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When I first joined this forum I didn’t know because I was too far gone. But I was going through bad depression because of work. I was drinking heavily but also obsessed with palms. I was using palms and this forum as a way to feel better. I’m very thankful for that. And this. Iam doing amazing as I got a new job within the company. (Huge company) I’ve taken on reef tanks again. As I did as a youngster. Thank you to everyone for your support. Thanks for the love. The YouTube support. My palms are doing well indoors here in southern Ontario. I did loose a few seedlings this winter as I have been taking care of my family. My parrots and my reef tanks. But I do get some dm as people ask me for advice for indoor northern growing and it makes me feel great!! I know I’m not on a lot. But I just want to say thank you to everyone for helping me get through a hard time in my life ! rob61 points
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The garden is 15 years old and my climate is cool humid oceanic and frost free with little extremes of temperature. All the Lord Howe Island palms and cloud forest palms grow like escapees in the ground.
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Trimming some overgrown accent plants and weeds, I noticed a loose leaf base. A little tug, and I screamed! 😱 An actual ring on the trunk was revealed. Just have to share. These palms survived toxic gasses from volcanic eruption, as well as the neglect of an absentee gardener. Oh! My heart be still! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
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One of my Beccariophoenix alfredii (16 years old since germination) growing in Tibagi , 2nd tableland of Paraná, southern Brazil
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Yesterday, we published a scientific paper that presents a major update to the taxonomy of Dypsis. This is the result of years of work both in the field and in the lab aimed at addressing the unwieldy nature of Dypsis and working out how it is related to other iconic Madagascar palm genera like Marojejya, Masoala and Lemurophoenix. We approached this work with some trepidation, fearful that our results would demand that we "sink" some of these genera, which are so dear to the hearts of growers. Fortunately, we have been spared that embarassment, but our DNA dataset (which is unprecedented in scale) has obliged us to make one major change. We have split Dypsis into three to ensure that the genera represent natural groups that are consistent with the evolutionary relationships that we determined from the DNA data. As a result, two "old" genera have been resurrected. We now have: Vonitra - the fibrous species Chrysalidocarpus - the moderate to very robust species Dypsis (in a narrower sense) - the small to moderate species We have worked hard to align morphology with the DNA evidence - after all classification has to be useful and usable. But this has been really challenging and some species just don't obey the rules. For example, Dypsis marojejyi remains in Dypsis, despite being robust. This is very inconvenient, but is also a really interesting biological finding, implying that robust life forms can evolve from within understorey dwarfs. You can read all about this in our paper freely accessible here https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/tax.12797 . This is a technical work, but you will still find much of it very usable, especially the Taxonomic Treatment section which includes a key to the genera and a checklist assigning each accepted species to the revised generic classification. We hope you enjoy it! Bill Baker on behalf of Wolf Eiserhardt, Sidonie Bellot, Robyn Cowan, John Dransfield, Lars Emil, Karolina Heyduk, Romer Rabarijaona and Mijoro Rakotoarinivo Fig 1 from the paper - Dypsis and related genera: A. Chrysalidocarpus lutescens, B. Marojejya darianii, C. Lemurophoenix halleuxii, D. Dypsis metallica, E. Masoala kona, F. Dypsis scandens, G. Vonitra fibrosa
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Pretty standard 1/4 acre. Lots of palm density. I left a few genus out of my list like Jubaeopsis and Polyandrococcos. Here are a few garden shots...
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As hard as you try, it is almost impossible to give that little one gal enough room when you first put it in the ground. It seemed like only yesterday for this Beccariophoenix alfredii.
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It gives me great pleasure to announce that I have submitted the manuscript for the long-awaited "Palms of New Guinea" book to Kew Publishing today. This will be the first detailed account of all 250 species from the New Guinea region and i t should really help all of us make sense of this last big black hole in our knowledge of palm diversity, as well as protecting it. It has been a labour of love spanning over 20 years for myself and my co-authors Anders Barfod, Rodrigo Camara-Leret, Charlie Heatubun, Peter Petoe, Jess Turner, Scott Zona and John Dransfield. Every species will be illustrated by beautiful line drawings by Lucy T. Smith, augmented by 100s of photos. We're aiming for a publication date of end 2023 - so watch this space folks. As a teaser, here's shot of the exquisite Manjekia maturbongsii from Biak, one of the amazing new genera to emerge from this work. Bill Baker, Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew
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I sold Palmpedia several months ago to someone who has the resources and passion to keep it going. It became too much for me alone to continue and provide the time and expense to do it justice. The new owner is an IPS Member, and a long time lurker on PalmTalk. He is a terrific guy, capable businessman, and a palm/plant lover. I think it is a good fit, and the future of the site is in better hands now that he is involved. Give him time, and I expect many more improvements. Thanks to all those who provided financial and emotional support during its creation and almost 20 year run so far. I too use the site often, and hope to for another 20 years.36 points
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Dave was generous enough to let me tour his garden the other day! Unfortunately, he wasn't present to give a personalized tour of the garden. Click Here for the complete list of photos with my attempted IDs. Feel free to chime in.
