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Apparently this has developed into a thing now in the UK. Well southern England anyway... just crazy... Ashley Road, Ryde New Esplanade Court, Paignton The White House / Cary Court, Torquay The Earls Court pool CIDP is about 15-20 foot now, but it is dwarfed by the 30 foot Robusta. That CIDP will start putting on 3 foot of growth per year now though at that size, like the others. Splashdown Quaywest waterpark in Paignton has a lot of CIDP's growing there, which will be as big as some of the others I have posted in another decade or so... North Ford Road, Dartmouth Anyone got any photos of big CIDP's towering over pools? These UK ones are a work in progress still obviously. I know a lot of people are against the idea of growing CIDP's next to pools and having them tower over eventually like the ones in the first picture I posted. I know some people feel the same with Washies and many other big/tall palms. Personally, I love the look of it.

New leaf is opening which is needed as the existing oldest ones are getting a bit crispy. Trunk is getting stout but still subterranean. Will need a few more new leaves to open and old ones to die before I see any ringed trunk.

Here's my update (lawn chair for scale):

As I have seen others have done I’d like to start a thread to share and follow my own palm growing experience and progress. Hopefully 10 years from now I’ll have a mini jungle to enjoy and be able to look back at the hits and misses here on Palmtalk. Early 2021 was the first year I became aware of my palm obsession and when I started growing and planting palms. I feel like you get a little extra out of the experience if you grow from seed yourself so I try to do that as much as possible however most of the palms I have were already started. So last year I purchased a 5 gal Flamethrower and (2) 5 gal Sylvesters which went into the ground and are doing well. I also picked up 2 Buccaneer palms that went into the ground and are also doing well. In May of last year I discovered Floribunda (through palmtalk) and placed a couple orders. I was so excited when the big boxes of rare palms showed up. So fast forward to last weekend 2/26/22. I was finally able to plant some of the rare goodies I’d been nurturing in pots all these months. 1 - 3 gal Bentinkia condopanna 2 - 3 gal Neovietchia storckii 3 - 1 gal Dypsis carlsmithii 4 - 3 gal Loxococcus rupicola 5 - 3 gal Areca vestiaria red 6 - 3 gal Carpoxylon macrospermum 7 - 2 gal Pinanga speciosa 8 - 2 gal Hyophorbe indica red I know many of these are borderline here for various reasons and I’ve tried to read and absorb as much of PT community knowledge base as possible but sometimes you just have to try. That being said please feel free to chime in with your experience and knowledge on any of these palms. Post pics of your own successes especially if your on the coast here in Central East FL.

Added a few over the last couple of weeks. Hyophorbe indica red Cyphophoenix nucele Vietchia spiralis Satakentia Liukiuensis I’m torturing Roystonia regia - from seed about 15 months old. Phoenix canariensis - from seed about 16 months old. Planted in the ground as a single strap about a year ago. Dypsis lanceolata Gaussia gomez-pompae Normanbya normanbyi with a little bit of trunk showing?

So I've decided that each week, on every Friday, I'll post pictures of my Washingtonia filibusta seedlings. Just so I can document and share the growth of these palms. I already posted a picture of them a little over a week ago, but now the pictures can officially start. The second and third picture are of the ones that seem to be growing the best, this could change and is one of the reasons why I want to document their growth.

Hey everyone, Here's an update on the royal palms. Unfortunately couldn't keep all of them. Here are some pics of the ones that were repotted and are still in my possession and one seed that rolled into the soil, will have to take it out as it will ruin the floor at some point. You can see the growth difference of the potted ones and the one directly in the ground. Cheers Cheers

Enjoy it Tracy, at this size or a tad larger is when it’s most beautiful. Mine is just BIG and the velvety broken tomentum is waaayyy up there. Tim

Dypsis robusta has been a decent grower for me here in California but also shows damage from winter cold or spring's dry Santa Ana wind. I'm curious what others are experiencing here with this species. I planted mine in 2015 I believe. First photo was on 8/21/2017, and second pair of photos as it opens a new leaf 4/22 & 4/23/2021. The house is west of the palm. and the shower is to the north for orientation. Last winter I removed the Phoenix roebelenii that provided some shade to it's south when it was smaller as it wasn't needed anymore and was just in the way. I don't know if I had given it more protection if the older leaves and leaflets would show less damage or if its just because it is such a borderline species to grow here. If you have tried or are still growing one here, I would be interested in hearing your experience.

