COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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2023 USDA Plant Hardiness Zone Maps Out 1 2 3 4
by Allen- 6 followers
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OK OK we all know the zones have flaws, yada yada but look and see if your zone went up. Click on map or put in zip code for your plant zone. Mine went from 7A to 7B https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/ For noobs the plant zone is used to give a idea of what plants can be grown where you live and it is a 30 year average of the lowest temp recorded for each year. For example my zone is now 7B which indicated the average low over the past 30 years is between 5F-10F. But I had a -1F last year that also goes in that average and might kill some palms. Comparison of 2023 vs 2012 (Newest previous) Map
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yatay x jubaea F1 1 2
by sonoranfans- 2 followers
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I have this little yatay x jubaea F1 from patric shafer, probably from Dick Douglas Garden. It is showing signs of a yatay blueish tinge. This might be an advantage of this cross, but I have two and only one shows the blue at this time.... I don't need a palm this cold hardy, but I want it anyway, LOL! I will find a spot for it if I have to clear with a chainsaw, LOL! these are not so easy to find, I don't know anyone other than patric who offers this hybrid.
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Pushing the Zone in 9a 1 2 3 4
by Kailua_Krish- 2 followers
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Just thought I'd share a few photos of my yard in a low 9a North Florida. Sorry the photos arent the best but the lighting just wasnt working. Tell me what you think! First are my two "those wont grow there" palms Parajubaea sunkha Dypsis decipiens Attalea dubia foor good measure
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Fantasy Mule (Butia x Syagrus) Hybrids 1 2
by Alicehunter2000- 4 followers
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What combination would be your fantasy mule and why? What would be the thinnest trunked of both species? Feel free to share pics of some of the more unusual species listed. Limit it to only Butia and Syagrus species.......Jubaea, Allagoptera, Parajubaea, Coco's and Jubaeopsis are not the same animal and are not invited to this party. I pulled these off Wikipedia: Butia species Butia archeri Butia campicola Butia capitata Butia catarinensis Butia eriospatha Butia exilata Butia exospadix Butia lallemantii Butia lepidotispatha Butia leptospatha Butia marmorii Butia matogrossensis Butia microspadix Butia noblickii Butia odorata Butia paraguayensis But…
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Hi all, I found a seller on eBay offering seeds of Syagrus romanzoffiana var santa catarina. Have you had any experience growing them here? Is it too finicky with the heat requirement here? Thanks.
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Growth speed Butia yatay x Jubea vs Jubea x Butia yatay 1 2 3 4
by Love them palms- 7 followers
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I reviewed 3 seedlings from Patric a week ago one was a Butia yatay x Jubea and one was a Jubea x Butia yatay, plus a Butia x parajubea sunkha. Just kinda Curious between the first 2 which one is the faster growing, I live in the the PNW so hopefully they are compatible with my area,anyone have experience with these species?
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Cold hardy dypsis 1 2
by Mauna Kea Cloudforest- 1 follower
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We need a comprehensive list of cold hardy dypsis, and a list of dypsis that just wouldn't work in the cold so we don't wast time trying. I am going to give this a shot with this thread. Stuff that's already proven itself: 1. dypsis decipiens, 22F, actively grows in the 45-70F range - Norcal Sunset zones 9, 14-17 - Central Florida? 2. dypsis baronii, 28F, grows fast in 45-70F range - Norcal Sunset zones 16, sheltered locations in 14, 15, 17 - Central Florida? 3. dypsis ambositrae,27F?, grows fast in 45-70F range - Norcal Sunset zones 16, sheltered locations in 14, 15, 17 - Central Florida? 4. dypsis onilahensis, 27F? seems to grow in 55F+ range …
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Trachycarpus 'Manipur' 1 2
by sashaeffer- 3 followers
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Getting this beauty next week(one on left) and was wondering if anyone here had any growing experience with this palm long term. While I have 7 T. Fortunei in the ground here in my climate this one will remain potted(into larger one than shown) when I get it. It has experienced down to 14f in cold frame so far Anyone have one of these long term? Scott/Omaha USA
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Starting this thread for all the random palms I see around the Dallas area on a daily basis
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Phoenix dactylifera Hardiness? 1 2
by PalmTreeDude- 1 follower
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I heard that Phoenix dactylifera is hardy to zone 8b, is this true? For example, in this picture of the S.C. USDA zones would it do fine in all of the highlighted zone 8b areas?
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Here is proof windmill palms can survive the winter on Long Island
by islandwidepalmtrees.com- 2 followers
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Hi my name is Kevin and I am the owner of Island Wide Palm Trees, we are located on Long Island in New York. We sell palm trees as far south as Virginia and as far north as Massachusetts. Here is pictures of one of my customer's Windmill Palms that have survived the past 4 winters. This spring will be 5 winters. You can not ask for better then this. The best way to keep the trees alive is to have a good wrapping system. We have an amazing wrapping system that you can see on our website. https://www.islandwidepalmtrees.com and here is a link to our Facebook video we posted last year about these trees. (wrapping and planting is extra right now) …
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Trachycarpus Species List 1 2
by Alicehunter2000- 1 follower
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It has probably been done before, but could we get an updated Trachycarpus species list. Please list in order from least to coldest hardy with associated temps the species will first start showing damage, and also for the ultimate low one could reasonably expect survival with major damage.