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This is my largest of 3x Tahina. please post yours with Dr Balasky for scale
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Good afternoon! Today I saw a Variegated Washingtonia in Tempe Arizona, in front of someone’s business. First one I’ve seen in person randomly around. Enjoy.
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Got an opportunity to stop by Jim's garden over the weekend. I enjoyed taking some of these photos, despite the difficult lighting conditions (bright highlights, dark shadows). Did a little post processing work to bring these photos to life. Hope you like them. Click the link to view the album. https://photos.app.goo.gl/GneVpq1VwwjRpdYr8
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In a prior forum post the growth rate of a Jubaea Chilensis was discussed by many and is highly recommended. https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/19995-the-explosive-growth-ofjubaea-chilensis/?&page=4#comments In 1989 I planted two Jubaea Chilensis that were 5 and 7 years old. The following 6 pictures and graph shows growth rate of one of those palms, with the first picture taken in 2006. I could not find earlier pictures between 1989 and 2006 as they are packed away someplace in the pre-digital age. The first 20+ years a Jubaea palms growth is slow with each new frond or leaf emerging slowly and just slightly bigger but holding on and staying green for many years. After about 20 years the Jubaea begins to change by rapidly increasing its leaf sizes while pulling nutrients out of its childhood leaves turning them brown and dead. This second stage of the Jubaea’s grow is pre-adult (teenager), where each new leaf gets increasingly larger and bigger and the base of the plant begins to swell sometimes lifting itself up exposing roots. If roots begin to show at this stage, soil can be placed around the base of the trunk to bury the roots as Jubaea tolerate fill up to a foot deep unlike other palms. Growth at this stage begins to increase significantly at perhaps twice the rate before. At about 33 years the Jubaea begins to grow an expanding trunk with increasing circumference causing the oldest leafs to break the fibers attached to the trunk allowing them to detach and fall away. This leaves a smooth trunk with leaf scars and numerous stretch marks as the Jubaea increases its growth rate again by a factor of two. The graph at the end shows a growth rate during the 40+ years of the Jubaea’s growth. The palm shown is now over 40 years old and adds about 18 inches of vertical trunk each year with expanding canopy. Observing the two Jubaea I have over the years, the bigger and faster the leaves and canopy grow, the bigger the Palm will be. Soil, fertilizer, watering and site conditions have considerable influence on the size of the Palm. The Jubaea has not yet produced fruit or nuts, but has been flowering for the last 9 years. The growth rate as shown on the graph is close to exponential and should begin to slow down during which it will taper its trunk. It is reported that a Jubaea will not fruit until it is 40, 50 or more years old and or begins a tapering trunk. If someone wants to grow a fast growing Jubaea, they are best to get one that is over 20 years old shortly before the palm starts its explosive growth and trunk.
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But I noticed it has "earned" the pet name I gave to Jubeas years ago when I first saw large trunking ones... Mine today.
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My favorite Archontophoenix by far (Archontophoenix purpurea). I grew these from seed. Looks like all three will be in flower simultaneously this summer.
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I have been growing many palm species from seed in the Arizona desert,for the last 25 years. Knowing that it takes me 15 years of growing under my extreme conditions just to produce a nice 5 gallon Coccothrinax,it was a no brainer to just pick this one up,when a local nursery brought in 18 of these old man palms. As of today,only 9 left... aztropic Mesa,Arizona
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I drove past a wholesale nursery south of Vero Beach yesterday with a section of Beccariophoenix alfredii. I know quite a few nurseries in Florida are field growing them now but I had never seen one. The most B. alfredii I have ever seen at one time.
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Here is my Hedyscepe canturburyana Grown from seed germinated in 2010 collected from Pogobob garden in San Clemente Ca. It's an easy grow in my cool humid oceanic climate record low in the garden 31f record high 96f
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Today is the Sunday before Easter, when Jesus rode into Jerusalem and people hailed his arrival by cutting leaves off palm trees and dropping them in the roadway. Hence Palm Sunday. I remember when I was a kid going to church and we'd get these little crosses made of what looked like leaflets from Sabal leaves, tied into a neat bow. But, here, every Sunday is Palm Sunday and wishing all of you a happy Easter. And a happy palmy Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. And, show us some palm pictures! We won't say too many palms, or palms're ugly . . .
