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Another special show in the garden right next to the driveway you can’t beat them for the colour red and a leaf of that size

One special palm to have in the collection the rain has certainly helped with the new leaf putting on a show

My wife and I rented a 4-bedroom 3-bath home for 6 days west of San Antonio Tx. at Leakey Tx. and had a total of 10 family members join us. It had been quite a while since I have been under a dark sky. I noticed the summer milky way across the sky early one morning. The home backed up to the Frio "River" where we went kayaking. Wife: Below is an image of the eclipse near mid-totality. There was 100% semi-transparent high level cirrus cloud coverage and 95% mid-level opaque cumulus cloud coverage. There was a break in the cumulus coverage for a few seconds near mid-eclipse when this image was taken. 50mm diameter lens at f/4: Ed in Houston

Hello palme talkers. We just moved into to a new home a month ago that has multiple palms around the yard. The previous owner left the whole yard to fend for itself for many years. Besides the overgrowth in general, some palms are looking bedraggled. In particular a multi trunk palm, not taller than the eves, seems quite frazzled. I have laid down palm fertilizer at the base of the trunks. The pictures show the crown of the trunk which seems to be struggling , the other crowns are looking better. Now I am wondering if I should remove some dead stuff or just wait and see. Any ideas would be appreciated. I donnot know the name of the palm variety.

I got these oraniopsis from plumtree pocket nursery a few weeks ago they have quality rare palm and trees with some very unique stock all in quality condition so I thought why not plant one of the oraniopsis in the ground a slow growing palm this one will definitely be getting some water attention under irrigation and some loving care

All grown in my greenhouse but I keep them outside between april to october

Kinzy Jr. is correct in that Chapman Field has a whole grove of these in their collection, Keith Zimmerman @Zeeth has posted on this collection and may have a contact there, I don't know what the process is for procuring from USDA...but perhaps he could help you contact them; also you might try Montgomery in case they sell this in their seed auctions. When I lived in the Keys, I got mine directly from Dave Romney, at the time, just about THE authority on coconuts. He had a group of Fijis that were segregated from the other types...important because they apparently outcross very easily. His daughter, Carol, ran the nursery after his death and I believe I saw that someone said she had closed the business, so maybe a longshot, but you might try to contact her and see if she has any that she would let go of. Dave and Carol warned me that Fijis were very susceptible to being sold as this while actually being outcrosses, if the parent was not segregated in such a careful way. Beware that this is a very slow-growing coconut! And it is not for cooler/more marginal areas. If you get regular frost/cold damage you might look to other varieties, since this will be very slow to replace a crown. To me it has the basic squat-shuttlecock form of Ravenea rivularis, more or less, and at least during its first decade or two has well-nigh zero of the romantic aura of the coconut. And if you get one, it must have full sun...otherwise it will sit...and sit...and sit...mine took 11 years to yield ONE fruit, and it really only started growing after Irma destroyed everything around it, allowing it to enjoy that full sun.

Was watering everything and came across this. First flowers incoming on the roebelenii pair. Was just noticing last week how fat the trunks were getting but definitely did not expect *this*. These palms still look like some type of shrub though lol Will provide an update on these soon.

Borrasus aethiopum is a palm indigenous to tropical Africa. This has to be one of the most gigantic of all palms. It is beyond huge. I cannot see this palm growing in any real fashion unless you have a tropical climate. Brownsville probably has a chance. A few shots of these in South Florida:

Still looking for a Lowes that carries Bismarkias. I can only find Mexican fans, pindos, Chinese fans, Med fans, sagos, queens, bottles, spindles and date palms. Still a decent selection but I already have all these palms lol!

Put a decent sized mule in the ground today. Right in front of my queen as a replacement for the day that the cold inevitably kills it, be it next year or a decade from now. And I did plant this W Robusta I got off the clearance rack a month or two ago so I’ll add that as well. Looks much better now than it did.

In my always cool, humid microclimate this is the slowest growing species I have ever encountered. I have one about 10 years old in a 1-gallon pot. It is free to anyone who wants it, but no shipping, pick-up only at my place !

I've tried a couple to no success, but I probably planted them in the wrong areas. The winters always got them, though, and they would spear pull in the spring. Of course, this is wet winter bay area weather. Florida is like this whole 'nother world That being said, I have a perfectly healthy Jubaeopsis in my front yard that is starting to get some real size on it. Perhaps I should revisit the Ravenea, focusing on this area; but honestly, the space is already spoken for with the current plantings.

Don’t let the soil get even slightly dry and keep the palm in a semi shaded area rather than full sun. It should improve with warm/hot weather. Pic below shows the trunk partially submerged in water and most certainly saturated soil which these palms love.

