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For comparison here is my 15 year old pure Jubea in Dallas

My geonoma undata is starting to show red. It was collected from a palm that was red not to long ago in Colombia ( I think)

I stumbled upon this amazing palm planted in the gardens of a church in NE Portland. I've seen taller trimmed specimens at one of the local palm nurseries, but not one this big in terms of sheer bulk. Wish I had something in for scale. You can't really see it on streetview but it's at the corner of SE 14th and SE Ash St in Portland, OR.

I'll leave my potted Foxtail out. They can take temperature in the 30's just fine based on my observations from last winter. The only palm I'll be bringing in Mon and Tue night is my Adonidia.

28F????/ WOW, crazy. Monday night low for us here is 37F, and a Tuesday night a low of 40F. Will place thermometers in different parts of the yard to see what I'll actually capture as my lowest low.

@CodyORB Since it isn't too large, just take a large beach towel or blanket, tie the fronds up around the growing point, and then wrap it up if you're worried about losing it. It was enough to keep seedlings alive here during the advective freeze in Jan. 2018.

well, I own at least one! Thanks @DoomsDave !

Florida grown Mauritia flexuosa. 3g for $25. I can ship, but these are large plants, will be expensive. About 20 available

I’m like everyone else right now it would be my bizzey I wish I could stop it at this size they are not as impressive when they get tall

Just love this little butia I planted April 1st.

NOAA makes weather records from the Florida stations available to download for free. Out of the 1,700+ stations, 358 contain at least some temperature data. If one were to download all of these records, import them into a database, and use some crafty SQL queries to generate sheets for each of the impact freezes it would provide a really good side-by-side resource to compare the microclimates in each region of Florida. That is exactly what has been done with the 0000_202011040720_F_SQL_v2.xlsx spreadsheet attached to this post. Each tab in the spreadsheet contains records for one of our unfortunate cold events. The records come sorted first by the TAG column, which represents one of the areas in the pictures and is defined by a set of latitude and longitude boundaries. A second sort is by the station name alphabetically. This gives you a region of weather stations sorted alphabetically that allows you to see the temperatures in the region beside each other. The lists are able to be filtered or sorted in any way you choose, so if you are only interested in weather stations in a particular region or set of regions, this is easily accomplished. For easy viewing, the rows for each region alternate in shading. This is easy to remove or change if you wish. If you would like to see the boundaries of a region, the weather stations used with a link to their corresponding Weather Underground station, or a listing of the freezes and some commentary lifted from Florida Citrus Mutual’s website, or a description of the station location, the 202007121300_NOAA_WeatherStations_TemperatureOnly.xlsx sheet will have a plethora of this information. For anyone who likes to look at the various airport weather stations on Wunderground, 202004292350_AirportWeatherStations.xlsx will give you as complete listing of these stations as I could assemble. Now for a description of the various TAGs: PEN = Pensacola area PAN - Panama City Area TAL - Tallahassee Area EPN - Eastern Panhandle CNF - Central North Florida JAX - Jacksonville area NEF - Northeast Florida - Dayona + St. Augustine and surrounding area NWC - Northwest Central Florida SWC - Southwest Central Florida NIC - North Inland Central Florida SIC - South Inland Central Florida ECF - East Central Florida SWF - Southwest Florida SEF - Southeast Florida MUK - Miami and the Upper Keys KEY - The South and Western Florida Keys 0000_202011040720_F_SQL_v2.xlsx 202007121300_NOAA_WeatherStations_TemperatureOnly.xlsx 202004292350_AirportWeatherStations.xlsx

Back in March 2016 I planted three Dypsis Saintelucie in my side garden. Before planting, many had suggested they don't like it too wet and would likely die if drainage was poor. Anyway, 3 years, 9 months later and they have powered along nicely without a hint of trouble.

@gtsteve you're correct on both counts.

7.5 pH isn't an obvious issue but could be improved in my eyes. According to this map by the Hawaiian CTAHR the higher elevations of Kauai (where P. minor is native) are below 5.8 pH.

Took this list palm shopping today but only managed to obtain the Maritia flexulosa for the wet area. Still managed to get 11 more species though for other sites, thanks to a visit to the Bill Austin nursery - thanks Bill for the hospitality, conversation, tour and great plants!

A real shame for sure, it was a beauty. I’m sure it will be sorely missed.

I went ahead and brought everything inside. There will be no sun tomorrow, all rain. Might aswell do it right?

@JLM It looks like it will be around 35F-37F here in my neck of the woods if they are reasonably accurate with the forecast. I set out some additional thermometers just to see what happens in various areas of the yard. Radar shows a big nasty mess coming our way as usual before the cold air gets here. I guess some of the new "out-of-zone" stuff will get a good practice test out of this one. Nothing in the 20s, at least so far.

Unfortunately, after applying alternating H202 drenches and copper fungicide treatments to the bud several times over a few weeks, the condition did not improve. Here is the last picture I'll be taking of it - the tree service is coming next week to remove the remains. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

I really enjoyed this tour of your garden. Thanks. Mike

My first pindo. Been growing nicely since planting a few months ago. Working on the 3rd new fond. Got some that are touching ground. Need to know when to prune. I'm in Greenville SC.