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Gday everyone, well we’ve made the move from the Capital ( Brisbane ) upto cairns to start a new chapter and a new garden, anyways been catching up with friends here’s Harry’s place ( Fanpalm ) enjoy I’ve already posted on the fb palm page but happy to answer and IDs as I’ll just post pics for now
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This is me in front of @Matt in SD’s fat and happy Parajubaea torallyi torallyi and an even fatter Sabal.
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Many of you order from Floribunda, but mine was a relatively large order so I thought you might find it interesting to see my relatively large delivery. The reason it was large was because: 1) I'm completely redoing my yard front & back. 2) I like the "multiple" look with some of these. 3) My parents and sister would like some plants as well. 4) I'm paranoid I'm going to kill some of them, so ordered more than I need to "hedge my bets". Worst case I'll sell or trade the extra plants. Experience was same as has been described by others... Filled out the order form from website stock, got a call from Jeff to review the order (and get to know me), paid for plants before they shipped, and shipping/handling after they arrived (S&H was approx 35% of plant cost, which is fair considering most were in pots). Upon arrival I carefully unpacked the plants (which were packed amazingly well) and lined them up for their photoshoot. I used a ruler so I could track growth and measured the nicest plant of each type. Ruler was in 3-inch increments, measured from the TOP of the pot (not the ground). I'll post the photos here in case it's helpful for anyone else planning a Floribunda order (or "palm porn" for the rest of us). Night shots just to be different ;-) * If replying about a specific plant, try to include only that plant in your reply and delete the others (if you can). I'm curious if any comments. For me the "Pinanga Javana" was the biggest surprise (only 4" but HUGE). We repotted some of these already, and are excited to watch them grow over the years. Group photo: Bentinckia condapanna (1g): Burretiokentia vielillardii (1g): Chuniophoenix hainanensis (4"): Clinostigma savoryanum (4"): Cyphophoenix nucele (4"): Cyphosperma balansae (1g): Dypsis baronii (1g): Dypsis baronii “black stem” (seedlings) & Dypsis "lafamazanga" (seedlings): Dypsis lanceolata (1g): Dypsis leptocheilos (1g): Dypsis "maroantsetra" (1g): Dypsis onilahensis “weepy” (4"): Dypsis "orange crush" (1g): Dypsis pembana (1g): Dypsis saintelucei (1g): Euterpe edulis “orange crownshaft” (1g): Licuala distans (4"): Pinanga coronata (1g): Pinanga javana (4"): Pinanga philippinensis (1g): Pritchardia martii (4"): Verschaffeltia splendida (4"): Enjoy!
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Feeling so fortunate to have had the opportunity to visit this island!
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When I saw this, I thought I was going to need a pacemaker. In all my years looking at palm parts and pieces, I have never seen anything quite like it. John Hovancsek and I were going through the garden when I removed an old leaf sheath off this Dypsis basilonga only to reveal the first spathe since planting. In this case, a picture is worth much more than a thousand words. Tim
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After all these years I finally made a visit to Dave’s Jardin de Palmas. WoW! Beautiful specimens. I picked up 6 palms While there (3 C Radicalis tree form, Spindle, A. Maxima, Dypsis Lafamanzanga). A few pictures. Thank you Dave! Pritchardia Jubaeopsis Cafra R Oleracea with Chamies to the left. R Regia - I think this one has the moniker of "Spanky" ala Our Gang Licaula Tri-Bear Watermelon Massive Panoramic view Dypsis among the Chambeyronia
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Took the plunge. My first post in Palm Talk. Hope you enjoy it. Shout out to Cindy Adair.
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Just letting leafbases fall off, this one went into the ground august 2010 as a just going pinnate 3 gallon and was burned just about to the ground in the 2010 dec cold event with heavy frost(28Fx2 plus frost). The adirondack chair is 30" wide at the handrests. The distance from house to black fence at the border is 35'. that is about the width of the palm. This is one year out from hurricane IAN which spread out the previous more upright form. By comparison my 30' bismarckia is about 25' wide. I have two others planted same size same time in less than full sun and the are no more than 2/3rds the size of this one in all day sun. They do grow notably slower/smaller in shade it seems.