These ones where at plumtree pocket nursery they where planted in 1998 in a warm subtropical climate and no sign of a trunk yet

Everyone: I am pleased to announce that our May 18, 2024 PSSC meeting will be at two gardens in northern San Diego County, the adjoining homes and gardens of Dorian Ouer and Scott Leonard, Encinitas, CA. Ouer Garden: On the south side of the street at 455 Naiad, this garden was started decades ago by Dorian Ouer's father, Dean Ouer, who heads up the International Palm Society's "Palm Talk" website. After son Dorian acquired the property in 2005, he picked up the torch and ran with it. It's one of those gardens you run out of superlatives to describe. There's a combination of variety and age that's hard to beat: mature Chrysalidocarpus (Dypsis) decipiens, Prestoea montana, C. baronii "Black Stem"; Ceroxylon species (trunking overhead); Ravenea glauca, plus numerous Chrysalidocarpus species, mature Rhopalystylus and a super rare Ravenea monticola, plus numerous cycads and Schizolobium and Enterlobium trees. Need to stop here, limited space. Just come see! Leonard Garden: Directly across the street from the Ouer Garden, this garden was started in 2014. Highlights include mature or maturing Benetickia condapanna, Caryota gigas, Ravenea julietae, Chrysalidocarpus leptocheilos, Chambeyronias, Rhopalistylus, Pritchardtias, and a big blue Bismarckia. This garden is also full of other plants, including a "tropical fruit orchard." Self-guided tours of both gardens start at the same time; start in one, walk across the street to the other. Both gardens are on the large side, but the terrain is relatively level. The Board Meeting, general meeting, potluck and auction will all be at the Ouer garden. POTLUCK LUNCH We'll be having a potluck lunch with chicken provided. Bring your favorite dish to share; meat, vegetables, dessert, or any combination all greatly appreciated. Make it yourself, or buy and bring it - if you like it, we will too! If it's your grandma's favorite recipe, so much the better. We don't care if your grandma was from Phoenix, Passau or the Punjab. Cook it up and we'll eat it! Come feast on food, and the joint joys of palms and good fellowship on a glorious spring day. ITINERARY: 9:30 AM Board of Directors Meeting 10:30 AM Begin Tours of both the Ouer and Leonard Gardens (across the street from each other) 12:30 PM Potluck Lunch at the Ouer Garden 1:00 PM Potluck lunch (please bring a dish) – Chicken, water, soda and utensils provided by PSSC - Donations welcome. 2:15 PM Begin Formal Meeting, Announcements 2:30 PM Plant Auction and Raffle 3:30 PM Adjourn Meeting – Clean Up Help Requested

You are likely correct. These Borrasus are located in an area where the Copernicias are taller than the Royals!

I think the last two are copernicias. The boots are not splitting in the criss-cross pattern.

So who’s coming to thi sone? We love to hear from alla y’all!

When you fertilized the palms , did you mix the fertilizer into the top soil? Also best to fertilize when the soil is damp , not dry. Harry

I now have 6 Jubaea chilensis seedlings and one Jubutia. I will likely keep these potted to at least 5 gallons before planting them in the ground along the forests edge. I am located just north of San Antonio, but at over 1,000 feet above sea level, my nights are cooler and my daytime humidity is much lower. I am hoping that these can survive my zone 8A or colder winters, and the Dallas area survivors have brought me some solace. The Jubutia is the 1 gallon pot on the left.

I don't have any contact info for him. If @PalmatierMeg or anyone else has direct contact info, they'll have to let you know. He should be one of the vendors at the SFPS Sale this weekend: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/83777-south-florida-spring-palm-sale-at-university-of-miami-coral-gables-april-27-28-2024/

Picture update. I had my tree cleaned and pollinated and de-throned. I planted 50 more Medjools. I have 150 Medjools, 40 zahedi , 5 Barhi. About 1500 pounds of Medjool are on the way. Just to give an idea. ita $400 one gal of pollen and $12 each tree to clean, 20240420_090247.mp4

I got one for Christmas 4 years ago and has been a good grower but a bug magnet

I picked a small one up at the CFPACS meeting a couple of weeks ago. The guy who germinated it has a large one in his yard. Not the seed source but the trunk is 4’ across at the base. Its massive! His advise was that their roots are hypersensitive probably more so then Bismarckia. So much so he said that if I try to remove it from the 2 gal pot that I’d probably kill it. If I do plant it out I’ll just carefully slice the walls of the pot and plant it directly in the ground in the pot. Otherwise moderate water and nothing specific about soil. PS I’ll be watching this thread for advise too now 😃

Currently 14c at 7.00am heading for a pleasant top of 25c, very pleasant conditions for our ANZAC day commemorations.