Looking great Lars. Thanks for posting these updated pictures, I always enjoy seeing your garden and the hard work you put into it.

Nice! I might try something like that for a zone-pushed palm next year.

Hey guys, While at a nursery here today I came across a 3 gallon Butia and picked it up. The fronds seem to spiral clockwise which is weird, and twist a little. It also appears blue/glaucous to me. Thoughts? Is this odorata? It was labeled capitata but we all know about that.

Not too bad considering its reputation of being unbearably slow in cool climates: Early September 2019: November 2020(minus one and a half fronds if you want to compare it with early September 2020). It has even flowered for the first time and set some seeds

Steve, I'm hoping to see an update of yours. Mine are a couple of years behind yours and both are a little more stretched compared to yours although mine are getting a good deal of sun. I have both staked as they tend to be a little wobbly still. The one below is in a narrow strip between the paver driveway and a paver seating area, so roots may still be working to reach into the soil on those sides. The other doesn't have any excuses as it's planted in a more open position with no hardscape nearby, but still appreciates the stake support for now. Mine were planted from 1 gallons in 2016. Anyone else find this species a little wobbly when young. I had similar problems when growing Dypsis marojejy (which I no longer have).

I moved this 3-4 month old baby up from a cup today to a 3 gal (?), with large holes at the bottom with tons of perlite. It looks small but the root system was already busting the seams. I’m keeping the seed and the growing point above the soil as that keeps it safer from rot (in my experience). A lot of people think it’s crazy to grow Jubaea in a humid climate, but it’s the nematodes that’s do them in. A very freely draining pot out of the soil is a safe bet. I won’t be fertilizing yet. Let’s see where we go from here!

Looking good! Very palmy indeed!

Joseph, you might check with someone connected with Boyce Thompson. If i remember correct, there were 1 -or a couple specimens of this sp. in the Wallace Garden ( formally in Scottsdale. Now part of Boyce's collection ) There's also a place that sells seeds of plants from Chile/ near by parts of S. America which may offer seed worth looking over/contacting. Looking for a source for the red- flowering Prosopis sp. -from S. America- myself. I might have mentioned it before but think there might be a specimen of this sp. in U of A' s collection... Was listed on the Arboretum's page last time i checked.

@Matthew92 it does appear fairly likely. Based off the models i expect temps to range from 29-32, this could change. Not queen killing temps! If the temps threaten to go any lower than 26 i will be wrapping the queens to be safe.

This just isnt even credible anymore...This is the CMC snowfall forecast

I haven't had my housing out in the water for a while now but before Go-pro's and drones, I used to swim out mostly in the early morning to shoot surfing and sunrises. Sometimes I did afternoon sessions as well, which presented another set of challenges on the West Coast and shooting into a setting sun. This was one January swell here in San Diego with the cliffs on fire with the setting sun's golden light. The second photo I snapped as I was swimming in as the sun sets over the Pacific. The best sunsets locally are in November, December and January, so maybe it's time for me to get out the housing and camera body that goes with it again.

Looks perfect Tuija. Tim

Thanks. I’ll get them posted tomorrow for you. My original plants from a few years ago are now starting to look nice. here is my largest on, this was back in early summer and it’s grown quite a bit since then. the 2nd pic is my best wag x nanus. These really have taken on more waggie than I had ever expected.

Look. Everybody starts somewhere in their knowledge, but you have over 250 posts and don't seem to know much. I recommend that you stop posting and put in the time to research the topic in depth. Good luck. Using the search button will take you down the rabbit hole.

Steve, I’ve also found germination rates with Jubaea and Parajubaea are improved if the seed is dried for at least a month then rehydrated before sowing.

This is like the Michael Jordan of gardens.

Just a fun update on my Butia since I've been updating most all other threads I have. I suppose its settled because growth has suddenly picked up over the last couple of weeks.

Y’all tell me how to turn these into more palms!

I do. Got some from a member on here and they aren't too bad to get going. I soaked mine for a few days then put the seeds in potting soil in a cell tray with a heat pad and dome and about a month later most germinated. Given most of them away still have 4 left from this batch and I want to try them outside in a good setting.

Waterfall looks great - care to swing by my place??

Now you guys are just rubbing it in.

That's a good deal =)

Butias are quite variable. Nice color on yours - here's one I recently purchased:

San Diego zoo came and picked up the palms today; they will be potted in some giant pots in the near-term, then put in the ground about a year from now. Hate to see them go, but looking forward to seeing them in their new home next year!

I planted them about a week ago and they have been growing great. Put some Palm tone around them for a boost. Deer have not even neared them. Hoping for the best.

We did not get below 11 c during the coldest day (zone 12), our queen did get burned in one frond. I can't say if it is only the wind or if the salt can reach our place (which would contribute to the burning) as being 130 m elevation and 500/600 m from the ocean we are quite far. What I can say however is that these palms grow in way cooler climates and thta we had high sustained winds for weeks, never seen anything like that there. One does not simply ignore the wind:D, I have learned it now...: This is the result of the tragic March, gusts of 170 km/h, strong winds were also sustained for weeks. For anyone that is used to our climate this is shocking (we are not used to such winds like I said, not for quite this long in an otherwise windless city). If one is to visit Madeira this year it will look quite sad.