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A short visit to Villa Thuret in Antibes (INRAE). It's a garden where many species of plants are acclimatized, including palms. Here is Chamaedorea radicalis arborescent form.

Ho Lee Grail, Ho Lee Chit! Thankfully I have a garden large enough to wander and wonder at the beauty and variability of the various species of plants. Every now and then an event happens that well......, takes one's breath away. This Lemurophoenix has decided to come out of it's shell. It has held it's leaf sheaths for years now and they finally gave way to reveal the most spectacular display, in a large way, of mauve, purple, and pink. Planted almost 12 years to the day from a 3 gallon, it was certainly worth the wait. Now, where's that bus, I'm ready to be run over. Tim

Dropped a leaf sheath this morning…’ INCOMING’! Not nearly as colorful as the first sheath and not sure why. Time of year maybe? Anyway, it’s growing pretty dang fast since it started trunking. The sheath alone weighs a ton, not easy dragging that thing to the truck. Tim

A few more..... Tim

Wishing you all a fun and safe Thanksgiving holiday. We're in full transition to winter in Fresno, 50s/60s throughout the day, with fog cover most days. 70s and sunny if the stars align (which sounds like a San Francisco summer ) . Lots of annuals are holding on to color, but they'll soon start getting powdery mildew and will need to be cut out. For now, palms seem to be loving the increase in humidity and some cloudforest plants are loving it too.

That's looking really good James, mine took nearly 2 years to acclimate to the spot I planted it in but man oh man is it a looker now.

Sabal Palmetto thriving in Uzbekistan (pics not mine) I thought these don't grow here in cold arid desert climate at all!

Update from June - nice, deep-green fronds.

More pics Washingtonia robusta pic I posted earlier a year later Palmetto Queen palm with newer growth Live oaks Citrus tree with lemons ripening

The last picture is I believe Dypsis malcomberi towering overhead.

And more and more. The last picture shows the tallest Sabal mauritiiformis I've ever seen.

Hey Y'all. I had a very large Dypsis heteromorpha die from a fungal infection, leaving this Licuala exposed to full midday to afternoon sun. I thought for sure it was gonna fry after growing up in the filtered light of the Dypsis above, but it made it through the second half of summer completely perfect. My question is: Do you think I should plant another taller clumping Dypsis (D. lafazamanga) next to it to give it some filtered light again, or do you think that this Licuala can take this much sun? I'm in SoCal about 9 miles from the coast. Something to consider is that the stumps of the dead Dypsis is buried under that mulch, so I'm not sure if that would be smart to replant in that spot so soon without the old stumps rotting away first. Any ideas would be welcomed. Thanks.

All gone.

Probably OK but wouldn't leave those that size out in freezing again though. I planted that potted one this year. Roots seemed OKKKKKKKK

Ryan - I have fallen deep into tropical fruit trees. Plinias / Eugenias / Mangoes have my undivided attention now. Such a different world from palms.

I finger planted (just the tip of the index finger) 6 D. plumosa seeds @DoomsDave gifted me. 5 sprouted. 4 were killed by feral cats who loved, yes, past tense, to play with what they thought was tall blades of grass. I have one survivor. It's doing well.

Yes looks a lot like a C. scoparia!

Here's one of mine that I transplanted back in August from my my brother's old property. It set seed last year and I'm debating on letting it set a bract of pure Butia before doing hybrids on it.

You seem to be in 6B. I have a small Palmetto in 7A and it will need some protection. In 6B most winters it will need to be covered. it will take 3 years for you to have a 3 foot tall palm from the Plant Delights ones. Here is a pic of mine after about 3 seasons from Plant Delights.

More awesome visuals!

The host standing next to a Dypsis orange crush in the first picture.

I got some pictures to post. Greg's garden is definitely a masterpiece! It was great seeing everyone. It had been years since I made it to a meeting.

I came across this gem in Laguna Beach. Off Ocean Way and Ruby if you’re in the area.

And a Dypsis pilurifera (spelling?)

such a view!

Here's mine this year versus a year ago. Planted it in the ground sometime in 2019 from a 3 gallon grown from seed years ago (it just languished in a pot forever). Currently gets full Florida sun up until about 2 pm.

October 2011, I had purchased this from a "Palm Talker". It seemed to take a couple of years before it was showing any growth. I liked the 24 deg. F low, no weapons, it could take the heat / low humidity I have to deal with. My current photo is more of a close up as it has a large P. Theophrasti dominating attention behind it. The "corn cob on a stick" looking seed pod presented itself last year, but I didn't see any pollen being offered to it. This year the seed pod was fully developed, but again, I wasn't seeing the pollen contribution. The last week of September, individual seeds would raise from the cob, then get released. The seeds collected look like Halloween Candy Corn and that fruit is easily removed. I had concerns that these would not germinate, but in the last 3 days.....4 of the 21 seeds sown have started The Circle of Life. 7 weeks to germinate in my converted ice chest, 40 watt drop light, lid raised 1" and it sees 80-85 deg. F 24/7 which I water each day due to evaporation.

