COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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New member in New Jersey seeking advice
by GASguy- 1 follower
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Hello New member and first time posting. Last spring I planted 3 palms from PDN Nursery 2 were rated more or less hardy for my zone and 1 was more of a gamble. The gamble Sabal miamiensis looks rather dead. The others Trachycarpus fortunei 'Dwarf Delights' and Trachycarpus fortunei 'Bulgaria' seemingly sailed through the winter beautifully apart from the rabbits eating the leaves from time to time. Even a few weeks ago the new growth appeared green and healthy. Today the spear on Dwarf Delights was brown and dry and pulled out easily, it was no longer attached. The rest of the plant is green and healthy and the trunk is firm . I have seen so…
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So far so good 1 2
by DTS- 2 followers
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This is the first year that I’m not going to protect my needle palm until it gets too cold for it So far, a cold event brought it down to 18 degrees, and it’s currently 29 out. No damage at all on it so far. Tonight it’s supposed to get down to 19f, so it will go through basically the same temp twice. Also, I forgot about these little Washingtonia and Sabal seedlings behind it, so far the Sabal Causiarum has less damage than the Washy hybrid. Already know that they probably aren’t going to make it to next year but I guess It see how far they can go.
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Will this need to be protected below 25F? This looks to be a zone pusher for me, but I felt like taking a chance since I have always wanted one:
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Brahea edulis-Cold Hardy?
by SM458- 23 replies
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Is Brahea edulis cold hardy? My area is 8A. My area grows Washingtonia palms, Canary Palm, Date Palm, Mediterranean Fan Palm just fine. I’ve seen only one armata grown here. I think people here are not attracted to the desert look of Amarta though.
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Sabal Mexicana Spacing
by WacoPalm- 1 follower
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I have a couple of Texas Sabals arriving today that I need to get in the ground. I want them to create a natural privacy barrier. What would the appropriate spacing be to keep them close but not overlapping the crowns? 15' trunk to trunk? 20'?
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Suggestions on fertilizer
by Ltapia- 8 replies
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Anybody have any experience with these fertilizers Osmocote and Palm gain which works better for my location dry and hot I am growing windmill palms and filiferas im in the SW desert area with sandy dirt ?
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According to NWS North Texas: coldest temperatures since the Arctic Outbreak of December 1989*. (*Possible...)
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Clustering Palm ID? (Central Texas)
by Dwarf Fan- 4 replies
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In-N-Out burger in Killeen, Texas after the freeze of 2021 replaced all their fried Mexican fan palms with Sabal Palmettos. I was in the drive-through today and I noticed a clustering Palm that looks like it could be a Sabal… (I thought maybe a Nannorrhops ritchiana but that is way too obscure right maybe a Sabal minor?!?) I am guessing it isn’t anything too exotic but I was just checking to see what you guys think this is? (The smalls clustering Palm in the foreground.)
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Canary Island Date Palms in Zone 8B
by HiltonHead2004- 0 replies
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Any tips for growing a Canary Island Date Palm in Zone 8B?
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Help IDing these palms
by gdumea- 4 replies
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Good morning, Bought these palms at a greenhouse an hour north of me for a surprisingly cheap price, about $25 a palm. I know two of them are windmill palms. I'm not sure what the one that looks like a date palm is. Could you all please help me ID this palm? Tips for growing trachies would also be appreciated, one of my saplings had spear pull and died this winter, the other had spear pull but seems to be staying green, I did the whole fungicide treatment. It has some black fronds though. Tips would be appreciated, as I'm new to all this. Dry Zone 8a in New Mexico for reference. Thank you!
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Palm Species Recommendations for Zone 7b/8a
by Kuzey Işık- 1 follower
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Hello! I'm in USDA Zone 7b/8a border with Köppen Csa-BSk borderline climate, with rainy (sometimes snowy) winters and dry-hot summers. There is also a high risk of thunderstorms in spring and early summer. Average annual precipitation is around 400 mm. I have never seen any unprotected palm trees in my city other than several Trachycarpus fortunei specimens. (One of them died in the summer because of drought) Also, garden centers sell Trachycarpus fortunei in their indoor plant sections. I have one Trachycarpus fortunei in my garden unprotected, in a large pot. It survived 3 winters. I plan to plant it in ground asap. Do I stand any chance to grow palm trees? Which …
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Sabal x Brazoriensis seeds
by Stefanus- 2 followers
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Hi all, I finaly managed to get hold of some Sabal Brazoriensis seeds but I wasn't expecting them to be this large. I've only germinated S. Minor and "Lousisiana" before and I've never had them this size. Can anyone confirm that Brazoriensis has such big seeds? Picture below shows the seeds next to Sabal minor seed. Thanks in advance! Stefan
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7A Mule progress over years 1 2 3 4
by Allen- 6 followers
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Progress of the 7A mule. Pretty happy with how it is doing so far. In winter it took some frond spotty damage but outgrew it by now. It went thru 9F in protection. 2017 2019 2020 2021 2021 Getting fat trunk Protection Method 2020
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Trachy Nainital male inflorescences
by WSimpson- 0 replies
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This is the view outside my window . I thought it looked fairly dramatic with those yellow inflorescences . This palm would be a lot fuller if that 1 cold snap winter before last hadn't zapped it good . Should start trunking again now that it has a relatively full crown . Will
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Real Good Looking Cold Hardy Palms
by jvblack930- 35 replies
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Hello, I recently visited Florida and I was inspired. I saw all the beautiful Palm Trees, and I wanted one for my home in Memphis. I have some experience with plants, but not much. I was researching what Palms could live here, and I found this site as well with all the information, but, the trees that are options were not good looking at all. Windmill Palm is the worst looking Palm tree I have ever seen, Needle palm looks like a bush and Dwarf Sabal Palm looks weird, and so does Jelly Palm. The only one I might think about is European Fan Palm. But, my real question is, I want some real good looking palms like the tall ones in Florida with nice fan leaves or the feather o…
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Queen palm growing in southern NC
by Alex Anthony- 12 replies
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Not sure if I got the image to load but this is a pure Queen palm in Wilmington,NC. I bought it at HD in 2012. It has lived indoors in various pots and locations until we moved here 4 years ago and planted it outside. It has survived winters on the south side of the house with the usual Christmas lights and wrapping on the coldest ( 19 deg F ) nights. It is impossible to protect the fronds so they burn extensively but come back as the weather warms. It is as high as the top of the roof now and the trunk is huge at the base. I'm posting it because I think it's notable for it's size at this latitude. The other two large plants are an Angel Trumpet and a Robusta that was ab…
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Sabal Bermudana sprouts
by JohnAndSancho- 2 followers
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My plan was to check this baggie and ask y'all when I should pot them up, but I guess the answer is uhhh, now. A couple of them have poked holes in the baggie. I've read these want deep pots - would a gallon jug with the top cut off be adequate for a while? Would 2L bottles be better as it'll be a hair taller? How many should I throw in per bottle? These sprouted REALLY fast, just threw some sphagnum in a baggie, dropped the seeds in, threw them on the heat mat.