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I have been growing exotic plants for nearly 40years, on balconies, terraces and now, since 2016, I also have a garden, 50 km north of Rome, about 300 m distant from the sea. To give an idea about the climate, zone 9b, there were nice big Ficus elastica trees, some 5-10 m high, but they nearly all got wiped out by two consecutive winter freezes in 2017 and 2018. Some of the palms you will see were grown in pots on my terrace in Rome for nearly 20 years and then transplanted into the garden The garden was quite empty so except the Araucaria, these are all new plantings I really like King palms Bismarckia nobilis Jubaeopsis caffra Blooming like crazy, but no fruits Parajubaea, lost the spear after being planted and stayed for 2 years without any sign of life, but is resuming normal growth now Archontophoenix cunninghamiana and Brahea armata Beccariophoenix alfredii Copernicia alba Ravenea glauca Pritchardia hillebrandii Caryota obtusa A Brahea Another Bismarckia Rhopalostylis sapida Jubaea chilensis Caryota urens Brahea edulis A Sabal Dypsis decaryi Butiagrus nabonnandii Caryota ochlandra and Phoenix roebelenii
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Was meandering through the garden today when I noticed the Dictyocaryum had shed a leaf and was almost glowing blue.
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And today…
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Thought I might share a few pictures of my jungle!
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"You know you are a palm nut when..." - ... you have palm seeds germinating in your car's cup holder. - ... there are coconuts rolling around in the bed of your truck and you don't remember where you got them. - ... you take a palm book with you on a long flight. - ... you have a bucket of common palm seed in the back of your car, along with all the groceries. - ... you bring a wagon, wheel barrow, cart with you to a palm sale, along with a cooler loaded with a day's worth of drinks. - ... you take 75 photos of the same palm. - ... your pocket list of the species you have is replaced by a list of the species you want. - ... your pocket list of the species you want is replaced by nothing, because you have it memorized. - ... you've knocked on a stranger's door asking to collect seed from their yard. - ... you have given a palm as a birthday gift. - ... you have received a palm as a birthday gift. - ... you stop to identify a palm while riding your bike. - ... you bought a palm because it looked cool, only to find you have four more like it at home. - ... you have created your own style of hieroglyphic writing to identify the origins of all your palm seed via their tags. - ... you have a 1-gallon palm sitting within the rim of a 7-gallon palm which is sitting within the rim of a 25-gallon palm. - ... you need to use a flashlight to give a tour of your yard, at two o'clock in the afternoon. - ... the utility meter reader is scared to death of entering your property. - ... you've had to pull a dead animal from the spines of your heavily armed palm. - ... you've had to pull yourself from the spines of your heavily armed palm. - ... you have forgotten where you have planted a certain specimen. - ... you find a palm in your yard you do not remember planting. - ... you clean out the marginal area between your yard and your neighbor's only to find seedlings of ten different species. - ... after the garden tour, you need to draw a map to get the attendees to the exit. - ... the space between your potted palms has shrunk to zero. - ... the seedlings popping up in the yard, belong to a mature tree above, which was once a seedling itself, belonging to an even taller palm higher up. - ... you dream of palms, awake and while sleeping. - ... you can see the crown of your climbing palm and have no idea where it is planted. - ... you have generations of hybrid palms creating themselves in your yard. - ... you can't find the tags you used to label your palms, because they were replaced by another system of tags which you cannot find either. - ... your cold sensitive palms are better protected than your pets. - ... you have created a custom moving system to transport your oversized Red Sealing Wax Palm indoors and away from the cold. - ... you have no hot water because it's been diverted outside to heat your yard. - ... you have Christmas lights around your palms, weeks after December. - ... you talk to your palms and hope they don't talk back. I could keep going, but I gotta eat. Ryan31 points
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I badly wanted to cross the river to get some under canopy photos but couldn't face wet clothes for the long journey ahead. But finally I gave in and found a nice grove and went and got these photos. Jaw droppingly beautiful to be inside a grove like this with towering old Nikaus and their millions of offspring underneath. As observed / mentioned before - these have a very Howea Forsteriana look when under canopy.
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C. hovomantsina revealed the pale yellow band that will eventually turn green. The very next day, Lemurophoenix halleuxii dropped a frond to spectacular effect. Photos were taken within an hour or two of the event, allowing capture of the saturated colors. Got some color? Show it off here!
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Hi everyone, I’ve been here a while but never posted much just taking advice from posts and admiring other gardens and palm collections! I’ve been working on my garden now for 4 years, when we purchased the property it was full of dead almond trees and we had to get a tractor in to clear the plot and access the house. It’s still very young garden and being so big it takes some doing but I’m hoping it will start to fill in as it matures. I thought I would load some photos as it is now. If you would like to see the progress I have an Instagram account dedicated to gardening which is TropicalGardenSpain. Would love people to comment what palms I am missing here! Climate zone 10a we don’t have frosts but temperatures can drop briefly to 0c for an hour or 2 coldest nights in winter but days can be up to 15-20c and we have dry winters and summers. Watering the garden and keeping on top of it is the toughest jobs and one I will be tackling this year!