Long-time IPS member Elvis Cruz is the primary caretaker of the magnificent palmetum at Morningside Park, Miami, Florida, USA. Above left to right, that’s a tall Thrinax radiata, then a Copernicia gigas farther back, two tall Bismarckia nobilis farther away, then a row of three Copernicia fallaensis, and a portion of a Corypha utan at frame right. This 3-acre garden was a defining element of the park’s original design in 1953. However the palmetum had been neglected. The South Florida Palm Society adopted this jewel in the rough, and there are now nearly 200 palms representing over 125 species. The garden is enjoyed by the entire community. Elvis regularly conducts tours for biology students and the general public. Alarmingly the city is considering demolishing the ENTIRE garden. A public meeting will be held to discuss the fate of the Morningside Park Palmetum. If you reside in the Miami area, please try to attend and help protect this public treasure. Monday, November 29, 2021, at 6 pm, at the Morningside Park community building: 750 NE 55 Terrace, Miami, FL 33137. For those of you who cannot attend in person, please consider expressing your support of the Morningside Park Palmetum by emailing Miami City Commissioner Ken Russell: KRussell@miamigov.com Please let Commissioner Russell know that this palm garden is a precious public asset that has been selflessly and diligently nurtured and maintained by a volunteer organization for the enjoyment and education of the general public. For someone in the City government to suggest destroying it, in order to add a playing field to a park that already has plenty, makes no sense.

The PSSC had its November 2021 meeting and you had best believe that rip roaring good time was had by all. At the Hamann garden on City Lights drive in El Cajon in San Diego County. Lots of Palm Talkers in attendance and I dearly hope you all see fit to chime on in! An obligatory pool shot.

I think the main factor in getting them to survive in a colder zone is planting in a microclimate. Against a foundation on a south facing wall can make a huge difference than being planted in a super exposed place in the garden. Overhead cover is very important. If planted as an understory palm under a mature pine tree for example would shield a palm and for arguments sake let’s say a half zone of hardiness in my opinion. A very cold winter could kill them regardless, look at what happened in Texas last year. Palmetto seemed to make it where other palms didn’t, but there were still some that died. I would have previously thought a palmetto would be bulletproof Dallas area and south. To the main point, planted out in the open in zone 7b seems like a matter of time until the cold gets it.

@JJPalmer you stole my idea haha Already 66F an hour later at my location.

I have many of a Pindo and Sago Palm sprouts out of the ground in my yard. Pot them up and sale. Some grow easily, others not. Some things grow too easily…thus becoming invasive. Look up the Cold-hardy Mimosa tree, I see it competing (and winning) against native trees from FL to NC & TN.

We've had instances with NOAA readings where there were 10F+ discrepancies. The last one I can remember was an observation from the Tarpon Springs Water Plant. The recorded temperature was in the 20s and the weather underground readings everywhere around it were in the low to mid-30s. It's not out of the question that the reading may have been inaccurate. There is a chance. I'd like to grab the data for all of the MET stations. If anyone can grab the raw data and post it, I can feed it into a database and run a few queries on it pretty easily. Both of the Kentia posted look great. That's really the best coconut replacement for oceanic climates.

Just noticed this gal flowering for the first time. Lots of bees so hopefully it’ll set some seed.

Yeah, possible 38 here in Jville as well tonight. Will be moving some palm seedlings into the greenhouse when I get home.

I’m in Austin and it’s remarkable everything that came back. Sabals are all untouched for the most part, CIDP all came back basically, Washingtonias are 60/40 but we even have 35’ Robusta hybrids that recovered. no you can’t do anything about the freeze events like this year, but also the temps we saw this year were forecasted a week out; problem was nobody believed we would actually see temps that low. And even in the case of these big freeze events, it’s a matter of just a few degrees between surviving or not. Look at difference between Austin and San Antonio recoveries. Or south austin vs north austin 99% of the time you can grow just about every palm you want and they will look great. San Antonio even had a good number of great looking queen palms before the freeze

Thank you so much! For some reason it isn't letting me open them and is putting them as an Internet Explorer file. I'll try to figure out how to open them.

Yes, the endocarp is the actual hard out shell of the seed. Image grabbed from Google....

12' mule - Winter wrapping this year, mini lights (400), thermocube, planket frost cloth, plastic fencing to secure fronds, 2 poles with a pvc top to support frost cloth on top (10' round planket)

I guess to wrap up the day:

And a pandanus species.

These can grow really well in NW FL, ive seen several in my area with at least 10 ft of trunk, some more. Most of the trunks have been cleaned to some extent. They actually look really nice.

Fatsia japonica, some with cast iron plant Acuba japonica I posted this queen palm earlier, this is an newer pic Banana plant I A newer pic of a washingtonia robusta I posted earlier(took the pic in winter)

Here is a couple of foxtails about 2-1/2' from my house in SO. CA... My main water line and sprinkler controls are right behind the tree on the left (Horrible placement on my part)... I have just done some major sprinkler and controls repair/replacements, and had to cut thru some the roots (Very fine , but a lot of them) to do this... I was less than a foot or two away from the tree, but if I was a couple of feet farther away, there would have been no problem at all... These trees have done no damage to piping, foundation or the roof... This is my long winded way of saying that you should have no problem planting them where you want... You can also see how much shade is provided.. No where near as much as the oak... Butch

Just bumping this, since Chris is active on here and probably looking to steal money from some other sucker.

The interest in palms is increasing, palms becoming popular both in the urban street greenery and in private green spaces. Trachies, Washies and marginal Chamaeropses is what I usually see in my 8A zone, the southern regions enjoy longer summers and shorter winters if there's any so they have wider options. I think dacties would be techncially a good option for Denov, I'm nearly sure I will find some more or less mature specimens when I visit that region in person. I have doubts, however, that there's any serious commercial potential because local markets are flooded now with cheap dates from Kerman province of Iran ($2 per kilo), and they are not that bad... Filibusta is definitely becoming the palm #2 here, shifting slowly bullet-proof and sustainable Trachies.

Thank you! Patience is my middle name.

If you’re hoping for big trunked specimens, you’ll need patience. Mine are 25 years old from seed. They’re big bodacious palms and growing at a high rate of speed now but the seedling/small palm stage is one that lasts many years.

Heterospathe longispathe, Areca ipot seeds, and Basselinia eriostachys crown. Tim

Some daily stuff. aloah