Found what I think will make a really cool palm In a few yrs… a triple trunk trachy takil. A tongue twister. Pretty interesting specimen have not seen another like it. Single seed I believe

My vacation day job for this afternoon was moving the Sylvestris. It was one of the first palms I planted back in early 2018, before I knew anything about palms. I saw them everywhere and I wanted one, so I bought it! Now I see them everywhere, and I don't want it! TPPD/LB appears to be killing a bunch of Sylvestris and Dactylifera nearby, so I decided it was time to take it out of the prime center spot in the backyard. I trenched around it with a shovel, then used a reciprocating saw cutting horizontally about 18" below ground level to slice off the roots. The reciprocating saw was key, with an 8" Diablo carbide pruning blade. A 12" blade probably would have been easier, but I could slice across easily instead of trying to chop and pry with a shovel. I also diamond-cut it (kinda) just because it made it easier to handle: Clearly I could have taken more roots, but directly below the trunk was a section of pure root mass with no dirt. This was probably from the original 7g pot, and new roots didn't seem to have grown through it. So as long as it survives the transplant, maybe it'll grow better without a huge pocked of air underneath: And it now lives (I hope!) in the front yard, between an Attalea Cohune double (front right) and a huge Encephalartos Ituriensis (behind it to the right). Hopefully it'll give them a bit of frost protection in a couple of years!

Wow, it's been a while since I posted an update here! Over the last 6ish months I've been doing a lot of other stuff, weeding and cleaning up after a late January brutal cold weekend. Despite about 4 hours at 24-26F in the backyard, most of the damage was transient or at least not fatal to most plants. My yard was definitely a cold spot, as less than a mile away there were white bird of paradise, zamia furfuracea (cardboard) and philodendron that were essentially untouched. Here's my profile for that weekend: The backyard took the most damage, with extended time in the mid 20s. Here's what it looked like ~3 weeks after the freeze: The most shocking one to me was the big Dioon Spinulosum on the right, which looked nearly perfect! They have a reputation burning badly around 28-30F, and my experience has been minimal damage even with frost. The majority of plants bounced back, and today the cycads have all flushed and the bamboo are filling back in. The only likely deaths are a couple of non-hardy agaves, a triple Foxtail on the left, and a Thrinax Radiata. Even seedlings of Livistona Speciosa, Saribus Robinsoniana, Dypsis Arenarum, Pinanga Coronata Kuhlii, Pychosperma Macarthurii and Dypsis Pembana all survived! They were somewhat protected by the bamboo, so probably didn't get a lot of frost. A small Dypsis Cabadae over near the Bismarck was completely torched, but I left it in place...today I noticed about an inch of green leaf popping up! Here's what it looked like this morning:

Nice collection but I really hate to see something like this - all of that nice planting space occupied. Sell the boat and you have room for a lot more palms.

Thanks for the link Dean. I had heard of the two types over the years and it just remained an antidotal discussion. Threads like this make me run out to the garden to check out a specific palm per the discussion. My two appear to be P. henryana. No orange, just green, They were acquired as seedlings back in 2015 and have yet to flower. Tim

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2 - 3 gal Neovietchia storckii 3 - 1 gal Dypsis carlsmithii 5 - 3 gal Areca vestiaria red 6 - 3 gal Carpoxylon macrospermum These in particular are pretty difficult palms for FL, 6 needs plenty of water

@Looking Glass great minds think alike, and ours too! I just received my Floribunda order, placed by email around 4/22. In this box are seedlings of Arenga Undulatifolia, Chamaedorea Ernesti-Augustii, and Kerriodoxa Elegans. 4" pots are Chamaedorea Pinnatifrons (4' tall in 4" pots!), Dypsis Foficifolia, Lanonia Dasyantha, and Licuala Distans. The big pots are Dypsis Lastelliana and Dypsis Rosea. Here's the Undulatifolia and Ernesti-Augustii seedlings, potted up solo for Arenga and double + triple for the Chamaedorea.

There is also anecdotal evidence that the mesocarpa form is slightly more cold tolerant.

I think he’s always operated that way. I bought from him pretty consistently but he wouldn’t answer my text inquiries for weeks, and out of nowhere he’d text me answering half of what I asked and saying he’s heading down to Houston tomorrow, what should he bring?(when I lived in Houston). I grew used to it. He made the vast majority of money selling to local landscapers, and is possibly still doing so.

The Howeas were kicked out of the house today. shade trees have leafed out enough to protect my potted palms. Mid May is when most of the palms and orchids go outdoors.

Yeah, it sucks. He had a great inventory for cold hardy enthusiasts. I was hoping he would make a come back, but that seems less and less likely.

Siesta Key. Very little care. Does well. 6 years? Maybe 7? From a 15 gallon.

I have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion. From this point on, I prefer to be left out of this conversation.

I did remember to pollinate and have bunch of fruit almost ripe now. Should have seedlings by fall if all goes well. Matt

I think he would need to address all the people still waiting for their orders first.

Yes, the same guy that was doing the little guy a favor by selling to us, when he had bigger and better things to do. No sympathy. What if he come back online, everyone just so desperate to take him back?

My C. Cataractarum spit out 4 new fronds to this song while my Kentias didn't move. This didn't actually happen but I'd be 0% surprised if it did lololol lolol

Bruh I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I've killed 10 Howeas. Split them up, dead. Don't split them up, dead. Water them regularly, dead. Don't water them regularly, dead. Consistent lighting, dead. Inconsistent lighting, dead. Indoor grown, dead. Outdoor grown, dead. I've done everything except put mine outside in Texas full sun and I've killed 10 out of 12 I've bought and I literally check them for spear pull every morning.

