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Thank you for clarifying the difference . I bought my “Gigas” many years ago as a seedling from Jungle Music and at that time we were all very excited about the giant fishtail palm. There were not all the different species available. I already had a couple Urens that were smaller crown but get tall and plenty of Mitis that replace themselves after flowering. Now an Obtusa so I will continue to enjoy it until it flowers.

If you’re looking for a palm that grows vertical real quick go ahead and buy a queen palm from your local big box store. Beccariophoenix alfredii is a fast growing palm when one talks about fronds given per year. Sometimes palms that aren’t self-cleaning and grow vertically so quick can end up being expensive and problematic when it comes to maintenance.

This is what I’m getting at. When I say fast I’m talking number of fronds per year. Who wants to stare at a telephone pole and get a neck pain every time you want to enjoy the foliage? Plant queens if you want a palm that goes vertical real quick. Alfredii is the opposite. Just my 10 centavos…..

With temperatures on the rise, the Plumeria are starting to awaken.. Some faster.... Some slower ..For the moment. ...They'll catch up soon enough.. Ellen should leave her ugly beheading behind once new growth starts pushing from dormant nodes.. Hard to see now but, at least a couple may try to flower this year, inc the " Is likely Celadine " currently in " Plumeria Jail " planted last fall.. Almost time for some white washing to keep those tender young trunks and branches from burning. Lets see what yours are doing ..and up to through the long, warm months ahead..

Wow no hits on these. What a lineup T J

You're gonna need a drone to wrap it next winter.

I'll out myself as a former personal trainer previously certified by the ISSA (International Sports Sciences Association). If you want to get weight off fast, the first thing to address is your diet. It's hard to outrun your fork. In my past, I used to use 1800 calories as my cutting amount and stay on that total for about 2-3 months to get lean. After that, I'd stick between 2400-2800 for a maintenance period, minus holidays. Usually, the cutting phase would get done in the spring to get rid of the Thanksgiving and Christmas weight. You may want to consider changing your workout to train as fast (low rest periods) and as heavy as possible. The best way I've found to do this is to superset exercises that work opposing muscle groups to provide the first muscle group a chance to rest while the second is working, and make the first muscle group less able to oppose the second muscle group during the second exercise. Some good examples of supersets or alternating sets done in this manner: DB Bench Press + DB Bent Row OR Seated Pulley Row DB Shoulder Press + Pulldowns DB Curl + Triceps Pushdown Hammer Curl + Rope Triceps Pushdown EZ Bar Curl + Lying Triceps Press Crunches + Back Extensions DB Front Raise + DB Pullover DB Reverse Lateral + DB Incline Fly DB Side Lateral + DB Decline Fly Leg Extension + Leg Curl Consider it, and hope it works for you. Everyone's body is different.

Are mules now planted in place of sylvesters along I4?

lol

@WSimpson probably an unpopular opinion when it comes to trachies but I'd leave the skirt, I think it looks good

They could be trimmed a smidge to make a mini skirt. 😆

@Mr. Clark Welcome to PalmTalk! Because of where you are located, you can grow practically anything. That said, if you want to get the nursery "into the black" as quickly as possible, you'll want to get yourself a guaranteed revenue stream with stuff that can grow fast and wholesale just as fast to commercial and government customers. Residents also buy most of the palms below and many of them are outside of the typical "Phoenix/Syagrus/Washingtonia/Sabal/Butia" that wholesalers have relied on in the past. Roystonea regia (Royal Palm) and Cocos nucifera (Coconut Palm) are an easy sell to consumers. Down your way they are common, but Royals are increasingly being used here to replace the more disease-prone Syagrus romanzoffiana (Queen Palm) and Phoenix species. The aforementioned Beccariophoenix alfredii is increasing in popularity rapidly from Jacksonville down along I-95 and the entire I-4 corridor. Mules are the even-hardier pinnate palm for cooler areas. Our municipality plants both everywhere. A good family of palms to sell includes Veitchia arecina (Montgomery Palm), Adonidia merrillii (Christmas Palm), Wodyetia bifurcata (Foxtail Palm), and Carpentaria acuminata. Where you are located and in most of South Florida, any of these can grow anywhere. In Central Florida, Christmas Palms and Foxtails sell quickly for residential landscaping and hotels. Veitchia are more of a novelty here, whereas down your way, they line streets and are planted near buildings. Carpentaria is more of a dark horse of the family, but is a good palm for areas that require a Veitchia look with a smaller crown. If you hybridize Veitchia and Wodyetia, you'll get the highly-coveted "Foxy Lady" palm. Another good family of palms to include is Bismarckia nobilis (especially the silver variety) and at least Latania loddigesii (the Blue Latan Palm). Bismarckia is popular throughout almost the whole state and grows pretty fast once the root system is in place, and I've increasingly seen Blue Latans used in milder areas near me, like Winter Haven and Palmetto. Another easy seller is the Archontophoenix genus, especially Archontophoenix cunninghamiana and Archontophoenix alexandrae. Collectively, King Palms are very desirable and the supply is way lower than the demand. Archontophoenix cunninghamiana becomes viable somewhere around coastal JAX or St. Augustine. Archontophoenix alexandrae tends to do better a bit further south, but you'll still have a market for them in roughly 2/3 of the state. The Chambeyronia genus, which has now swallowed the Kentiopsis genus, has a lot of popular, chill-tolerant crownshaft palms you can sell to 2/3 of the state. The big sellers would be Chambeyronia macrocarpa (all varieties), Chambeyronia oliviformis, and Chambeyronia pyriformis. The Chrysalidocarpus (a.k.a. Dypsis that grow in Florida) genus tends to sell decent. Probably the most sold is Chrysalidocarpus lutescens, but Chrysalidocarpus decaryi probably isn't too far behind. Chrysalidocarpus leptocheilos, Chrysalidocarpus pembana, and Chrysalidocarpus lanceolata would sell better if they were more commonly available. These grow a bit more slowly than most of the other palms above. With the arrival of Lethal Bronzing in Florida, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the Livistona genus. In particular, Livistona decora is a prize for municipal planting here. Livistona nitida, Livistona mariae, Livistona australis, and Livistona chinensis are also planted frequently. These also tend to reach mature size at a later time than some of the tropical and subtropical options above. This list is a bit myopic since these are primarily what is bought along the I-4 corridor and areas either further south or with similar microclimates along I-95, but it gives you a way to operate at a profit in a shorter amount of time and still provide a unique inventory to most of the peninsula.