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I bought this as a 15 gallon palm. It came from seed collected from a specimen growing in the wild in Baja California. It has been in the ground for 15 years and I would guess that it's at least 20 years old total. Sabal uresana. When I planted it I did not expect it to get this large. The diameter of the crown is larger than a Bismarkia and is on par with Phoenix canarienis. I am 6'1" and 270lb for scale. That neighboring B armata seems miniature.
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This deserves an update! Since being planted at knee to waist high, the specimens pictured in the first post are now right at my head height, with some over my head (~6').....in only 20 months!!!!!!! They've been through: couple Tropical Storms frost on several occasions (light to heavy) 32F-35F multiple times Below 32F a handful of mornings (lowest is 27F) *three smaller specimens in the back are more recent additions to this grouping (added in Feb2020)
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I was overseas for a month and returned to a pleasant surprise !
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I noticed that the next biennial in 2024 is scheduled to be in New Caledonia, thus the inspiration. Don’t have a lot of species, but the ones that are in the garden are doing well. I notice frequent posts of Chambeyronia and Burretiokentia on the board, so feel free to add to this post. I’ll start with Basselinia eriostachys, which has become one beautiful little palm. The subtle color of the crown shaft, trunk, and inflorescence is always photo worthy. Tim
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Today, a new palm genus from Vitenam,Truongsonia lecongkietii, was published. This new palm is so peculiar that it required not only a new genus, but also a new tribe in the classification of palms (Truongsonieae) to accommodate it. Most extrpardinarily, its closest relative is the African genus Podococcus! It may be diminutive and unspectacular, but botanically it is even more remarkable than the discovery of Tahina (personal opinion, of course - I realise that this is heresy!) Unfortunately, only 10-15 plants are known in the wild, rendering it Critically Endangered. You can follow the link below to freely download the full article pdf, which is heavily illustrated for photographs. https://phytotaxa.mapress.com/pt/article/view/phytotaxa.613.3.1
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The late Richard Douglas, past president of the IPS.
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It was sometime in the early 80s when I saw my first Dypsis "Mealy Bug." The palm world was a buzz with a few new palms discovered and brought into cultivation, and showing promise for an ability to grow in more temperate climates. Difficult to find and buy, this palm epitomized the soon to be explosion of interest in the amazing palms of Madagascar and of palm growing and collecting in general. Fast forward 40 years and I never thought I would see the day where a beautiful example of this palm would pop up in a Lowes. Now it is in Hawaii, and it is labeled wrong as a "Dark Mealy Bug" (which is another rare Malagasy palm), but there are fewer rare palms growing here in Hawaii than are being tried in California and other marginal areas. So it still stuck me as somewhat of a milestone that other long time collectors might also appreciate.
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I germinated these from seeds in 2006. I can’t believe how cool they’ve turned out.
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This thing is loving the heat.
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As everyone knows, 2020 was a crappy year. Here in the states, the covid stuff in conjunction with the election meant every possible subject was divisive and polarized. I think it’s really cool that throughout - I’d come and read palmtalk and find a total absence of that. Throughout the year, I’ve seen photos of gardens and noticed Joe Biden or Donald Trump, Black Lives Matter or Blue Lives Matter signs in a small corner of the photo (by virtue of being in front of a home). I’ve noticed subtle comments that indicate that some people are conservatives and some are liberal. Some people appear to be afraid of covid, others frustrated more by government measures. Despite all of this, however, this forum has remained essentially neutral ground. We are here because we love palms and sharing our information and our passion. I know that if I don’t want to hear this side or that get riled up about something, and I just want to know more about cool plants I like and other people’s experiences growing them, I can come here to be free from that. It’s cool that there is this small group of people representing a fraction of the global population who is still cohesive over the things they love rather than the things that piss them off. This forum, the people who use it and the information contained within has been a real bright spot in an otherwise dark year. Figured I’d drop this thought here.29 points
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This is one of those Southern California winter days that’s so glorious it’s like a happy hallucination. Nice to get out of the house. Houses are really great, especially when surrounded by a palm garden. They’re really nice to live in, of course, but it’s also cool to be able to get up on the roof and reacquaint oneself with palms that have gotten tall. And, Happy Holidays to all! Here are the tall Teddy Bears, Dypsis leptocheilos.
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