COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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The trunking Jubaea of Roseburg Oregon 1 2
by Cody Salem- 1 follower
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I was digging through my phone and found this pics that I took around thanksgiving last year. They have probably been in the ground for 15-20yrs. They took a pretty good hit in the 09-10 winter and lost some big washies next to them. These photos don't really do justice to just how massive those trucks are. They must be almost 3 feet in diameter.
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Comparing Growth Rates of Various Sabals 1 2
by Scot from SC- 4 followers
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I hope that this topic has not been exhausted in some thread that I missed. In addition, I know that location and amount of rain/water, among other factors, affect growth rates. We all know that Sabals love heat, and most would agree that without necessary summer heat, even in an area with milder winters, Sabals can decline or stall out so to speak. Let's assume that the growth rates are based on most of the zone 8 and up areas of the southern United States. I would love to see data from other areas, but I have to go with what I know. My question is, how would you rank popular Sabals in terms of speed of growth. I know the old adage that "The first year they s…
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What are the biggest Sabal palm species? 1 2
by SailorBold- 3 followers
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Ranked in order?
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Trachycarpus fortunei after 2.5°F and 3.5°F 1 2
by tjwalters- 40 replies
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After consecutive nights of 2.5°F and 3.5°F, with a daytime temperature around 14°F in Bowie, MD USA. All in all, not too bad considering these were not protected at all. Palm 1: Palm 2:
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Palms in northern mediterranean - 1450 ft a.s.l. 1 2
by LivistonaFan- 40 replies
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Hello, I planted the following palms in an olive grove: Butia eriospatha Chamaerops humilis var. 'cerifera' Jubaea Chilensis Livistona Chinensis Phoenix Canariensis Rhapis excelsa more will be planted in the next years, but primarily I have to check the cold hardiness zone (I will install a weather station soon to check the winter lows). I hope the lows in the coldest winters will at least be >18 fahrenheit
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Windmills in the Bronx 1 2
by bronxboynyc71- 1 follower
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Hey all, new to this site & just acquired a green thumb. My name is Robert, and I live in the Bronx, NY. looking to learn all I can about cold hardy palms. Just recently planted 3 windmill palms in my yard. They where purchased from chillypalms. My hardiness zone is 7b. Kinda in a microclimate!! I guess? Advice & criticism is welcome. Good luck to all
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Sabal 'lisa' 1 2
by ahosey01- 1 follower
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Maybe I suck at using this forum - but I searched for this palm and couldn't find jack. Anybody got any info they'd like to share? Any photos of one growing? Any experience growing them in a dry climate or hardiness reports? I have a few more spaces for palms in my garden and have a few ideas of what to plant. Think this might be one of them. Would be great any info anyone has to share.
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Butia Yaytay x Jubaea in Raleigh NC Zone 7b 1 2
by knikfar- 3 followers
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Finally got my butia yaytay x jubaea in the ground today. I know I'll have to protect it from cold at some point. But I hope its able to still grow big and strong.
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Anyone Have Information on Trachycarpus Princeps?
by Scot from SC- 2 followers
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Does anyone have information about Trachycarpus princeps? I have heard various temperature thresholds for this palm, and I am assuming that they are prone to spear pull when young like fortuneis. I have fortuneis, waggies, and one takil so far in my Trachycarpus collection and wanted to expand. Thank you in advance my palm tree friends.
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Trachycarpus sp. 'Nova'
by tjwalters- 2 followers
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I've been seeing references to this "new species," but nothing official. There is no mention of it on the Kew site. Does anyone have information on its official status?
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Mule Palm Experiment
by sevapalms- 1 follower
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5 years ago, before I knew much about palms, I got a mule palm as a 2 leaf seedling. I read that they were hardy to zone 8a, and given I am in that zone, I thought it would be a good choice. I did not realize that many mules do not survive zone 8a winter temperatures, and definitely not record lows in my area. I decided to plant it anyway last week, and protect it when temperatures reach 18-19 degrees, which happens a couple of times in a typical winter. The soil in my area is extremely poorly draining clay, so I decided to plant it in a mound. About 1/4 of the rootball is below the normal soil level. The reason it is hurricane cut is because of a fungal issue. …
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the best cold hardy gardens
by Mauna Kea Cloudforest- 2 followers
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It would be nice to consolidate the best cold hardy palm gardens, that would be anything outside of Southern California and Southern Florida. 1) Jim Denz garden in Los Altos Hills, Bay area: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/30471-jim-denz-garden/?hl=%2Bdenz+%2Bgarden 2) Darold Petty garden in the Sunset district of San Francisco: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/19560-darold-petty-garden/?hl=%2Bdarold+%2Bpetty+%2Bgarden http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/38108-san-francisco-pra-rhopie-and-ceroxylon-country/page-2?hl=%2Bdarold+%2Bpetty+%2Bgarden#entry610888 3) Edith Begstrom Garden in Atherton, Northern SF Peninsula h…
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Cold is Coming to Ottawa!
by SALOttawa- 2 followers
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We are about to get some of that Arctic air mass in this coming week. It’s a mixed bag coming with some milder days as well but we will be getting down to -25 degrees Celsius which is -13 F. The following week, we won’t see the extreme lows but our highs won’t be anywhere near getting up to the freezing mark! This will be a test for my winter protection of my Mexican Fan Palm! This is my first winter attempting to keep a palm outside. You can check out my winter protection method on my YouTube videos
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This is my 10 year oldish Kashmir Mazari. If you look up at the top of the fronds, you can see a giant inflorescence snaking it's way up top. It's the first meristem to go to flower. Also, just to the left of my friend Juan, you can see my avocado tree that supports three varieties through grafting. Pretty cool to have a fruiting avocado north of I-20.