I have only *seen* them being cultivated. In that particular location, they were in a floodplain of black clay soil ("black cotton soil" in the US) that was waterlogged more or less for 2+ months in the hot season. The trees themselves were absolute monsters. Chonksters. Amazing. Good luck!

Hi palm people, I just planted this Phoenix Canariensis in the ground about 2 weeks ago and I have been giving it a LOT of water. I’ve noticed that the leaves are becoming misaligned. Is this because the excess water is causing the frond to become engorged and is this healthy? thanks

I have two royals that have been in the ground around 22 years. I treated the first today for Coconut rhinoceros beetle prevention (I hope). with Imicide capsules containing 3 mg each. Hope I drilled deep enough for the liquid to get absorbed and taken up to the crown. Will probably do the next tomorrow as I'm fighting a hernia and bending over hurts. The cost for 24 capsules was $175.95 plus tax. I have 7 pritchardias which will also need treatment. At this price I sure hope I save these. There are at least 16 more large palms, 22 year old palms but so far I don't see damage The one on the right is a Roystonea regia and the one on the left is Roystonea oleracea.

nice and cloudy 50f, visiting family in Canada

My Ravenea glauca does well with overstory sun/frost protection most years. My zone is becoming a stronger 9b in terms of annual temp ranges. That's a T. princeps behind it.

I'm training my 'Pineapple Broom' (Argyrocytisus battandieri) on a trellis and it did well over this past winter. More blooms this year than last. Has the great scent of ripe pineapples.

The difference in the two groups could be those seed that got pollinated and the others that did not. I have collected S. amara seed that varied in size and found that the smaller ones, although round, heavy and dense, did not germinate. It got to the point where I could spot a seed with the longer, elongated fruit and know 'that's a good one' and it would germinate. This is not an overarching rule, but just an observation. The seed size and shape can vary per tree, environment, conditions, etc. When in doubt, separate the seed into groups and see which germinate. Take note of which seed sink when soaked, and if they float, for how long until they sink, and if they do sink. Ryan

While I don’t live in California I can say the five ravenea glauca I have take temperatures as low 2 degrees Celsius possibly colder 0 degrees Celsius so they do take some cold with minus 2 in certain places in my area if thats some indication of how cold it can get but I don’t live in California so I have no local knowledge of temperatures there would be certain microclimates in and around California

Ed, plant in the general area where your Jubaeopsis is growing. That microclimate should be able to sustain it for awhile. R. glauca is not wimpy. Mine has been in 28F weather with no discernable damage. I'm guessing an absolute low of 25F is probably a safe bet.

I wanted a new palm T shirt and I wanted it to be original so I went online, uploaded a picture of my bizzy and designed this lol.

Friday was 30C, Saturday 32C and Sunday 32C, with low dewpoints and cool to cold nights. Very desert like temps. More like Alice Springs in April. On Monday we managed a few mm of rain which was a relief and there is a couple of mm here and there forecast, so I think the dry pattern is starting to turn. Highs are now in the high teens with a couple of 24C coming up on Friday, Sat before we get some rain again and temps settle into the high teens, low twenties. Long range forecast is for drier than average and warmer than average winter. It’s a long way off but November December are expected to be wetter than average with a decile 10 for Nov and 8 for December. Not good for harvesting grains for the farmers.

That's really great news on the Rainbow Eucs. They've always been a gorgeous tree, but I've restrained myself from planting one. Maybe if something perishes leaving a big open spot at the bottom of the yard, I'll roll the dice. Apperciate it - the yard is a continual work-in-progress. The Gumbo Limbo is doing great. It's at ~10 feet of overall height now and starting to get the peeling bark that makes it look interesting. You can see a little of the trunk in the photos of the Allagoptera planting on my post on that thread tonight. Where I live, palm horticulture is a little bit easier than over by County Line Rd. Between elevation, an ever-increasing UHI, and the lakes in the area, there are some decent microclimates. During radiational freezes, the difference can be quite significant. This is probably best illustrated by the photos of the Foxtails over by the airport vs. the Foxtails at Lake Miriam Square in the January 2022 Freeze: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/72092-january-2022-florida-freeze-report/?do=findComment&comment=1057329 This photo is an example of what happens in the fall in the UHI vs. outlying lower areas here:

Is it so hard to send a few small Butias my way! The cheapest I can get a Butia for here is $160 for not that big a palm. If I want a non hardy palm its no issue. I find the big box here stock so many tropicals, and I mean a lot of different tropicals that can survive a mild winter here, but anything below 30F and we may have issues.

