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Remarkable palms of Tampa Bay
JJPalmer replied to RedRabbit's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Believe it or not - the tall coconut in the background is actually a new planting. The coconut in the foreground is a 2010 survivor. I guess there may be a third 1989 survivor in DTSP - just not a native one! -
Breaking the emotional tie.....
Tracy replied to Stevetoad's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Best to do it when you have some control over the outcome. As close as you say they are to other palms you want to retain, there is no guarantee that if you wait and pay someone to do it, they will be as careful with your adjacent plantings as you will be. I can relate. I have been eating home grown bananas the last few mornings from clumps that I'll eventually remove because they were originally planted as quick shade plants. Close your eyes and move ahead. When its all done and your remaining plants stand out due to less crowding, you will come to appreciate the new look too! Sometimes it just has to be done. -
Twisty Triple Palm - Vecchia?
idesign123 replied to idesign123's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Wow, so amazingly helpful!!! Three more quick questions... 1) How much taller do you think that triple Ptychosperma would get? I love the height it is now, and could handle a little taller in the front yard, but might look silly at double that size ;-) 2) Do you think the Ptychosperma would look better in the spot shown in the first photo below? I was going to put a couple really tall "Chamaedorea Costaricana" plants in the spot shown in the first photo below (to balance out the other three large trees, and replace a Double Queen Palm that was previously there). But maybe the triple Ptychosperma would be even better in that spot? I love the look of a tall skinny plant there, and was origially thinking of putting a couple super-tall "Costaricanas" there... but I was worried that spot might be too sunny for Costaricanas. Any thoughts on Costaricana vs Ptychosperma for that spot? 3) Would a "Royal Palm" be better than a "Majesty Palm" in the front yard, if I went that route? Funny you mentioned the Royal Palm, as the "backup" palm I was considering (Majesty) is very similar. See photo #2 below for my mockup using a "Majesty Palm" for the front year. I'm seeing Majesty palms all over the place in San Diego, but haven't seen Royal Palm yet. But if it's superior in either look or function, I'll search it out! * There was a full-size double Queen Palm in that spot previously, so it can handle a pretty large palm there. Thank you again for your invaluable advice! Photo #1 - Considering putting the triple Ptychosperma in the back yard instead. Or would Constaracana be better here? Photo #2 - Mockup showing a "Majesty Palm" in the front yard. Debate is now between three options: 1) Triple Ptychosperma, 2) Majesty Palm, 3) Royal Palm 4) Other cool palm? (I was looking at "Teddy Bear Palm" at one point) - Today
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Help me to identify palm trees in Brasília
Darold Petty replied to Ferreira Maia's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
I cannot help with the seed ID, but Welcome to Palmtalk ! -
Help me to identify palm trees in Brasília
Fusca replied to Ferreira Maia's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Bemvindo ao Palmtalk! Acho que está Veitchia joannis, mas também pode ser Veitchia spiralis. If the crownshaft is white, it is V. spiralis - difficult to see the color in the photo. Não dirigo um fusca mas acho um carro bem engraçado! Rss! I've visited Brasilia once - nice city! Jon -
Using palm species to accurately assess USDA zone
John of Ponce replied to John of Ponce's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATE
Thanks for the info. John -
Patrick, it sounds like you made the right choice, and you should have some big, beautiful palms before too long. I think if the water is moving/recirculating, and if you have some life in the pond to keep an ecosystem going with some level of oxygenation, that is the best way to go. As far as Joe (on Big Pine)'s decision, I think he may have sunk the trashcan to avoid saltwater intrusion, but I very much agree with Zig that the anaerobic/stagnant water idea is going to end in the death of a plant with no circulation. It's unavoidable, really. It is worth designing a focal-point pond-feature with some sort of recirculating fountain/pump because a well-grown plant is really something and will get the oohs and aahs from visitors to your garden. As far as temperature, my C. renda on Big Pine went through a quick 48F one morning with no damage whatsoever. I had it planted on a mound due to the fact that I am not about to break my back going into that cap-rock, and also even in the absence of hurricane inundation the freshwater lens on Big Pine can go somewhat brackish under certain circumstances. And I had been warned by someone on Summerland Key who lost a bunch of palms in the inundation of either Georges or Wilma that C. renda is extremely sensitive to saltwater intrusion. My good-sized plant grew beautifully in that mound, though it was somewhat slow because I didn't water it that much (and water does noticeably speed up the growth rate in my own observation). My hybrid (which I got from Jeff Searle, and which was also planted in a raised bed) was much, much more vigorous, and I really had to do nothing for it, and it soared to some height. A really gorgeous thing, and I actually preferred it to renda, the crownshaft/trunk colors were amazing. When Hurricane Irma dished out the 4-5' of saltwater for a solid day, the renda blackened immediately. Not so with the hybrid, which eventually did die but it took 18 months for it to fade away. I'm sure if I had thoroughly and continuously flushed the area through with freshwater it could have survived, but I was overwhelmed with a completely trashed half-acre landscape and a lot of things just languished. I don't know how tolerant the hybrid is of a waterborne existence, but I think the best C. renda I have seen, both in life and in photos, are generally growing in ponds or boggy areas, and that's worth doing if you're going to plunk down the $$$ required to buy one or more of these.
