophoenix genus, especially Archontophoenix cunninghamiana and Archontophoenix alexandrae. Collectively, King Palms are very desirable and the supply is way lower than the demand. Archontophoenix cunninghamiana becomes viable somewhere around coastal JAX or St. Augustine. Archontophoenix alexandrae tends to do better a bit further south, but you'll still have a market for them in roughly 2/3 of the state. The Chambeyronia genus, which has now swallowed the Kentiopsis genus, has a lot of popular, chill-tolerant crownshaft palms you can sell to 2/3 of the state. The big sellers would be Chambeyronia macrocarpa (all varieties), Chambeyronia oliviformis, and Chambeyronia pyriformis. The Chrysalidocarpus (a.k.a. Dypsis that grow in Florida) genus tends to sell decent. Probably the most sold is Chrysalidocarpus lutescens, but Chrysalidocarpus decaryi probably isn't too far behind. Chrysalidocarpus leptocheilos, Chrysalidocarpus pembana, and Chrysalidocarpus lanceolata would sell better if they were more commonly available. These grow a bit more slowly than most of the other palms above. With the arrival of Lethal Bronzing in Florida, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the Livistona genus. In particular, Livistona decora is a prize for municipal planting here. Livistona nitida, Livistona mariae, Livistona australis, and Livistona chinensis are also planted frequently. These also tend to reach mature size at a later time than some of the tropical and subtropical options above. This list is a bit myopic since these are primarily what is bought along the I-4 corridor and areas either further south or with similar microclimates along I-95, but it gives you a way to operate at a profit in a shorter amount of time and still provide a unique inventory to most of the peninsula.

I was noticing that my C. Lastelliana were putting out what looked like quad leaves compared to my Pembanas which are bifid. Today I noticed that they are actually tiny pinnate leaves. I have not seen palms produce a pinnate first leaf before. Is this normal?

I got more information from the nursery man, who planted this palm in November 2019. I inquired about the use of various fungicide's recommended by connoisseur, Steve Stern. None of these has been used on this specimen. That stated, it would probably help substantially if they were used. During this time frame, the minimum temperature recorded at PBIA was 37°F. Low 40°F (43F) temperatures nearly every year at the airport during this time frame. At all times, the median temperature well exceeded the necessary Koeppen temperature required for tropical rendering. In fact, most months median temperatures were closer to 70°F than the required 64.8°F. This palm is located at latitude, 26.93° north. It is in an area surrounded by water not far from the ocean. However, I would not describe it as "flourishing". It reminds me of the Newport Beach Coconut. The browning tips of the Palm are evident. This is definitely a very ticklish palm that requires close attention for success in southeast Florida.

If you are growing for profit, the common, easy care, fast growing stuff sells by volume. Most people just want the same easy stuff that grows with little effort. But if you are doing it as a fun hobby, the sky’s the limit. If I had a “for fun”, in zone 11 Florida, small nursery….. I’d grow stuff that I was interested in, was less common, and that I think would be good to see more of in my area. For me that would be Copernicia, Coccothrinax, Pseudophoenix, Serenoa, Thrinax, Leucothrinax, Lantania, Chambeyronia, Satakentia, Dictyosperma, Beccariophoenix, Allagopterra, a few Dypsis/Chrysadidocarpus, Coonties and a couple other Cycads, and my favorite less common crotons and bromeliads. These would be things that grow well in the area without ICU-level care, but are still interesting enough and eye catching.

My daughter and her husband have been doing landscape design and installation for a long time. She knows a lot about palms, she's my daughter lol. Most of her clients in very expensive areas are new here from up north. They know nothing about palms and generally go for the cheap common stuff. The rare exotic stuff just is a small market for palm nuts in general. I had talked Jeff S (forgot the last name) had his rain forest collection said he had to do other stuff like hedging and broms to turn a profit, exotic palms take to long and to few buyers, I had sold stuff online, rare stuff and people don't want to pay up for a slow growing palm that u put 5 years into,

Pretty surprised to so Licuala, Cocothrinax, and RedLatana at my local L👌👌👌s bigbox store in Brandon on Causeway get get yall one! I went for the Buccaneer i seen last week, its gone

All grown in my greenhouse but I keep them outside between april to october

My little Sommieria is growing stronger with each new leaf it will be preciously protected for winter with every trick in the book to see it lives through winter

This is what I’m getting at. When I say fast I’m talking number of fronds per year. Who wants to stare at a telephone pole and get a neck pain every time you want to enjoy the foliage? Plant queens if you want a palm that goes vertical real quick. Alfredii is the opposite. Just my 10 centavos…..

You're gonna need a drone to wrap it next winter.

here we go. New home. They said to water it every day, twice, morning and night. 15 min each We are in Nevada The palm (central part) is more then 10 ft high

Very cool garden and people! Heres a few photos I took.