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Quiz, which Livistona would eventually outgrow the other?
by Phoenikakias- 1 follower
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If one plants to close two juvenile palms one decora and one australis in a warm mediterranean place (meaning that during actual growing season is dry without artificial irrigation and cool to cold winter) which of them would predictably outgrow some time the other one?
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I planted 4, 3 gallon Sabal minor's today in an area that I am raising for erosion and flood control. When I began digging, I noticed that the dirt was made up of primarily earth worm castings and composted leaves. You can see an earth worm in the second shot, but not so clearly in the first. I used about 2 handfuls of garden soil for each planting, but it is looking like a good start. Now, to plant some Sabal uresana's next week. BTW the cat is alive and is just taking his siesta.
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Sabal Palmetto or Sabal Mexicana for Texas
by MarcusH- 3 followers
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I can't decide between S.Palmetto and S.Mexicana. I'm not worried about the cold hardiness since I'm in 8b/9a . I know the Mexicana grows a bigger canopy but I'm afraid it could grow too big . Which one is faster growing ?Which one would you prefer for SoCen TX climate ?
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Germination Help
by Borderzoner- 1 follower
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I am in the process of germinating p. dactylifera (from medjool dates), p. roebelenii, s. romanzoffiana, and jubaea chilensis. First I soaked all seeds in tap water around 70F for a couple days, changing it as needed. Then I set them out to halfway dry at air temp for about 8 hours. Then I put them all in water with some 1% peroxide for 2 days, at about 75-80 degrees. Today I just set them in moist paper towels at room temp ( about 70F).. the point of all of this presumably was to help break down germination inhibitors and saturate the seeds. I didn't want to boil them or anything.. but now they are awaiting further action! In the past I have had pretty poor …
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The Search
by ahosey01- 1 follower
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Since moving here, I’ve had a spot in my front yard which I believe is perfect for a P. canariensis x reclinata (or vice-versa) cross. I want a multi-trunked palm with canary crowns. I acknowledge this is going to be a messy palm, and I may just die of impalement during the trimming process. I also acknowledge it will be hard to find, and when I do find it - a decent one will be a lot of money. That said - I can envision the aesthetic in my mind. It’s the right palm for the spot I have. I wanted to start this thread as a little journal of my attempts to find this palm. So far, I have had several forum members offer seed that they think would foot this bi…
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Germinating Rhapidophyllum seeds
by DoomsDave- 2 followers
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Howdyall! Got a whole bunch of Rhapidophyllum hystrix seeds from a fellow Palm Talker, and they were planted and how long before they germinate? This is a cool palm for cold places, and I'm going to try to spread a little Palmy LoveTM to Ohio and beyond. All thoughts appreciated!
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Planting a Pindo now?
by JohnT- 1 follower
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Hello everyone, I live in Wilmington North Carolina which is a solid 8A. I came across someone selling some Pindos for some great prices. He assured me they came from Florida and are in good health. My main concern is if it’s a bad idea to plant one now in the fall season and heading into winter? My gut tells me that I should wait until the spring time but what do y’all think? I’ve been really diligent with watering my new palms that I got this spring and they are really healthy. Should I take the risk? I’m thinking about heading to check them out in a couple of hours today so I would really appreciate some feedback as soon as possible. https://wilmington.…
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Area Of New York City in zone 8a according to Wikipedia?
by MonkeDonkezz- 3 followers
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Hello PalmTalk! There is going to be a short introduction first. My name is Yahor though I prefer you call me by my username and I am from Staten Island, a borough of NYC. I don't feel comfy telling people my age, but I am 12-16 years old. I first got my interest in palms when visiting Jacksonville Florida last year. I want to start growing them. So the reason I am making this post is something that has caught my eye for a while. According to Wikipedia, on the page about NYC's climate, the climate data graphs and classifications section show that areas of NYC might be in zone 8a. LaGuardia has 11 F (-12 C) as the minimum for January. …
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Promising news for Beccariophoenix alfredii cold tolerance
by Xhoniwaters1- 1 follower
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This shows new growth from my Beccariophoenix alfredii which completely defoliated and spear loss from 4 nights into the 20's this past winter. It had ZERO protection and was completely exposed in my yard during the first and ultimate low of 21 degrees. We had freezing rain and sleet in one duration. I covered it with a large pot with that event to protect the growth point as well as one event with a low of 23. I dug it up a potted it just recently before I saw the new growth. Good news for those who live in zone 9a who want to believe this palm is possible. Before the freezing weather hit, it was about 3' and healthy.
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Growing palms in z7 NC - trials and tribulations
by NCpalmqueen- 3 followers
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I've been growing palms in the ground here in the piedmont of NC for nearly 20 years and have tested all possible species and variants (and sizes) that money can buy. My observations about Sabals, Washys and others from my locale are as follows. (I did not want to hijack an existing thread.) This doesn't mean that you would get these same results in another 7b...there are too many factors that affect long-term viability (microclimates, health of the plant, management of the plant, winter wetness, winter harshness, protection methods, etc.). All of my first set of comments are about palms that were not protected during NC winters. I do believe that a lot of my fai…
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New Jubaea delivery in the UK
by benbaron- 1 follower
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Hi all, Hope you like my new addition....
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