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On rare occasions threads do get entirely deleted by the mods. Where do they go? Don't understand or not sure why "last nights" thread got deleted.

On the news this am before sunrise, there was a report of a fatal accident on Palm Ave. near where waykoolplantz has his property. Then they showed a gate that looks just like his destroyed. Has anyone heard from Mike? I sure hope he is safe!

Ryan (Palmarum) PM'd me. Never mind the question!

Scott made it Sunday!

Wow Peachy. It appears you are not alone. Actually it seems you have some very knowledgable palm people in your corner. We all push zones and conditions that are not always condusive. We all basically strive to give a palm enough variables that it has in it's native habitat and see what happens. I have been in the place you are in right now. We have to let go of what we are not in control of. The older I get the more I realize how little control we have in life, so just smell the roses when they bloom, replant when they die! Ron.

Dale - great to see you at the South Florida Palm Society Sale! Look forward to meeting up with you, Betty and Kitty at this sale. There is a great bunch of people at this sale and many PalmTalk members as well! Anyone else from PalmTalk planning on going??? Ron.

Jeff - Until you stopped him. Bill (BS Man) the purpose of owning a nursery is to propogate the palms and sell them to your customers so they can plant them in their own gardens! If Jeff planted every palm he liked at the Nursery, it would then be a Botanical Garden and he would have no room grow his babies. By the way Bill, have you run out of material to plant at your container ranch? Ron

Thanks for the ID. Here's another one that I dont have an ID of. I am guessing some cultivar of Agave Paryii

Gbrace, looks like your new agave is another variegated Agave Desmettiana. With more sun it will harden up and change shape. Nice Plant! Here is a pic of my Husky/gopher killer with a few Agave shawii

cant believe it took you this long to get to it!

Dear Ron...Wait i know that Kid ? That's a still of my son @ work during nights !!! love, kris It also looks like BS Man when Jeff Searle told him to stop planting so many rare palms at his nursery during the Spring Extravaganza! Ron.

I will be there with camera in hand as usual. I hope it will warm up finally and the mood to plant will continue to spread. I got a copy of the SFPS newsletter in the mail earlier today and have scanned and posted the sale list in tropical1's other topic in the For Sale subforum: South Florida Sale Ryan

I hope to be there with the Palm Hunters ( Greg & DeDe )

My impression is that S. palmetto prefers sandy soil to clay. Sure, it'll grow in clay, but if you look at them in North and South Carolina, those in the sandy soil outperform those in clay. Certainly Columbia SC and New Bern NC are colder than Gainesville and the S. palmettos look great in both places. If you want to see some nice pix of S. palmettos in cold places, go to www.garysnursery.com and look at his photos. Snow and freezing rain does cause problems. If the fronds bend under the weight, it's important to remove the snow or the fronds are likely to remain bent down. Sabal palmetto around Charlotte and Raleigh suffer this fate. Regardless, I don't think the observed lack of vigor is related to the temps. S. palmetto is pretty solid to at least 5-10F. In Columbia SC and Augusta GA S. palmetto withstood temps below zero in the 1980s.

Worm castings are great stuff! Don't use it in your pots because it'll create muck at the bottom. But put as much as you can afford around your plants. The cheaper route is to mulch heavily and let your native worms make the castings for you.

Is this the Jacket for the new Rollings Stones album, "Moosehead Soup" ?

I don't think anybody even cares! i see that you are correct,jeff. *

Your ranking is accurate, you did not receive any credit on the snarky content posts At least that is what Jeff Searle said.....

OMG, you guys are gonna have problems in Florida . You better stick close to Ken Johnson while you are hear.