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Also, mature Phoenix roebelenii (in previous picture) and Livistona chinensis (pictured below).
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Remarkable palms of Tampa Bay
JJPalmer replied to RedRabbit's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
As promised - here are some pics of Kopsick. I’m sure there have been plenty posted previously - but what’s a few more?! Not sure why, but it appears there’s quite a bit of compression happening with these pics - sorry they’re not more clear. -
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I am 8 Miles Inland with lower humidity than the coast and the first one I planted did not do well in half day sun at a young age. The second one I planted in filtered light is doing fantastic. My suggestion is to let it emerge into the sun
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Macrozamia Moorei extreme hardiness limit
Meangreen94z replied to Meangreen94z's topic in TROPICAL LOOKING PLANTS - Other Than Palms
Thanks, yeah I’ll have to take tour. I’ve been meaning to. -
Breaking the emotional tie.....
Stevetoad replied to Stevetoad's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Yeah, this is my fear as I can take these down myself right now but they will be out of range very soon. -
Beautiful palm! I love their trunks.
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Breaking the emotional tie.....
Stevetoad replied to Stevetoad's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
I wish I could as I would much rather see them live on. The problem is mostly damaging the roots of the surrounding plants. I've done a big dig out once and killed a parajubea that was next to it. These are all within about 4 feet from the next plant. -
Very cool.
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Breaking the emotional tie.....
Darold Petty replied to Stevetoad's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
I sympathize, I have removed 3 adult Rhopalostylis, because they became too tall to tie up the fronds against uncontrolled fall. The largest one had 24 feet of trunk below the crownshaft, I grew it for 37 years. (a further bite, they were too big for me to handle, and I had to pay $1900 for a tree service to do the removal.) -
Breaking the emotional tie.....
necturus replied to Stevetoad's topic in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE
Can you dig any out? Might be more satisfying to transplant them to another enthusiast's garden. I am probably seven or eight years behind you but will eventually face the same problem. -
The time has come. My small yard is or should I say has been getting to cramped. I need to start editing out some large palms. I dont know if you guys feel the same but I feel attached to these green friends. Many of them I grew from tiny little one gallons and to cut them down while they have grown so well is a little sad. I have one bizzy that has to go. Its about 20 feet tall and has never looked good ( i have 2 more that look perfect). A really nice acrocromea that has about 8 feet of trunk that is a literal pain in the butt but looks great and is now flowering ( this one hurts to have to get rid of). Brahea brandigeii, 2 kentias, one mule ( I probably wont cut this one down but i should) and a few fruit trees like guava and stuff. This has been the plan all along , let them grow and be canopy just to cut them down later but its not going to be as easy as I thought.
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That's overall good news for here, despite the past dreary, chilly days. I hope that warm air stays parked over Canada through Feb. We are getting a warmup here in Cape Coral much of this coming week, which will carry us to the last week in Jan. By early Feb. the window on a freeze event will be closing. Six more weeks to March 1.
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Good explanation of why we haven’t seen record cold despite training cold fronts.
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florida Florida Freeze and Weather Station Data
Jeff985 replied to kinzyjr's topic in WEATHER / CLIMATE
@XenonHere’s the Shady River La Porte Norfolk. I also found one in Morgan’s Point, but I’m not sure that one was there prior to 2018. -
Any sabal domingensis x palmetto?
GoatLockerGuns replied to EastCanadaTropicals's topic in COLD HARDY PALMS
Sorry, Figure 3B is actually Sabal antillensis. Still, the description of Sabal lougheediana sounds similar. I would love to get my hands on seeds from either one! -
Any sabal domingensis x palmetto?
PalmatierMeg replied to EastCanadaTropicals's topic in COLD HARDY PALMS
Great, if someone is willing to do it. I believe I'm seeing a quantum leap in the perception of Sabals and other native US palms in the 13 years since I joined PalmTalk. That's a wonderful thing. Back then Sabals were at best overlooked, at worst scorned. The inclusion of a Coldhardy subforum was a definite plus in opening up a conduit of info to more "prosaic" species of palms. But nurseries and garden centers have, for the most part, been slow to non-existent to consider these palms marketable. They stick to what they trust will always sell: the usual suspects shipped by tractor trailer from SFL. To establish nurseries that feature the myriad Sabals will take money and time - lots of both. To undertake hyridization will take advanced education, expertise and testing. So, when/if all that is done will there be a market for the results? How many Sabals will you buy? How much would you pay? If the market is truly there, the results will come. But not in my lifetime. -
Any sabal domingensis x palmetto?
GoatLockerGuns replied to EastCanadaTropicals's topic in COLD HARDY PALMS
The trunks on those Sabals look amazing. In particular, Figure 3B from the attached article really caught my eye. I would imagine constant wind exposure probably had something to do with that shape; regardless, that trunk shape is awesome. Almost seems like it has a bottle-shape. 56622-185755-1-PB.pdf