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Jubaea x Syagrus growth in 5 1/2 months 1 2
by meteorologistpalmguy- 5 followers
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Hello All, In the spirit of keeping the end of summer chat lively, I thought I would post about my Jubaea x Syagrus that went into the ground here in Houston back on March 14th. I obtained it as a strap leaf plant from Patric in March, and when planted just had one pinnate leaf opening, and a base of the plant no thicker than a magic marker. Since then the palm has thrown pinnate leaf upon pinnate leaf and the base has fattened up to the thickness of a small soup can. No amount of humidity has seemed to bother this guy at all, nor has the Jubaea blood slowed it down at all. This hybrid has actually grown significantly faster than my two Butiagrus hybrids that wer…
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With the windmill doing pretty well, I am going to plant two bigger larger cold hardy palms. So some suggestions would be nice for what they could be and recommend especially because of my climate.
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Some cold hardy palms 1 2 3
by Jimhardy- 82 replies
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Starting out- some cactus too- Later the same year- That winter At night-Ice station zebra-what \ever that means-never saw the movie I am not as wasteful these days with electricity but it did look cool back than....I thought..
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My Jubaea X Butia F2 Hybrid 1 2
by Scot from SC- 1 follower
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I bought my hybrid from Jungle Music back in June of 2011. It was smaller, in a tree pot which I think might be a three gallon size. It has been in the ground for three years and two months. The growth of it is very fast. I would put it on par this year with a fortunei or faster. The trunk is really getting thickness to it.It is not only faster than a butia, but it seems to take less damage in the winter. It sailed through the coldest night here back in January; it dropped to 10F that night. I did have a frost cloth thrown over it, but it blew off sometime that night. The cloth was over halfway off, and the palm was exposed. I highly recommend this palm! Here are pictures…
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Jubaea X Butia F3 growth in SE NC 1 2
by Joe NC- 3 followers
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I purchased this Jubaea x Buita from Garry's Nursery in New Bern NC, in May of 2015. I mostly bare rooted it before planting, due to the extreme difference in soil texture in the nice porous potting media and my heavy clay. I've had to learn the hard way about amending clay soil, or creating mini-bogs out of large root balls and potting media. From what I can gather this is at least an F3 from seeds from the late Dr. Wilcox's palm. Since my family and friends think I'm crazy if I excitedly talk about my F3 hybrid Jubutia finally pushing a new spear, I'll stick to posting photo updates to it's progress here where there might be more interest. This plant barel…
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A hardy Charleston garden... 1 2
by Laaz- 1 follower
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Visited the good Doctor's garden today down in the historic section of Charleston. I'm really amazed at some of the things he is growing. He said he has never protected anything. Fruiting queen palm, two nice Acrocomia totai (Haven't produced fruit yet) Rhapis Excelsa, multiple Butia hybrid palms he acquired from the late Merrill Wilcox... A two story seed grown avocado...
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Palm Locations in Albuquerque
by pennerchris@gmail.com- 15 replies
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I've been in Albuquerque a lot lately, and have spent some time looking for palms, with no success. I've used some threads on other forums as my guide--users compiled a list of locations around the city. The list was from 2006, so I suspect some of the palms have died and been removed. Do any of you local guys know where I could spot some palms that are *currently* living? PS: I was able to find the legendary saguaro in the South valley... Unfortunately it's pretty dead. See pic.
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Exotic looking palms for zone 9a/8b? 1 2
by ShadowNight030- 2 followers
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Im on the border of zone 9a and 8b. The USDA map puts me in zone 9a, but I’d feel more comfortable with a palm that can handle at least 8b winters. To me windmill palms and needle palms are not attractive, so those are out the picture. I have a mule palm, but it’s not doing it’s best thanks to my dog who decided it would make a good chew toy. Does anyone have any suggestions for a palm with a little more of a tropical flare than say a sabal palm, but still hardy in my zone?
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Mazari Palm...anyone have any experience? 1 2
by jfrye01@live.com- 55 replies
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Just wondering, I'm trying to find this Palm and I'm wondering if anyone has any cold data on it?
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Sabal Uresana SE Hardiness 1 2
by yabazid- 5 followers
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So I am planning to plant a group of 8 7G sabal uresana's up here in Upstate SC. They will be planted in a linear line about 6-7ft space in between. I just wanted to ask you guys if this palm would be suitable. Is it cold hardy enough? Can it take the cold wet winters? Anyone around my area grow this palm? Other palm options would be: - Sabal Palmetto - Sabal Birmingham - Sabal Brazoriensis Any other option that is hardy for my area?
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Will 32F (0 Celsius) kill potted palms?
by jfrye01@live.com- 1 follower
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Well, since it's warm, and supposed to stay that way, I moved my Trachy and Pindo outside...Forecast showed the lows to be at least 35F-50F for the next several days. Anyway, NWS updated the forecast for tomorrow night, that 35 is now a 32...my question is, will this hurt my potted plants? they are on the patio on the Northeast side of my house...I wouldn't imagine 32 would do much damage, but I do remember reading freezing temperatures are much more hurtful to potted plants...I don't want to lug these big heavy guys back inside unless I have to...
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7A Mule progress over years 1 2 3 4
by Allen- 6 followers
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Progress of the 7A mule. Pretty happy with how it is doing so far. In winter it took some frond spotty damage but outgrew it by now. It went thru 9F in protection. 2017 2019 2020 2021 2021 Getting fat trunk Protection Method 2020
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Bismarckia in N Florida 1 2 3
by tank- 85 replies
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This one has been in the ground for about 5 years and was planted from a 3 gal that I grew from seed. It has seen temps below 20F and has never shown much damage. It is under a high pine canopy with overhead protection and a good amount of shade, hence its slow growth and presumably why it didn't show much damage during the several dips into the low 20Fs and upper teens. It is in my "palm compound" and is usually surrounded by potted plants. Was doing some spring cleaning and freed this guy up for a pic. Its about 6' overall and growing REALLY slow. I have never protected it.
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