Lucked up on eBay with some old PACSOA issues always a treat to read now all we have to do is convince the PACSOA to start printing them for there members increasing the society’s popularity spreading more vital information for the palms of the world bringing awareness to more plant enthusiast

You laugh but you know it's true! But the irony of the street names below LOL "FALLEN PALMS", "BURNING PALMS"😆 will be there in person soon, stay tuned. this was in cold west Houston btw

One special little chamaedorea the adscedans in my garden producing good amounts of seeds for me easy to grow and propagate bottom heating coco coir perlite mix 30 degrees Celsius around 3 months time some wonderful little palms when juvenile they are something else to look at on mass and quite different to adult palms also a easy one to hand pollinate just simply observe your male plants daily looking for pollen usually by just tapping the flower to see if any pollen comes out then you collect the pollen in bag and place it over the female tapping the bag to get the pollen dusting around but do it daily until you use all your pollen or ideally using a artist brush and lightly brushing the pollen on the female flowers I have a lot mature adscedans so a good supply of male pollen the flowering season last about 5 weeks with around 50 mature plants some plants don’t flower every year or if a lot of seed was harvested the prior season so sort of biannual I usually harvest them when the new flowers appear but a wonderful palm that is easy to grow and observe watching the life cycle of reproduction in Mother Nature in close proximity

Purchased a couple of Metallica champs for the garden they will be group planted I have some good specimens already in my garden but you can never have enough chamaedorea in the garden especially this beautiful little palm there wa# also two Caryota maxima in the order as well I also have two giant specimens in my garden so I know they grow well

This is the most it has ever grown this early . I know it's because I kept the incandescent lights on it with the blankets into April , and I forced it to grow faster . It is almost respectable and it's only April . I know many have seen this palm , but it is my baby and I have been so impressed with its growth . I say I'm in 7B but I'm actually a few hundred yards into 8A now . But I'm sure I'll have more 7B temps in the future . Sorry I don't have Shaylen modeling . Will This picture below was earlier when I just took off the blankets :

If you’re looking for a palm that grows vertical real quick go ahead and buy a queen palm from your local big box store. Beccariophoenix alfredii is a fast growing palm when one talks about fronds given per year. Sometimes palms that aren’t self-cleaning and grow vertically so quick can end up being expensive and problematic when it comes to maintenance.

They could be trimmed a smidge to make a mini skirt. 😆

I'd agree with the other comments on Sylvesters. They are getting wiped out here in Orlando now, and I'm about to remove an infected one in my front yard. Personally I'd avoid anything Phoenix, as it's not clear what other species are at severe risk. As far as other palms go, you could look at it as two categories: Easy sale "common" palms like Queens, Livistona Chinensis / Nitida / Decipiens / Saribus, Mules, Rhapis Excelsa "Lady Palms," Foxtails, some Dypsis/Chrysalidocarpus Lutescens, Bismarck, Fishtails, Pindos, Kings, Ptychosperma Elegans, etc. Those could be easily sold any time, but you wouldn't make much on them...they are more "commodity" palms that are grown by a LOT of nurseries. But it could make sense if you need a minimum acreage or sales volume to qualify for tax breaks. "Unusual" palms that may command higher individual prices, but are either slower growing or less in demand. Those are the sort of "collector" palms that we like here. In Zone 11 you could grow almost anything, and much faster than in zone 9 or 8. So you could grow Arenga Engleri, which commands biiig prices in Jacksonville. Or unusual tall palms like Arenga Pinnata or Attalea Cohune. Beccariophoenix Alfredii is another good one that should grow pretty quick in SFL. Any of the Copernicia would be good, as well as other interesting palms like Kerriodoxa Elegans, lots of options in the Licuala group, some of the "other" Syagrus like Schizophylla and "Coco Queen" Schizophylla x Romanzoffiana, etc. Many of these are "easy grows" if they don't see freezing temps, and could be shipped to Zone 10-9b areas easily. Overall maybe a mix of common and unusual is a good choice. But avoid Sylvestris.

It looks like there is some chance of rain near @flplantguy and my location, a little less chance for @SubTropicRay, and nothing but hot sun for @Looking Glass in the forecast for Monday. Lakeland (KLAL): Brooksville (KBKV): South Tampa (KTPF): Ft. Lauderdale (KFLL): The top couple inches of soil here are a bit dry where exposed, but a few inches down there is moisture available for the plants. The photo below is of some soil from an area I de-sodded as part of a regrade project last weekend. Notice the top is bone dry, but turning it over with a rake shows there is still moisture present:

Yes, very different. C gigas (now C obtusa) is a massive palm with a hugely chunky trunk. C maxima is still a large palm, but grows taller and thinner. C maxima (Indochina) was formerly known as C bacsonensis and is the smallest of the C maxima varieties and has more drooping fronds than the others.

