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Latitude aside, your elevation is similar to parts of Tucson. While likely a bit milder overall during the winter months, they can see more lower / low 20's ..occasional teens some years, and snow ( though likely less than up there in St. George / Southern Utah, or so i'd imagine.. ) compared to here around Phoenix.. That said, the U of A Campus Arboretum lists Sabal mexicana, minor, palmetto, uresana, and x Riverside in their collection. They also have 6 Bismarckia specimens as well.. Know of a nursery owner nearby who also has one growing on his property also.. While siting likely helps with survival during the coldest winters there, U of A sits at 2443ft in elevation, and sits in the river valley where it often gets colder during such events compared to places like Tohono Chul Park in Casa Adobes at an elevation of 2539ft. Not sure which sp. but the park has several non-uresana Sabals on- site and doing well. If it were me, i'd get some seed /seedlings and go for it.. Might grow a few up to 3- 5gal size before planting though. Of all the Sabal seedlings i have atm, unintentionally sown S. palmetto have been the toughest, and i have really put them to the test here, at least heat / lack of consistent water-wise..
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Dioon Mejiae sun or partial shade in Central FL?
Tracy replied to Merlyn2220's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms
My sun isn't nearly as intense as yours, but I have grown mine in full sun for years. It's still potted up to a 15 gallon for many years now, but I started it in a 3" x 9" liner when it was a two leaf seedling. When it was smaller, I gave it mid-morning to mid-day full sun then afternoon shade. Hopefully you will get some input from someone else in Florida with similar sunlight to yours. -
Share your hibiscus!
Tracy replied to putu enjula's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms
Glitz-n-Glitter which I got from HVO a couple of year's ago is blooming despite some heavy June Gloom on the coast here in Leucadia. - Today
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I would forget about Sabal palmetto and go with S. Riverside and S. Bermudana. The last one is the only one I grow in PNW z8.
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The 5” pup is spoken for. Still have the 4” pup for sale (unknown sex). Asking only $120
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Street View of S. palmetto specimen up the road from the house here in Chandler, Across from Dobson Ranch Park. Pretty sure these are S. palmetto since this is the most commonly offered "Sabal" in local nurseries, aside from S. blackburniana. Few others planted in front of a local nursery in Gilbert.
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It seems like I read about some people in the Seattle area unsuccessfully trying to grow them. The problem wasn’t extreme low temperatures. It was long cool winters without temperatures warm enough for the palm to thrive.
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Tassie Troy's Garden 2015
gtsteve replied to Tassie_Troy1971's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Yes, looking good Troy, we were surprised to see you and the garden on TV the other night quite by accident. Before they told us, I said "Look lizzy I know whose garden that is!" -
“Dypsis arenarium” flowering?
John hovancsek replied to quaman58's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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@PalmatierMeg Mildura is in New South Wales, Australia.
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Temperature won't be an issue until you start approaching the 10F mark, perhaps lower depending on the area from which the seed/plant was collected. They are native stands in coastal NC and they happily grow in the Virginia Beach Area. The biggest challenge you'll face is keeping them watered. I agree with @Zeeth about Sabal mexicana. They grow pretty slowly. I do have a few juveniles I can spare, but they are pretty small (4-5 leaflets). If you want a few, PM me.
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“Dypsis arenarium” flowering?
Hilo Jason replied to quaman58's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
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I believe so. Minors can be found in swamp conditions in nature, I have them planted in the “wettest” portion of my yard (by desert standards) and mulched. Slow growing but stays nice and green. The blackburniana I water deeply a couple of times per week, keep it moist but it’s not as wet as the minor. Grows more quickly than the minor as well.
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Thanks for the report! All of my plants that aren’t a cactus, yucca, etc. are on a drip, so that won’t be a problem. Slower than the butia? That’s one of the slowest ones in my area. That’s interesting. I plan to plant in full sun as well.
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Do you know if it’s because of drought tolerance, or better tolerance to no humidity?
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Awesome! So really moisture that is the key? I didn’t think the weather would bother it much. Do you winter water? Our winter days are probably much colder than yours, but still well above feeezinfnin the daytime. We had record snowfall and cold this year. The dactys croaked. Many robustas defoliate shut came back in April. I don’t anticipate it being a problem with the sabal. Chamaerops, trachys and filifera all made it through fine.
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That’s what I don’t know either. It is usually hovering between 45-55 during the daytime in January. . But that’s significantly colder for longer than in places like say northern Florida.
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I have a 5g here in Gilbert, AZ that I purchased from a big box store about two years ago. It was like $5 on the final sale rack so why not? It's in a hellstrip of full sun all day and has had zero issues with sun or cold. It's on a drip which probably helps. Not fast growing but always looks happy and pushing a spear or two in my experience. Slower than the Butia Capitata next to it.
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You might also try Sabal mexicana, which I've heard are a bit more tolerant of desert climates.
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I have a S. Minor and S. Blackburniana. Both are in 3/4 day sun here in Phoenix. Sun wise both do well and maybe wash out slightly in the hottest months. I saw a night of 26f this winter and both had zero issues. I keep both well watered. Heat and cold are not an issue. Max
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My second annual banana joe shipment
mdsonofthesouth replied to Rickybobby's topic in COLD HARDY PALMS
Let me know what you find out since we are pretty close. Would be curious what size and how much to get down here. -
Tassie Troy's Garden 2015
mfoster replied to Tassie_Troy1971's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Its wonderful that ABCTV's Gardening Australia recognises how significant Troy's garden is. He has a gift for placement , so his garden is a real work of art , with surprises and splashes of colour everywhere . Like all the palm people I have come across he is incredibly generous with his time and his plants and it has been a privelege to have had him as a mentor for me and my palm garden here in Hobart over the last 5 years. Well done Troy ! PS In all my visits to Troy's place I have never noticed that curious infestation of seagulls heard at the beginning of the tv segment ! Maybe they were attracted by the ABC's drone ! LOL -
Share your hibiscus!
Hillizard replied to putu enjula's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms
I just picked this 7-inches-wide flower today off my grafted Hibiscus standard. It's called "Caramel Dawn" and I think you'll agree the name is quite appropriate! -
It doesn’t sound like low temperatures would be an issue. I’m not sure they could survive the dry desert conditions. Also I’ve read they can’t survive long periods without seeing warm weather.
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