super old thread, but wondering. if you are still in the mule palm business? I am looking to source a significant number of 3g mule for field planting stock

I'm seeing new queens here and there. One day we'll start hating on them again for being over planted 😆 Today in west Houston

thanks for the input! going to look into these suggestions this weekend. I will try to post a few pictures tomorrow.

Very nice! There are a few here. The one up the road has eclipsed the 40 foot mark already. I hope it does really well for you, but the rap on them is that they shed a lot of branches in hurricanes and tropical storms. We joke here that they are the most beautiful tree we've ever seen in someone else's yard @Merlyn's thread is a better guide for your area, but you're also welcome to get ideas from my progress thread: https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/52296-palms-and-others-of-interest/

I'd agree with the other comments on Sylvesters. They are getting wiped out here in Orlando now, and I'm about to remove an infected one in my front yard. Personally I'd avoid anything Phoenix, as it's not clear what other species are at severe risk. As far as other palms go, you could look at it as two categories: Easy sale "common" palms like Queens, Livistona Chinensis / Nitida / Decipiens / Saribus, Mules, Rhapis Excelsa "Lady Palms," Foxtails, some Dypsis/Chrysalidocarpus Lutescens, Bismarck, Fishtails, Pindos, Kings, Ptychosperma Elegans, etc. Those could be easily sold any time, but you wouldn't make much on them...they are more "commodity" palms that are grown by a LOT of nurseries. But it could make sense if you need a minimum acreage or sales volume to qualify for tax breaks. "Unusual" palms that may command higher individual prices, but are either slower growing or less in demand. Those are the sort of "collector" palms that we like here. In Zone 11 you could grow almost anything, and much faster than in zone 9 or 8. So you could grow Arenga Engleri, which commands biiig prices in Jacksonville. Or unusual tall palms like Arenga Pinnata or Attalea Cohune. Beccariophoenix Alfredii is another good one that should grow pretty quick in SFL. Any of the Copernicia would be good, as well as other interesting palms like Kerriodoxa Elegans, lots of options in the Licuala group, some of the "other" Syagrus like Schizophylla and "Coco Queen" Schizophylla x Romanzoffiana, etc. Many of these are "easy grows" if they don't see freezing temps, and could be shipped to Zone 10-9b areas easily. Overall maybe a mix of common and unusual is a good choice. But avoid Sylvestris.

It looks like there is some chance of rain near @flplantguy and my location, a little less chance for @SubTropicRay, and nothing but hot sun for @Looking Glass in the forecast for Monday. Lakeland (KLAL): Brooksville (KBKV): South Tampa (KTPF): Ft. Lauderdale (KFLL): The top couple inches of soil here are a bit dry where exposed, but a few inches down there is moisture available for the plants. The photo below is of some soil from an area I de-sodded as part of a regrade project last weekend. Notice the top is bone dry, but turning it over with a rake shows there is still moisture present:

I was noticing that my C. Lastelliana were putting out what looked like quad leaves compared to my Pembanas which are bifid. Today I noticed that they are actually tiny pinnate leaves. I have not seen palms produce a pinnate first leaf before. Is this normal?

Thanks. There is one, fairly large (about 1.5 inches in diameter), hole in the bottom of the pot. I'm wondering if I shouldn't cut a few more holes in the bottom though.

I agree with @John2468, it should do fine in that pot for quite some time. As long as you have soil that drains well and you keep it watered (moist) it'll do well. I assume that your container has drainage holes in the bottom. Here's one that I recently bought at a big box store and it looks fine in a 5-gal pot just a little bigger than its rootball.

Thank you 🙏 My project this summer is to get big mama out of the wooden basket. The media is so old; she is growing vertical just to escape it. Delightful blooms on your sarchochilus. I’m not familiar with that species. Looks like you have a 2nd spike just below the blooms. 👍

In my experience, bottle palms doesn’t seem to mind being in a small pot. I’d say it could stay in that pot for a few more years, or until it breaks.

The bellaire queen is alive and kicking lots of new growth. No pic sadly 🥲