COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Winter weather 1 2 3
by Palm crazy- 1 follower
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Had my first heavy frost this morning at 30F, colder tonight into the upper 20’s. Tender flowering plants/palms are inside for the winter. This cold spell is supposed to last to the end of the week. Good bye banana, ginger, canna leaves. There always the first to go any ways. LOL!
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Newly added Sabal Uresana.. 1 2
by SailorBold- 2 followers
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So excited! I finally picked up a Sabal Uresana from North Texas Cold Hardy palms. This has been on my wish list for some time.. and I had an area saved for a large sabal that has been sitting bare for a number of years now. The spot where i planted it was a toss up between a Mexicana and Uresana..as Mexicana seems to do well here... It will be interesting to see how well it will tolerate our dry winters. It seems all of the reports on cold damage and hardiness come from humid areas around the country... the one thing that interests me is it is native to an area that is fairly close to NM..so perhaps at least some of its growing conditions will be similar. Its…
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My [(JxB) x B] x B 1 2
by SailorBold- 4 followers
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Mod Edit: Please note the topic title was changed at the request of the Original Poster. Here is a pic of a recently planted J X B F3. The palm is located in the center planter. If I am correct this is J X B X B X B.
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Chamaedorea radicalis trunking
by Palm crazy- 30 replies
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Who in zone 8 is growing this palm and how is it doing in your climate especially 8a winters? I have a few in the ground for the last few years, their foliage seem just a little less hardy than the regular C. radicals but still rewarding to grow and oh so tropical looking to boot. Roger
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Sago palm - is it dead?
by Jeveion Amaluhu- 1 follower
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Hello, I am new to this website and I am pretty new to palm trees. I live in zone 7a North Ohio and I have a dwarf palmetto tree (Sabal minor) and a Sago palm. I had these grown completely unprotected for the past 2 years, but now they are getting brown. The dwarf palm has brown on the leaves and the sago palm is completely brown. It was 7 degrees F this morning. What should I do?
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Palms north of Virginia.
by Mr.SamuraiSword- 1 follower
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Maryland a Hardier palmetto and an even hardier Trachy even more palmettos and Fan Palms in centreville MD. kinda like VA beach Next is Delaware A Palmetto near the border of MD and some trachys New jersey Queens, Cocos and Washingtonias on Long Branch beach and some Sabals and more (small) Washingtonias and of course some trachys. Next is New york cocos from IWPT and another trachy Next is CT Some queens in Waterford and some Trachys in Norwalk Next is Rhode island queens. No hardier palms here Last, Mass S…
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Excellent palm garden in PNW 1 2 3
by Palm crazy- 1 follower
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A friend and I went to see a palm garden in Browns Pointe WA. The garden is on a hill overlooking Puget Sound and is a solid 8b/9a. The last six year the lows have been 25F-27F. The gardeners are Vlad and Chris Shakov. The rope lighting on some of the palms is to help keep them warmer in winter and the owner says he gets more palm leaves this way. Lots of photos. Brahea armata
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The life of my Phoenix Theophrasti 1 2 3
by Swolte- 1 follower
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Planning to chronicle the life of my Phoenix Theophrasti in this thread for those who are interested. I received this specimen from TCHP two years ago (fall of 2018, if I am not mistaken...) when it was about 21" long and had a small trunk of 1.75 inches. I am guessing its the green variant but TCHP can probably tell me more about about the origin of the seed batch. Frankly, I was not impressed with how it handled the first winter. I pulled a spear pull and it lost most of its leaves in a fairly mild winter (I don't think we even went lower than 25F that year). I basically left it for dead (no watering or any sort of care) and would have removed it had I not fo…
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Jubaea Chilensis explosive growth
by Banana Belt- 2 followers
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In a prior forum post the growth rate of a Jubaea Chilensis was discussed by many and is highly recommended. https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/19995-the-explosive-growth-ofjubaea-chilensis/?&page=4#comments In 1989 I planted two Jubaea Chilensis that were 5 and 7 years old. The following 6 pictures and graph shows growth rate of one of those palms, with the first picture taken in 2006. I could not find earlier pictures between 1989 and 2006 as they are packed away someplace in the pre-digital age. The first 20+ years a Jubaea palms growth is slow with each new frond or leaf emerging slowly and just slightly bigger but holding on and staying gree…
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Trachycarpus princeps 1 2
by Palm D- 3 followers
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Tracvhycarpus princeps. Does anyone have one of these beauties or growing seedlings or young palms? This nis still a rarity in Canada but I see it often for sale in Europe and Asia. Lets see some photos of yours! Cheers
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Livistona Nitida in zone 8? 1 2
by Swolte- 2 followers
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I have been reading up on these forums about folks trying Livistona Nitida in zone 8. I was wondering if there were any updates, especially after last winter!
