COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Making use of septic system sprinklers.
by Ben OK- 9 replies
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Does anybody else out there take advantage of sprinklers from their aerobic septic system? Living in rural Oklahoma we had to install an aerobic septic system when we built our home. The soil here is a heavy clay, but with lots of rock in it. Because of the poor drainage of the clay, the system uses sprinklers to spray the treated waste water on the surface of the ground, rather than underground lateral drain lines in traditional septic systems. We get enough rain here that lawn irrigation systems are not very common, so the two sprinklers from my septic system get put to good use. I built a flower bed around one of the sprinklers and I planted Musa basjoo ther…
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Canary Leaf Opening, Pt. 2
by ahosey01- 6 replies
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A few weeks ago, I started a thread called “Canary Leaf Opening.” For 4-6 weeks after planting (from a 24” box), my new CIDP just kind of froze without growing or decaying. However, beginning a couple weeks ago, this thing has now gone on a growth rampage. It has fully opened two new fronds and half-opened a third in right around two weeks. There are also three spears inside the crown that I’m sure won’t take long to open, either. Just how fast do these things grow?!
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Date Crop Outside the Sonoran Desert
by ahosey01- 1 follower
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I am starting this thread out of a curious thought that came from a discussion in the climate forum. I am wondering if there are any commercially viable date growers in California or other areas, outside of the normal Sonoran Desert range. Typically, commercial date crops are harvested in four places in the United States: In the Hyder Valley in eastern Yuma County, AZ In the Bard Valley around Yuma In the Imperial Valley in southeastern California In the Coachella Valley (the big one) in eastern riverside county. Most likely, dates would also grow just fine in the Colorado River valley just south of Bullhead City, and in the Palo Verd…
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I have not that that much planting space and I don't want any of my palms to grow in too much shade. 1. Can I plant a Butia paraguayensis x Queen in front (south west) of a Phoenix Sylvestris? 2. How about a Brahea edulis in front (south west) of a Butia eriospatha? Will this work or would the Brahea eventually tower over the Butia or Mule Palm over the Phoenix? Climate-wise they would live in a semi cool Mediterranean climate (borderline Csb/Csa).
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cold hardy Sabal Minor volunteers in zone 6b
by ky_palm064- 1 follower
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Here are some pics of my volunteers. They're under 3 older parents, on a south-facing wall of an unheated garage. Starting about 5 years ago, I've seen more each year. They were under leaf mulch, but for the past 3 years they've been exposed.
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Cincinnati palms part 7
by donofriojim1- 1 reply
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I recently found another palm grower in my area. He lives near downtown Covington, Kentucky which is directly across the Ohio river from downtown Cincinnati. He shared with me a summer time pic and a dead of winter pic of his needle palm in his backyard that he planted in 2006 and is doing very well!
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Cincinnati Palms part 6
by donofriojim1- 6 replies
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I Know its been a while but I have some updates on palms in the Ohio river valley. I recently met a guy in Louisville, Ky who planted some needle palms and sabal louisiana in 2014. They have been growing against the foundation of his house completely UNPROTECTED despite EVERY garden center telling him that it couldn't be done. In fact the sabal louisianas are actually beginning to from trunks and volunteer seedlings are sprouting up through out his yard! He allowed me to come down to his house and dig up a bunch of seedlings that are over a year old and made it through last winter unscathed. The first pic is me standing among his palms. The second pic is the volunteer see…
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Washingtonia robusta or filifera???
by 2FAST2FURIOUS- 0 replies
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I recently bought and planted this Washingtonia, but I don't have a clue if it is a Robusta or a Filifera. The vender talled me that this is a Filifera, but I'm not really sure about that. The more information I get the more confused I become, PLEASE HELP!!! XD
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Washingtonia Identification
by PlantDad- 17 replies
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These Washingtonias are in front of someone's house in Salem, Oregon and are very healthy. I have never seen Washingtonia that look so good in this area. I am curious what they are. I was thinking robusta but I'm not sure. Thank you for the help.
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Chamaedorea microspadix
by ahosey01- 4 replies
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I am looking for a palm along an east facing wall in the lowest, coldest part of my yard (9a). It is under filtered light from a mesquite tree for the first 4-5 hours of the day, direct sun for maybe 30-40 mins, and shade the rest of the day. This is the area I am referring to: Was thinking Chamaedorea microspadix. Any experience with these in dry climates? I’ll water it plenty. If that doesn’t work, any other suggestions? Must be cold hardy, shade tolerant and not get super tall.
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Some Butia ID’s
by freakypalmguy- 1 follower
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Hey all, figured I’d throw these out again for fun and id’s sake. I know what I was told they were when I bought them, but wanted to see what the experts thought. These are all 15ish years old
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Hybrid with Armament?
by freakypalmguy- 1 follower
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Any of the hybrid gurus out there get any hybrids that grow with armament? I bought a plant from a very reputable hybridizer and it has grown with spines. It’s supposed to be Butia X Parajubea . Looks like Butia, but maybe a bit different, or maybe I just want to see a difference.
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Naturalizing Phoenix dactylifera
by ahosey01- 1 follower
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I have a large wash behind my house next to a highway, which is on ADOT property. It is completely overgrown with invasive plants - Tamarisk, Mullein, and Trees of Heaven - and Desertbroom. My thought is, if I'm going to have this ugly area of overgrown invasives, why not introduce something a little better looking and less noxious to the native flora than these plants? My family has been saving the pits from the dates we buy weekly. We probably have 200 at this point. I want to scatter them throughout the wash so hopefully they germinate and grow into palms. What time of year should I do this to ensure best results? How likely am I to be successful? The Hassa…
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I got a couple of canary island date palms starting to sprout has anyone had any luck growing them on Vancouver island
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Rhapidophyllum hystrix Heat Tolerance
by ahosey01- 10 replies
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I read tons of stuff about Rhapidophyllum hystrix being super cold tolerant. I really like these palms, and I have a big, empty wall along the south side of my house that could use some filling in. I'd like to plant a bunch of these in a line very close to the house to occupy the space. However - this is the Sonoran desert, I have a stucco house, and it is on the south side in the full, blazing sun. Will these palms take that kind of sun and heat reflecting off the building? Are they fast growers?
