WEATHER / CLIMATE
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Climate Navarre beach
by Tropicdoc- 5 replies
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Anybody on here know what kind of lows Navarre beach gets? Is there any benefit to all of the water?
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I know there have been similar topics discussed on Palmtalk in the past. My recent visit to the Miami area, however, has compelled me to want to explore it further. It is usually stated and written that South Florida's climate is subtropical. I would argue that extreme South Florida (and at the very least the coastal Miami/Ft. Lauderdale areas) has a fully tropical climate. Note, the FL Keys tend to be considered truly tropical already, so I won't include the Keys in this discussion. I contend that, based on my first-hand observations of the area's vegetation and weather, as well as climate data available, extreme SE Florida meets all different definitions of a…
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Climate of the United States 1 2
by NC_Palms- 65 replies
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I created my own climate classification map, since I find the majority of the other ones flawed. With the creation of this map, I considered both temperature and flora of a region. Please feel free to add your own 2¢. Cool Temperate Deciduous/Mixed Forest: Cold winter and mild summer climate. Occupies the Northern tier of the country from New England to California. Eastern Section is predominantly mixed while the Western section is more coniferous. Warm Temperate Deciduous/Mix Forest: Cold winter and a hot summer climate. Located south of the cool temperates. More Deciduous than the cool temperates except in Southern NJ, Long Island and in the piedm…
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Climate Standard Deviation
by Xerarch- 4 replies
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I think the standard deviation of a climate is an important consideration when analyzing its' characteristics. I've never seen anyone directly mention standard deviation as a factor but I think we all know the potential implications, not all zones of the same type/number are created equal. Consider Brownsville Texas, a zone 10a, similar to much of central coastal Florida right? But the all time record low in Brownsville is a whopping 12* F! That's 8a, two full zones lower than average, if you were to actually plot out all the lows I image in you would get a wide deviation in general. On the opposite end of the spectrum, consider Key West Florida, a zone 11b. The all…
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climate zone changes?
by Jimbean- 9 replies
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I was talking to a plant nursery owner today and he told me that all of the climate zones were moved further north as of about two weeks ago. So I looked it up and sure enough my once 9a/9b officail climate is now 10a. http://arborday.org/media/Zones.cfm Do they just don't expect a major freeze to happen here agian or what?
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Climate zone of San Francisco
by Tony from Europe- 6 replies
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I'm interesting for know what climate zone is in S.F and how is his climate? Thanks Tony
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climate zones for europe help
by bukezi- 2 replies
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Hi all,can someone tell me a site with reliable information about climate zone in europe because according to some statistics for the last 3 years in my area the temperature is not falling below 5F and that is far above the zone 6b what i find...thanks a lot!
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Coachella Valley / Deep Canyon Winter Lows
by ahosey01- 0 replies
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If you follow this link and click the historic data for “Boyd Center,” which is a research station up the hill south of Palm Desert, you will see that - far from the heat island - winter lows average 51 degrees Fahrenheit! https://deepcanyon.ucnrs.org/weather-data/ This is the location of the research station: This is situated in topography similar to La Quinta, although the valley in La Quinta is a little wider and lower and is not at the mouth of a canyon. However, it may help explain the presence and survival of the La Quinta coconut palm. I don’t think there’s another place in the U.S. with the same combination of average summer highs around 105,…
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The winds feel like a blast furnace right now. I left my office and went to check 1 of 3 thermometers in the yard. I was shocked to see 102F and the thermometer is not facing the sun, and has a little shade from a palm, although its otherwise a very exposed area of the yard. Curious I went to the one under my patio cover, it was 99F in the shade. I went around to the third one which is in the shade, very low to the ground in an area that heats up the least in my yard..... 98F. I don't remember ever seeing my thermometer's go over 100 here or in my previous home in the area. I checked a couple of other nearby weather stations which are right on the beach (I'm a few s…
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Coastal SE Zone Map
by clinenotklein- 1 follower
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The Florida thread inspired me to do one here based off of a happy medium between 1991-2020 averages, personal observation, (which made me do higher or lower in certain areas), and some educated guesses from trends in how the lines go from known areas to fill it in. Definitely in agreement with a narrow band of 9b above Florida and it probably terminates in extreme coastal Charleston County, SC. https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1HHQbCcLVZkxooXPD1H4XC1oWRV8TPbA&fbclid=IwAR0_wNWuCvzHHCzeflSoTdT8MKzZpqR1PyCtRlO7T3KTqyDauBBuBiM5KlU&ll=31.325495808975415%2C-80.68797249999999&z=7
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Always looking for suspected climates that may support Cocos nucifera at greatest latitude from the equator. We know the Newport Beach, California Coconut at 33/37 North was the certified specimen in the northern hemisphere until it’s demise. No update on the status of the La Quinta Coconut at 33/6 has been provided. The Corona California Coconut needs to be genetically tested to confirm that it is not an interesting hybrid at 33/87. Port Elizabeth, SA at 33/99 is said to have specimens of Cocos nucifera. Although no pictorial evidence has been presented, a review of its climate and understanding of unique warmth in the surrounding water makes it a real possibility. …
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Coconut Palm - Strange Dead Rash Pattern?