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What will survive 1 2 3
by NBTX11- 109 replies
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Any guesses as to what will survive in Texas. Here is my prediction. Virtually all palms north of Waco - DEAD. Maybe someone eeks out a Sabal or Windmill in Dallas Austin - All W. Robusta and Date palms - Dead. W. Filifera, Sabal Palmetto, and Sabal Mexicana live for the most part. Still some deaths there. San Antonio. 50 percent of W. Robusta - Dead. Some surprise and live. All queen palms dead. Some date palms dead. Probably most dates survive. Every W. Filifera, Sabal, etc live on. The infamous riverwalk mules live after enduring damage. Houston. Queen palms dead. A lot of Robusta dead maybe 25 or 30 percent Every zone push zone 9 and 10 …
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Single-Trunked Rhapidophyllum hystrix pictures 1 2
by Bigfish- 1 follower
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So in another thread, some were wondering what a single-trunked Needle Palm would look like. There are many, many examples out there. Some people call this form a "Bull Needle," but that is usually referring to a large, single-trunked male with large leaves and a rather sparse crown. I have seen single-trunked female Needle Palms also. Often times single-trunked Needles can be observed in habitat. It's not clear why some have no pups. It's possible that some Needles in landscapes have their suckers pruned on a regular basis, but that would be some dedicated maintenance. It would be nice to find a seed source of needle Palms where they produced only single-trunk…
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Palm freeze protection 1 2
by KsLouisiana- 2 followers
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Hey palmtalkers. So here in Lake Charles they are forecasting around 20 for a low over the next few nights! Terrible... But I have a few Queen palms. The tallest is about 20ft. A bismarck that is about 7 ft and a phoenix roebelenii that is about 5ft. Along with a myer lemon, satsuma, lila avocado and a grapefruit tree. I bought a bunch of fabrick and heat lamps and some heat tape. I plan on doing a heat lamp on the bismarck, citrus, and definitely the phoenix. What do y'all think? Should they all be okay? What about the queen palms? Should I bother protecting the 20 footer? Any comments and suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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San Antonio River Walk after 2021 freeze 1 2
by mulungu- 1 follower
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I debated whether or not to start this thread... those of us in Texas and other U.S. states hit by the severe winter freeze last month have certainly seen more than enough dead and damaged palms. But I have always been curious how large public plantings of palms and other subtropical/tropical plants respond to these historic freezes, and there is often little photo documentation. For example, I wonder what it looked like at Disney World in Orlando, Florida after the 1989 freeze. https://allears.net/2017/06/26/when-a-hard-freeze-hit-walt-disney-world-in-1989-cast-members-turned-to-faux-plants-along-jungle-cruise/ Although absurd, in my mind's eye I some…
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I am going to be using heat cables this year to protect my palms through the winter. I'm looking at either the Frost King cables with built in thermostats or the "Prime Wire" on Amazon which don't have a thermostat but I'd then use a thermostat such as the Farm Innovators TC-3. I am wiring circuits for these so was concerned about total amp draw but looks like I'll be fine. For any others interested, here's the data I've gotten on the cables and thermostats: Frost King - 7w/ft - Max @15A =257ft, Max @20A = 342ft Prime Wire - 5w/ft - Max @15A = 360ft Max @20A = 480ft Frost King built in thermostat unit: On 38F / Off 45F Frost King separate thermosta…
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Galveston Queen Palm Carnage 1 2
by mthteh1916- 49 replies
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Supposedly only two out of twelve showing any green signs. Will these come back you think? Such a shame. Coldest since 1989.