"No skirt leads to dark hole" Just be sure to pick the right hole

Between the green leaves and fairly slim trunks they all look like mules or possibly ‘Jubutyagrus’ IMHO. Most Jubaea x Butia are heavier trunked even if F2 or F3 generation. F1s can also vary but here’s an extra thick specimen growing in FL:

A lil' Sunday color... Late season CA. Poppies, CA Buckwheat ( white flowers ), Senna covesii ( yellow, lower left ), Erythrostemon palmeri ( yellow / center ) and the yellow flare up of Parkinsonia florida lurking in the background on the lower right. Palms are obvious. ....And the next batch of seed viability trials.. Tossed in pots today: 🫰 Ceiba erianthos, FL. sourced. Sent back in 2018. Amourexia / Cochlospermum palmifidum. S.E. AZ sourced. Sent in '22 Bolusanthus speciosus, Tucson sourced. Sent in '18 or 19. Albizia sinaloensis, locally sourced last year. ( Not from mine.. Too small to start flowering ) Mimosa palmeri, Sonora Mex. sourced. Seed sent in '17 or 18. Mimosa xanti / now listed as M. tricephala xanti. Sourced in Baja. Seed sent in '17 or 18. Senna hirsuta v. glaberrima. From my own specimens. Sown to test first harvest overall viability.

Some late week color for ya' Eclipse day Sunflowers Who says you can't have big, " Tropical looking " leaves on something simple.. Today's short walk to check on a few things.. Neighbor's Barbados Cherry, and Fruiting Mulberry, Possibly Pakistan ..but fine if wrong on the cultivar. Euphorbia antisyphilitica Delonix regia, the " 'Hood Royal " just about ready to awaken. Seed trial from it starts soon. Some of the nicest " tended " Torch Glow Boug. specimens around.. What i hope to achieve w/ the ones planted between the house / neighbor's house. Picture the Guaiacum coulteri planted dead center there hovering up above a 3-ish ft living wall of this color, and you have the ideal outcome for that area. Ocotillo, by the Hospital. We'll discuss the nearby Saguaro soon. Honey Mesquite decked out in flowers and that glowing, Apple green new foliage.. ....Back at the " Lab ".... Dyckia rariflora gearing up. Six flower scrapes on the way so far. Dyckia choristaminea also deciding to flower this year. Released from the confines of a 1gal, into a wide 3gal today as well. Mini Tiger Stripe Punn' Kin, trial take #2.. Instead of starting in pots, decided to sow directly in the ground this year ..and start a hair earlier than last year. We'll see what happens this time around. Ipomoea longifolia awakening... Absolutely a big deal.It's twin should awaken shortly. Physalis ( native Ground Cherry ) sp. that popped up alongside Plumeria ctv. J105 last year. Aristiolocha watsonii that decided to pop up in w/ one of the other JJ Plumerias. As " Acacia Season " Fades, " Palo Verde Season " steps up to the plate to take some swings.. " Desert Willow Season " too.... About faded out but the strong " Pez Candy fragrance " from this Whitebush, Aloysia gratissima is still easily detectable as you approach it. Some tropical looking feathered friends, just for the heck of it.. Hangin out in the Sunflowers out front atm, completely un-phased by passing traffic. ..At least this kid. ..and a Goldfinch.. Always lots of color, even in the Desert

Well it's still pretty palmy. Westchase area today

Arenga pinnata if I recall correctly.

They are a pretty little palm, that's probably why you sold me 2 of them. (one outside, one inside) But now that I know where babies come from, how do you tell the boys from the girls ? Which leaf do I lift up to take a peek ? Peachy

Oh well they can plant it on my grave in that case Peachy (the old coffin dodger)

Your mix looks quite free draining I take it your containers have drain holes keep them outside under a awning to let them dry out there is light sunburn then there is burning to a crisp let them dry out if you suspect overwatering

C. montanus. I didn't have much hope that these would actually turn out to be the real thing, but the flowers are a good match.

I'll out myself as a former personal trainer previously certified by the ISSA (International Sports Sciences Association). If you want to get weight off fast, the first thing to address is your diet. It's hard to outrun your fork. In my past, I used to use 1800 calories as my cutting amount and stay on that total for about 2-3 months to get lean. After that, I'd stick between 2400-2800 for a maintenance period, minus holidays. Usually, the cutting phase would get done in the spring to get rid of the Thanksgiving and Christmas weight. You may want to consider changing your workout to train as fast (low rest periods) and as heavy as possible. The best way I've found to do this is to superset exercises that work opposing muscle groups to provide the first muscle group a chance to rest while the second is working, and make the first muscle group less able to oppose the second muscle group during the second exercise. Some good examples of supersets or alternating sets done in this manner: DB Bench Press + DB Bent Row OR Seated Pulley Row DB Shoulder Press + Pulldowns DB Curl + Triceps Pushdown Hammer Curl + Rope Triceps Pushdown EZ Bar Curl + Lying Triceps Press Crunches + Back Extensions DB Front Raise + DB Pullover DB Reverse Lateral + DB Incline Fly DB Side Lateral + DB Decline Fly Leg Extension + Leg Curl Consider it, and hope it works for you. Everyone's body is different.