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Dactylifera Frond Boots
by ahosey01- 5 replies
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This morning I was trimming back some of the old, leftover frond boots on my Phoenix dactylifera when something happened which I have not experienced. Two of the frond boots, with no meaningful effort, ripped directly out of the trunk and left these big open spaces. Behind them, there is this fibrous dust that appears to fill the spot where they were. I have also noticed a faint musty smell, like a poorly ventilated, wet basement, coming out of the stringy fibrous material when I pull it away from the trunk. It almost seems like the trunk is rotting under these frond boots. Curious if anyone has experienced this or knows what it is or if it matters. None of th…
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Was it really my fault and will it survive? (Mule Palm)
by LivistonaFan- 4 replies
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I purchased a Butyagrus online in Spain and after 4 days in its parcel it arrived here. The leaf on the left and the spear in the middle each had a "white spot" (plant cells which cannot perform photosynthesis?) at the leaf base and they were extremely wobbly. I assumed that this was because of its time in the parcel as it certainly was warm and dark in there and therefore the palm could have pushed weak growth during this time. Furthermore it was in coco coir and had basically no roots which is why I have re-potted it very carefully in a slightly bigger pot with better soil. Due to a short heatwave which started the next day (37°C) the mule palm was in filtered shade beh…
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by Catalin- 1 follower
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I would like to know what palms can be grown in a Dfa border to Cfa climate with temperature ranges: January: the average maximum temperature is 36 F and average minimum temperature is 23 F ( rarely below 10 F but can drop to -4 F ) July: the average maximum temperature is 84 F and average minimum temperature is 61 F (rarely above 92 F)
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Cold Hardy Compliment to Palms
by VA Palmer- 1 follower
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I wanted to share my success with these Pink China (Colocasia esculenta) elephant ears to compliment my cold hardy palms in Zone 7A Northern Virginia. Having failed twice to overwinter Thailand Giants (Colocasia gigantea) I found these cold hardy Pink Chinas (from PlayitKoi). The larger ones are last year's reemerged and the smaller ones are all its pups. Come first frost last Fall, I cut them at the ground and covered them with a few inches of mulch. Come Spring, I slowly rolled off the mulch as the fear of late frost subsided and these guys popped like crazy. They need shade, so once my palms get big enough to make shade, I'll transplant some of these pups for aro…
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Chamaedorea radicalis drought hardiness
by LivistonaFan- 7 replies
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I have already asked this in a separate post but got no answer. Therefore I am now trying it again. Is this triple C. radicalis drought hardy enough to survive in a Mediterranean climate(not nearly as warm or dry as SoCal or inland Central/Northern California) in almost full sun without additional irrigation? Palms for California evaluates its drought hardiness as moderate, like Parajubaea Torallyi. And I am sure that a Parajubaea would survive there once established.
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What will my Butyagrus look like in the future?
by LivistonaFan- 6 replies
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I am curious how my Butia paraguayensis x Syagrus romanzoffiana will look like in a few years. Its leafs are very horizontally arranged compared to those of a normal Queen Palm. But nevertheless they differ greatly from those of Butia paraguayensis. I assume most mule palms are more upright than this one or am I wrong? Will it look more like a slender Butia or rather like a sturdy queen palm? Here is a photo the seller sent me to choose my palm (I still don't know why I took this one. Which one would you have picked?): Please feel free to post your Mule palm as a seedling and how it looks now. Maybe we can see a pattern what to look for to get event…
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Mediterranean fan palm browning/spots
by Kanianic- 7 replies
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Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this palm? There’s two others in same area it’s planted that don’t look this bad. It gets regular soakings and palm tree fertilizer every 2 months.
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I had 12 palm trees planted in my yard about 3 weeks ago. Within days 4 of the palm tree fronds started turning brown as well as the center bulb in two of them. The remaining 8 had some mild browning of the lower fronds as well. Need help on what to do next. I have gone around each bulb and pocked around with garden hoes and there was no obvious air pocket. I am watering them constantly using a drip system and every night creating a puddle of water using garden hoes. The fronds turned brown so fast that it was hard to believe.
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Different palm suggestions for Houston 1 2
by Keys6505- 2 followers
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Hi all, I'm new to the site and new to palms in general and was hoping that some of you would lend your expertise. I recently moved from NJ to TX and have a lot of interest in boosting my new palm collection. I live in League City which is about halfway between Houston and Galveston. I'm rated 9a but I averaged out the lowest temp in League City each winter over the last 10 winters (based on available online data) and I got 29.5 degrees which would be closer to a high 9b if I'm not mistaken(?). The lowest temp recorded here over that span was 20.3. My first order of business when I arrived was completely re-doing my yard with a pool and all new landscaping so I jam…
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https://www.google.com/maps/@35.855064,-86.4405,3a,26.4y,3.68h,94.39t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipPKECd-z8G3-XCvogALaUF-h48DDAoKGt_S17KV!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPKECd-z8G3-XCvogALaUF-h48DDAoKGt_S17KV%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya337.18-ro-0-fo100!7i10000!8i5000 So far the only street view available is November 2018. It has been through 2 winters and it would be interesting to see how these palms stood up. Judging from the stilts they look recently planted. The pool and the surrounding concrete look like they create an excellent microclimate. I could see these making it through a freeze down to potentially 0F when they're full…
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