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How much does a palm weigh?
by BeyondTheGarden- 2 followers
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This is a broad question but I wanted to assemble a kind of database for any and all types of palms. "It depends" is not a helpful answer, everyone knows that there are dozens of variables. Crown size, root ball size, hydration, trunk diameter etc. I have read that Sabal palmettos weigh around 100 pounds per foot of trunk. That's super generalized and seems to be what most landscape companies use. Does anyone know a weight for a trachycarpus, per linear ft of trunk? I am hoping to go dig one up (trachy) that has around 10 ft of trunk. If it also weighs 100 pounds per LF of trunk (it should be lighter I think since the trunk is maybe 1/3 the diamet…
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Can mule palms survive temps between 10f - 15f? 1 2
by donnacreation- 1 follower
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I'm curious how mule palms faired during the recent record cold week in the SE US. Temps at my location dropped to 12f twice in one week, with highs in the 30s. For those who experienced similar temps, especially in the Carolinas, how do your mule palms look? I'd love to hear from you. Thanks.
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Jan 03 2018 Deep South Snowstorm
by Anthony_B- 3 replies
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I moved to Leland, NC, the most immediate suburb to Wilmington, this past October from Philadelphia. I seem to have brought the cold with me. We have had record-breaking cold with three nights in a row in the teens, with another three nights in a row hitting mid-teens forecast starting tomorrow night. Today, we are under siege from a snowstorm that will undoubtedly go down in the record books. I know anywhere in the South has the potential to snow, but I didn't think I'd get this much snow this quickly during my very first year here! I have grown to despise snow from decades of shoveling and driving in it up north, but down here it is a special event. Plu…
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Giant sago palms - LOOK! (cycas revoluta)
by Sandy Loam- 19 replies
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This week I drove past these giant sago palms (cycas revoluta) and I could not resist taking a photo. There are a lot of sago palms here in Gainesville, Florida, but the ones in these 3 attached photos are possibly the biggest I have ever seen. The one in the first photo had a central trunk that was possibly twice my height. I recall exactly, but it was huge. The houses in this district were mostly built in the 1890s, so these sago palms may be as old as 125 years if they were planted when the home was constructed. PHOTO 1 - huge sago PHOTO 2 - same huge sago, but slightly different angle PHOTO 3 - different multi-trunk sago; not as tall as the tree in…
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How did the Syagrus romanzoffiana do in that region did they take much damage? Did any die? All Queens died on North Padre Island, I was curious to see if those further south in Texas had any Queens that did not survive or if there were no casualties reported that far south? Thanks
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North Florida Queen Palms, zone 9a expanding 1 2
by The7thLegend- 3 followers
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Posting this topic in Cold Hardy since it's about northerly zone expansion. Depending what cold hardiness zone map you refer to, the Lake City, north Florida area would mostly be an 8b or barely 9a zone. Lake City is about 30 miles north of Gainesville, FL. Easily found on the map where I10 & I75 intersect... that's pretty darn north Florida. Looking around the area I was surprised to find as many Queen Palms thriving. As a reference, we all know how bad the 2010 winter was and the 2018 winter had temps that remained below freezing for hours! In addition, this area experienced sleet (but no actual snow fall) this past winter. I captured some pics of Queen Palms…
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Best Method for Winter Protection?
by ChrisA- 21 replies
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As summer nears its end, I can’t help but think of the cold weather that is coming. Miraculously, in this high desert, I’ve been able to get a filibusta established to the point that not only can I not protect it so well, but, outside of a freakishly bitter winter, it really does not need the protection. However, I have two young palms, one newly planted this year, which are not robust and established. These need my best efforts for several more years until they are possibly large enough to balk at our average winter. These are a Sabal uresana, planted in 2016, and a new Brahea armata, just planted in May of this year. The sabal received zero damage, under …
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Wanted to post pictures of the Yatay Mule that I put in the ground as a strap-leaved seedling in the summer of 2010. It's showing about a foot of clean trunk now: And lookie here.....my first inflorescence on a hybrid: And another one: Bonus shot, Aiders with a Kashmir Mazari:
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