@WSimpson probably an unpopular opinion when it comes to trachies but I'd leave the skirt, I think it looks good

I'm seeing new queens here and there. One day we'll start hating on them again for being over planted 😆 Today in west Houston

Welcome to PalmTalk. Would you like to share pictures of the nursery? I think that would be cool to see.

I really like the bifid Chamaedorea and the Metallica does not disappoint. Nice score! I have a few here and they seem to be quite resilient. I never planted them out in my garden because I wasn’t sure about cold tolerance . Now, they are so happy in their pots , I just left them as potted plants and move them about! I think they would be fine in the ground where I am . Harry

BAH

🎵 ....We've come a long, long way together. Through some cold times ...and some rain. I have to ....Celebrate you, baby.. I have to praise you like i should... 🎶 ....Some ~slightly~ adjusted lyrics from the wayy back machine to welcome in the second best time of year, esp. here in the Desert.. Randoms.. Phacelia ..crenulata ..Closer to being sure on the ID. Have others popping up elsewhere from seed i'd collected to compare these to when they start poppin'. Calliandra eriophylla Penstemon parryi Pretty sure there were Black Chinned Hummers checking out the taller parryi when peeking out the window this morning after awakening. P. superbus.. Differences obvious now, lol. Dogweed, ..or Gold Fields < Genus Lasthenia > ( No clue where they came from. Didn't order seed of... ) 2024 crop of Salvia coccinea already flowering.. ..................................The Globe Mallow Sisters..................... S. laxa ....Ready to go S. "... Not quite sure yet / Boyce Thompson / Picket Post area collection... " .....Almost ready to go S. coulteri ...On the way.. This specimen anyway. Other that popped up is bloomin. Lupinus sparsiflorus about to pop L. texanus.. Moving a bit faster now ..At least out by the sidewalk. ....Flowering by??? ....Mid March??? Senna covesii ...joining the party.. ....While the in ground Plumeria... ( Crossing my fingers this is the year for my special specimen ) ...Galactia wrightii ...Mealy Blue Sage ...Berlandiera lyrata and Aristiolochia fimbrata all awaken from their winter naps.. Ratibida columnifera too ..As usual, the over achiever between the plants out there is already just about ready to pop.. Other specimens, up closer to the house ( and currently in more shade ) aren't even budding yet. Some complain the desert is a stark and boring place devoid of much interest / options ...or that flowers are boring.. ...I look out the window and laugh, ...hysterically, at such narrow minded, dull, and squared " views".. Never a dull moment / lack of color, 99% of the year in this yard ...Except maybe during the worst part of: " Hell Season " Ha Ha. Welcome, ...to Spring...

I would agree with @Merlyn and @sonoranfans on this. With alfies, you're getting a palm tree that is very aesthetically pleasing and tropical looking even when it's smaller and isn't quite yet trunking. I bought one Sunday and spent less than $200 on it. Its crown is already quite large, with some of the largest fronds extending up probably 12-14' into the air. (I bought one in a 25 G pot that was outgrowing the pot and had roots growing out of the bottom. I'm hoping that it will be okay even if I may have had to cut a couple of roots to get it out.) I had a good, full-sun location in mind where I thought one could provide good shade and a tropical vibe. I'm very pleased with the purchase thus far. It is great to see it in my yard. I would definitely recommend them to anyone.

Keeping this thread alive. Here’s what I’m pretty sure is a S. brazoriensis in my neighborhood in Austin TX. There are many suspected offsprings of this one as well in neighboring yards. It seems to be multiplying.

The trunks on these beasts when they get some trunk going are incredible. I took a couple of pictures of MB Palms in Orlando's "showcase" alfrediis. Pictures don't even really do them justice.

almost 30 total minutes over 5 videos in the playlist, perfect for watching over a lunchtime. Enjoy palm brothers and sisters 🥰

Saw this nice Chrysalidocarpus onilahensis admiring its reflection in the water LOL

This is the IPS group moments ago.

Amazing presentation by Dr. Wolf! + Lyon Arboretum

Swamp Bloodwood / Corymbia ptychocarpa is stunning when in flower and the native parrots love it. This pictured very small tree was cut right back as it got too lanky due to shading, the shade creators have gone and abundant growth and flowers resume for the Swamp Bloodwood. These pics where taken in December when Swamp bloodwoods are in flower, I didn't post back then so posting today. Pete