by Hempress- 1 follower
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Hello! I have a problem with my coconut palm trees as they are developing a dead, lace-like rash (brown dead spots/blotches - not bugs) in a consistent pattern on the fronds. It started when the nights began getting colder in Silver Springs, Florida (Zone 9b) last week 10/20/22 (43 degrees). The only reason why I think it MIGHT be chill damage is because it began at this time. I don’t think it is a fungus because the spots are not watery, blurry or bleed to yellow/dead, but are more sharp, embedded and consistent in pattern. (see pics?). It doesn’t really look like a Manganese or Potassium deficiency and if they were sunburned wouldn't the end/tips and certain areas be m…
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Coconut Palm in Sarasota, FL?
by Emarohl- 1 follower
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i just moved to Sarasota and am starting to plant trees in the backyard. I recently bought a small coconut palm maybe about 2-3 feet tall and planted it outside in our yard. I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts or advice on a coconut palm growing here. I know they aren’t very cold hardy. Our house is less than .5 miles from the Sarasota bay and west of highway 41. The yard gets plenty of sunlight and has good drainage. Will it be too cold for it to survive? Can I cover it in cold snaps to keep it warm? Coldest it got this year in our area was 38 deg. According to maps online we are right on the cusp of 9b and 10a. Wondering if anyone in the area had experience with…
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Coconuts Possible?
by Don_Licuala- 1 follower
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I was looking at a new climate map that showed SE California as z10. It is interior, low desert (Imperial County?). Is it possible to grow Cocos nucifera there?
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COLD MORNINGS!
by gsn- 22 replies
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BS in another thread made me think of this phenomenon! It seems just before sunrise is the coldest part of the night most times. I was wondering if anyone knew why the coldest part of the night was about an hour to an hour and half just before sunrise. It seems the temp can drop a few more degrees in that time frame.On the surface one would think it would get warmer as the sun begins it morning ritual of rising. What is the mechanism behind this drop in temp just before sunrise? I realize other factors might come into play ,but in general this what I have noticed since I started watching, recording temps!
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Cold air drainage and Abq's "Box"
by SailorBold- 0 replies
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With cooler Fall-like weather moving in and the growing season coming to a close I thought I would share a video form the Weather Channel explaining a local weather phenomenon known as the "Albuquerque Box". This phenomenon is related to cold air drainage in a valley setting during colder mornings which in turn effect air currents/movements. The local balloon fiesta wrapped up last weekend with near perfect weather for balloon launches... this video gives a visual representation of how colder and warmer air moves around during the colder times of the year. At any rate... What is interesting to me is how low a cold air pocket is to the ground..and how the balloons hel…
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Cold air drainage in SoCal
by elHoagie- 11 replies
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After the January cold, someone asked me about cold air drainage in SoCal (I think Matt in SD). He wanted to know why higher elevations in SoCal were warmer during the freeze, but in places like Oregon and Hawaii higher elevations are colder. To make a long story short, when there's a lot of clouds/moisture/wind in the atmosphere, then the temperature drops as elevation increases. But, on clear/dry/windless nights cold air drainage becomes important, and it can be warmer at higher elevations on hillsides. Anyway, it's been fun to track this at my new place in Los Angeles. I'm near the official recording station in downtown LA, but my elevation is 200m compared to …
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I don't know what happened as the forecast was much warmer yesterday. Again, the two GFS models are not on the same page with the NAM model somewhat warmer than the MAV. Per the NWS GFS model, forecast lows for Wednesday morning January 21. Tampa 33F St. Petersburg 36F Miami 44F Orlando 32F Ft. Lauderdale 42F West Palm Beach 38F Ft. Myers 36F
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The Arctic blast blew in here just a little while ago with minor rains in the front of it. Local forcasters say: 23, 18, 18, 26 Weather channal says: 24, 23, 23, 23 I protected nothing, as is my motto. And we have already hit two nights with lows of 26 with heavy frost. A whole lof of palms and other tropicals are gonna get a real test. And I'll be documenting them all.