Myrtle Beach, South Carolina (zone 8b). Just for future reference, usually people put their location and zone below their profile

Another full bloomer nearby:

Smaller tree nearby in full bloom:

Closer up:

They're native to a fairly arid climate, so those roots go down fast to secure a source of water. I need to transplant mine soon (started from seed a while back), these had to have roots severed from the bottom as they managed to send roots into cracks in the blacktop of the driveway.

Here it was back in May of 2019 I moved it to a sunnier location and after 3 years I just noticed today that there are 2 inflorescences on 2 trunks .

Haha haven’t made purchase yet. And just like you, I’m way past the asking for permission phase. Buy it, sneak it in next to the other potted plants, she never knows the difference.

What's nice about Seramis / Calcined Clay, Pumice / Lava rock ( if / where available ) and Chicken Grit ( unless you can collect similar - sized grit yourself ) is you can buy a big bag and it will last quite awhile, ..unless you're potting up dozens of things at a time. Coco Peat is nice too because it usually comes in a compressed block that can be expanded in water. easy to store, and expands out to roughly the equivalent of 2 cubic ft. of bagged stuff.. Couple blocks a couple times a year ..any you'll have plenty.. Only thing w/ any coconut husk product is it is best to put through a " Rinse, drain and repeat " process before using it. Some distributors are good about sourcing product that has had a lot of the salt, naturally retained in the Husk, rinsed out. Some aren't so good about that and you can get a block ( of chunky stuff ) that still has a little more salt in it than you'd want. I have a 5 gal bucket w/ holes drilled into the bottom edge where i'll process whatever quantity of Coco Peat i'll need, then soak / allow to expand, and let it drain, ...Then refill the bucket / let drain off again before mixing. I'll usually do this a day before i'm going to pot up stuff.. Another thing w/ both Coco Peat / Husk chunks and Seramis ..at least here.. is during the part of our summer when humidity is often 20% or lower / Dew Points in the Teens to -0F range, moisture can be drawn from it pretty efficiently ..so i do have to water seedlings / things in 1 gal / smaller pots a little more often, esp. anything exposed to more sun. Good thing is, unlike Peat moss, when wetted, Coco peat will wet all the way through, and doesn't shrivel into a nearly impossible to re wet soil mass.

Thanks guys its about a 4hr drive to here I'll have the let the guy know to cover tbe fronds like that for me just to be sure, bc in a month I'm gonna get it and I want it to go correctly so hopefully he delivers this far I think he will.

Definitely helps aerate soil mixes, ..use it in everything i grow, for over a decade.. That said, it is best when mixed w/ other ingredients such as Pumice, Coco Peat ( Ground Coconut Husk, ..not Peat Moss ) small Lava rock, and/ or " Chet " which is broken down rocks, whose particle size is roughly the same as Seramis / Calcined Clay. < collect that from local stream beds but can be bought as Chicken Grit from Feed supply stores > As mentioned, Perlite floats out of soil mixes over time, leaving behind all the dense and decomposing organics / fine sand in the mix to compact in the pot. Not good for roots / getting oxygen circulating down to them. Haven't touched the stuff in years. ** Should add, anyone still using Pine Bark, instead of chunky Coconut husk in the soil mixes for Orchids / other Epiphyte- type plants? Many long time growers have abandoned it as a " soil " medium. Coconut Husk holds up much better, and provides natural compounds that can help subdue the presence of pathogenic bacteria / fungi.

I'm leaning toward S. minor, which has flatter, i.e., less costapalmate, leaves than palmetto. I also see a distinct blue tint to those leaves, Palmettos are usually greener.

I was under the assumption that it was sabal palmetto which would be much more "crazy" since Greensboro is far inland - almost 200 miles from their natural range. And, there are no other palms on the Well-Spring campus for it to have naturalized from

That's very interesting and smart thing to mulch the seedlings with stones that accumulate/release heat, I have seedlings so I think I should do the same, too

My beach garden in Guatemala.

Sunset in Tiny Jungle/Patio Squad. Literally everything is pushing at least one new leaf.

Since you're in the desert, I would dig a large hole and add compost and lots of bark mulch/organic material. Trachycarpus seem to like having wet feet, and nutrient rich soil. There's a saying about putting a $5 palm in a $10 hole. If it were me, I'd also plant it in as much shade as you can give it. This is a matter of personal preference but in my opinion Trachy's look best grown in shade, and trachy's in intense heat and full sun don't look good. For me, Trachycarpus do best when I put them in the ground, water heavily, and leave them alone. When I apply fertilizer they get yellow fronds. That may not be the case for you, wish I could say.

..Just a few....

If you don't mind looking down the whole time

Thar she blows! Super psyched to see this. Any care tips much appreciated!

Wow, that's great! I love the rock concept as the squirrels love my pots and the added heat is a bonus! Thanks!

Crazy how big this flower is, in comparison to the trunk height. Been feeding it bloom food, so that might be part of it. This has the possibility to produce a huge amount of seed. aloha