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Arenga engleri 9a success
by Tropicdoc- 1 follower
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About 8 feet to tallest frond. having to cut it back at times. Partial canopy. Been below 20 F a few times now.
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Trachycarpus WagnerianusXPrinceps 1 2
by Aldert- 2 followers
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For some years I was trying to make this cross. After being hold up by some one who had the Princeps male flowering for some years already, I finally succeeded in pollinating my Waggy with pollen from a dutch palm enthousiast. The result off sowing some seeds in January, is so far two seedlings. I think that the seeds behave as the true Princeps, a few will germinate in the first year, and the others the years to come.
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Sabal sps?
by Quincy John- 1 follower
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This is a population of palms found mainly around a cypress pond and its drainage. It is present on the surrounding hills too but the oldest trunking palms are by the water. It looks like a the tallest Sabal louisiana I’ve seen, but seems too costapalmate. It is at least a naturalized population. If it’s not native, they must have been planted many decades ago. How long does it take for S. louisiana to trunk in the understory? What do you think? This is north of I-10 in Jefferson county Florida well north of the coast where you find native Sabal palmetto.
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Jubaea or Phoenix, which one is hardier? 1 2 3 4
by MSX- 4 followers
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Hello everyone! I've heard from many so many sources that Jubaea chilensis is the hardiest of all pinnate palms. Lately, I've been browsing Dave's Garden, and according to it Jubaea is hardy to zone 8b, while lesser known Phoenix theophrasti is hardy to 7b. There is 1 zone difference, too much for a statistical mistake. I created a quick summary Excel chart with the hardiness info of some popular cold-hardy palms from Dave's Garden web site. And I have two questions to our comminity now - how reliable is information from Dave's Garden web site, and if choosing between Jubaea and some Phoenix species, let's say Phoenix theophrasti for example, what would be a better choice…
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Palms around Lake Norman North Carolina
by Mr.SamuraiSword- 1 follower
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Last summer I visited the northern part of Lake Norman, and was surprised at the large number of palms in the area. I always thought north of Charlotte and you might see occasional windmills, but I found a surprising number of other palms too. These are all in Western Mooresville (near where 150 goes to the bridge) and Sherrills Ford. Heres a video i made showing some of these, as well as more I couldn't get good photographs of. By far the most popular was windmills, on some roads they were the sole palm used, some look like they've been there a while. Next up, the Sabals. Surprisingly I found a fair number of mature establ…
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Where to buy mail order needle plams?
by mraroid- 1 follower
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Hello... A year or so ago, I found a mail order place in the mid west (maybe the east?) someplace. They sold needle palms, Windmill palms and some Sabal minor palms. I bought a needle palm and a Sabal minor. Now I need to buy a few more. But I can not find this palm nursery again. The prices were fine and they sold healthy palms. I live in Salem Oregon. Can anyone here refer me to this palm nursery? All they sell palms and, and just a few diffrent types. Any links or help appreciated, mraroid, Salem, Oregon USDA Zone 8 or 8b depending on who you talk to. Thanks so much.
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Hello folks... I live in Salem Oregon, USDA Zone 8b. I made my first trip to Raintree tropical nursery this morning. I took some cash and my checkbook. I was not sure what I wanted, but I hoped that I could buy some larger palms, rather than some in one gallon pots. I am 73 years old, so I don't have thirty or forty years to plant a smaller palm and watch it grow. I met Steve and what a nice person he is. I ended up with a 5 gallon Trachycarpus wagnerianus, and a five gallon Sabal minor. I told Steve I would be back when I had more money. I wanted to buy a larger Jubaea chilensis & maybe a Butia odorata/capitata. But the size of pa…
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Nice color on Syagrus romanzoffiana
by Fusca- 10 replies
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Spotted this at a local big box store yesterday. Not an unusual palm but unusual color on the leaf bases! I've never seen this much color on a queen palm before. The fronds look normal - in fact everything about the palm looks typical except for the color. It was the largest and most beefy of the entire lot so it really stood out.
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