I was unable to find a domestic source of seeds, so I bought a few plants. I was hoping someone on the board would have a source, so that I could buy a cone or two, but there were no bites. I have had no issues buying cycad seeds from Europe, but shipping can be cost prohibitive. You may want to contact @matthedlund at Wanderlust Nursery for plants.

My Lowes got a second shipment: Hello Butias, Washingtonias, and Roebellinis!

That's exactly what Harry's Palms was talking about way upthread, greenhouse grown and stretched out. I remember when 3 gallon Butias were a staple of the big box store, for under $20. I planted one at the family commercial property and my dad ran it over with the riding mower, but it somehow lived and put up some new growth, and then my brother started hitting it with the riding mower until it died. All along the northern Gulf Coast they sell Foxtails, I can't imagine why. People buy them and they die even in the best winter. But the store has a return policy, so savvy shoppers will make use of it. Seems like a giant waste of time and resources.

Ik its just the typical Majesty but these super huge ones over 10 feet tall for only 60 bucks

Lowes in Seattle area finally got some early shipment of the usual suspects: Trachys and Chamaerops.

I offer two palms, both grown in my greenhouse, so the purchaser must be careful about gradual exposure to direct sunlight. My greenhouse glazing transmission is about 75%. Pritchardia martii, from Floribunda source, is 1.5 inches in diameter and holds four good fronds in an 8x12 Stuewe citrus pot, $80. Pritchardia napaliensis, from Matt Patricelli, San Diego, is 2.75 inches in diameter and holds five good fronds in a 5 gallon pot, $160. I will be driving my minitruck to San Diego, and can offer delivery between April 1st and April 7th, delivery fee is a microbrew dark ale, and a tour of your garden ! Paypal, or cash, please, PM me for details and my PayPal address, thanks !

Not a palm, but first time I've ever seen Dioon at a Lowe's. The 14gal is big. Webster TX

Lowes in Atascocita has bunch of palms on clearance. Some Washingtonia in 7 gallon for $30, older fronds are brown but each have 3 or 4 green fronds still. Really nice 15 gallon Chamaerops $80 and small Queens for $10. I'm a sucker and couldn't resist a $10 palm.

I have 2 that are grown in full sun. They're a bit short and stubby. But this is the Orlando IKEA one that has grown so well.

St Pete was a rather small city in the 1980's even 90's, and it was mostly nothing but retirmenetville USA. It was also run down, and rather "ghetto". Even as late as 2009/9/10 it was not that great of a city. I have been visiting here since 1991 and have watched St Pete, and the entire TB area grow and change since then. It has dramatically changed for the better since. It is no longer retirementville USA at all. Average age here is down to around 40. It is a modernized, young, vibrant, cultured, progressive area now. Crime is way down, poverty is way down. What sold me on St Pete vs South FL (Fort Lauderdale) was its vibe (very coastal / tropical island vibe / lifestyle) , that it is a modern progressive area, cultured, surrounded by water, loads and loads of parks and outdoor recreation opportunities, some of the most gorgeous beaches in 10-20 min drive away. Its also smaller and not nearly as congested / rat racy as South FL is, which did remind of a big of the Washington DC Metropolitan area, with palm trees and a beach. But, I Digress. Each person is different and likes different things so the city it is now may not be appealing to some, just as smaller / certain areas are less appealing to me. Fort Myers / Cape Coral area is nice enough, but there are several things that make that area a total no go for me. I wont go into those here, but one of them is that its a bit small ish for me. I do enjoy visiting down there though. We camped on Pine Island 2 weekends ago and that was great. The "Palmyness" there is great as well, a bit more so than where I live currently. I think the main reason for that is many in the southern Tampa Bay area just don't think to plant / use some more tropical palms as much. There area plenty of very old, tall coconuts here, but they aren't everywhere like they are down there.

Based on what seems most important to you, N Florida vs. SE TX is similar palm wise. Texas pays more. That makes your decision easy. Pick an area near Houston (probably towards Galveston) that will be conducive to palm growing long term compared to cooler areas north of the city. If you can overcome the pay issue, I would recommend SW Florida. Pine Island, Bokeelia, Cape Coral, Lehigh Acreas are places where you can get property at reasonable levels some day. Maybe not today, but as you grow profesionaly and earn more, that might be a consideration for long term. But based on economics right now, Texas should do well. You could be one of the pioneers to re-palmify Houston. Remember, this really was a freak and unusual event and probably you won't see anything like this again in your life time.