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Cold Beginning to 2010, but Moderation in site
by Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax)- 1 reply
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Well the results for the first 3 months of 2010 are here. It's been real cold. So far I've lost only 2 palms: Phoenix rupicola and Ravenea rivularis. Neither is a big loss. More may die as we get into the season of rot when heat and humidity encourage composters to attack weakend palms. Hopefully it won't be an issue! Anyway, here's the note from the National Weather Service (sorry, temps are in F). [i]... New record set for consecutive days below 80 degrees at the Jacksonville International Airport... ... Still remains the coldest start to a calendar year in Jacksonville climate history... Today... Monday March 29th... Marks 104 consecutive days wit…
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Cold blast #2 in NorCal
by John Case- 0 replies
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All, Prepare yourself for a week of sub-30's (with a potential low of 23) starting Friday. I am hoping that the Arctic dip is held off by what remains of a Pacific High that has been dissapating more slowly than predicted. Maybe we need some hot air from Sacramento to ward this off. Is the assembly in session?
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Cold blast in N. Calif.
by PalmGuyWC- 37 replies
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Hey Folks, The nightly lows will be in the 20's the next few nights. Upper twentys, the forcasters say but I don't believe them. It's only 43 F now and it's mid day. It was 31 here this morning and a white frost. To cover them, or not? I don't know. I think my Bismarkia will be cold tested in the next few days. I'm not covering. Damn, why didn't I move to Hawaii 30 years ago when I could have?? I HATE winter!!! Dick
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Cold Blast no1 for Texas 1 2
by steve 9atx- 73 replies
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Just in time for MLK day, we're supposed to have lows in the "low 30's". I have a King, Triangle, S. uresana, and A. micrantha pushing spears and two Queens starting to bloom! I don't know if it'll do any good, but I broadcast muriate of potash and epsom salts and watered them in. It's probably not soon enough for them to absorb the anitfreeze. Steve
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Cold coming
by Yunder Wækraus- 16 replies
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It's supposed to be wet and in the 50s tonight. This will be the first time it has been below 60 at our new house. Yesterday it was so warm than the ac stayed on all day and night. Though the absolute low won't be too bad, it will be a 30-degree swing compared to the usual 10-15 change. Should I expect to see signs of stress or damage on the most tender tropicals?
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COLD COMING TO CALIFORNIA
by happ- 33 replies
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NWS-LOS ANGELES 01-18-08 1500 . . .ALL EYES TURN TO THE NORTH AS A REMARKABLY LARGE AND COLD TROUGH DROPS STRAIGHT SOUTH OUT OF WESTERN CANADA AND TAKES AIM ON CENTRAL CALIFORNIA. THE COOLING TREND BEGINS SUNDAY AS THE TROUGH BECOMES ENTRENCHED OVER THE CENTRAL PART OF THE STATE. ALTHOUGH THE MODELS SHOW SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE EXACT TRACK AND DEPTH OF THE TROUGH...THE OVERALL MESSAGE REMAINS THE SAME. NORTHERN AND CENTRAL CALIFORNIA...AND EVENTUALLY SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ARE IN FOR A MAJOR PATTERN CHANGE WITH MUCH COLDER TEMPERATURES AND PERHAPS A LITTLE PRECIPITATION ON THE WAY EARLY NEXT WEEK.