COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Trachycarpus Fortunei Winsan 1 2 3 4
by Chris Wilson- 4 followers
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Anybody growing Trachycarpus Fortunei Winsan? I have one that is about 5 1/2 years old, it is a very fast growing palm it's around 9 feet tall at its tallest leaf tips now. There is not very much information or photos of this palm, I've read that the mother palm has 360 degree fronds but none of seedlings were showing that trait so far. My palms fronds are getting rounder but are not 360 degrees yet. I also read that it is less hardy than regular Fortunei but since I live in Ohio I have to protect it every winter, the lowest my palm has seen unprotected is 19 f. If anybody has any Photos or information about this palm please share. Here is some photos showing the growth o…
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I figured I would start a new topic giving an update on some of my palms and other things growing in a Virginia garden. Now that I've had a little more free time, I've been catching up on quite a bit of weeding and such. It's still a work in progress. Hopefully, I can get the photos to load. Ever since getting a different phone I've had some difficulties uploading photos, so trying the computer.
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First I want to say that the data will also be entered into the Freeze Damage section for individual species. Pictures will be entered with my hand held but discussion will primarily be with laptop for ease of use. Hopefully pictures will be worth a thousand words. First up a ray of sunshine.
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Sabal x Brazoriensis 1 2
by Brian F. Austin- 5 followers
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I saw a mature brazoria palm at barton springs for the first time and was amazed at it's incredible mass and huge leaves. They almost remind of green bismarcks or a sabal minor on steroids. I thought sabal mexicanas were cool until I saw this Brazoria. For some reason I assumed this ancient hybrid had a small trunk. Not so. Anybody here growing these? I would love to see more photos of them. Here's a picture of it... sorry for the quality... it was taken from the car through the fence with the phone. I'll get a close-up next time I'm over there.
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Northern most coconut palm tree??? Daytona beach 1 2
by Jason-Palm king- 3 followers
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I took this pic today after lunch with the wife....this coconut palm is in south Daytona close to A1A. This must have been planted after 2010.....is this the most northern coconut ???
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Sabal minor At Their Range Limits? 1 2
by PalmTreeDude- 3 followers
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Anyone have any pictures of native Sabal minor at just about their fattest northern ranges? I want to see more Sabal minors at their limits, inspired by this awesome thread: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/52756-sabal-minor-in-habitat-mccurtain-county-ok/
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I have found it increasingly difficult to find good information on this cultivar. Does anyone have any experience with this sabal, or know of references I can check out for information about its culture? I have one on the way soon and want to make sure I know as much as possible. Thanks
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OK OK we all know the zones have flaws, yada yada but look and see if your zone went up. Click on map or put in zip code for your plant zone. Mine went from 7A to 7B https://planthardiness.ars.usda.gov/ For noobs the plant zone is used to give a idea of what plants can be grown where you live and it is a 30 year average of the lowest temp recorded for each year. For example my zone is now 7B which indicated the average low over the past 30 years is between 5F-10F. But I had a -1F last year that also goes in that average and might kill some palms. Comparison of 2023 vs 2012 (Newest previous) Map
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Cold Hardy Palm List. 1 2
by _Keith- 2 followers
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This is a nice list. Who wants to poke holes in the temperatures listed? http://www.hardiestpalms.com/ColdHardyPalmList.htm
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Please post your palm protection photos for those who ask this time of year. Post your photos and what zone you've tested this in. Here are mine for 7a Trachycarpus Thermocube, Mini lights and temp sensor Wrapped 1.5 oz dewitt frost cloth Circle fence cover wrapped again in frost cloth, staked down. Box method with plastic, notice angled roof, ample vents, blackout fabric on sun side. Pegboard for top
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If you are on the northern Gulf Coast you got stung hard this year, From Houston to the Florida Panhandle it was brutal. Coldest temps here in Louisiana in the last 28 years, not once but in 2 separate cold fronts just 2-3 weeks apart. The first one was dry, so I held out hope, but the 2nd came in colder and wetter at 17 degrees. By midsummer I expect total foliage loss on all Phoenix, Livistona, Washingtonia, Syagrus species. Mules will be 90% foliage loss by midsummer. Deaths will be numerous, hurts to even think about it. Sabals, Butia, Chamaerops, Chamaedorea remain untouched. Why do I say "by midsummer"? Because only when the heat arrives and the crow…
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Queen after first winter in Virginia 1 2 3 4
by SEVA- 1 follower
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Trachycarpus WagnerianusXPrinceps 1 2 3
by Aldert- 1 follower
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For some years I was trying to make this cross. After being hold up by some one who had the Princeps male flowering for some years already, I finally succeeded in pollinating my Waggy with pollen from a dutch palm enthousiast. The result off sowing some seeds in January, is so far two seedlings. I think that the seeds behave as the true Princeps, a few will germinate in the first year, and the others the years to come.
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Sabal Riverside 1 2 3
by palm tree man- 5 followers
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This one of the first palms that I grew from seed and even now no one really knows what it is or how it came to reside in a private garden in Riverside California. It is tougher than nails and can take hot, cold, ice, snow, drought, dampness and really always looks great. It is a species of Carribbean origin and possibly a hybrid between one of the large Cuban or Dominican species and possibly Sabal Texana, Palmetto, or Bermudana. I know the stories about the all seed growing true from the original plant and that the original plant has been lost in time so to speak and the road construction story, but all stories aside what is it really? Next to one of…
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Sabal Uresana varieties & cold hardiness 1 2 3
by TexasColdHardyPalms- 2 followers
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During this winter I have noticed a big difference between seed stock of Sabal Uresana and upon further investigation it appears that there are two distinct populations of this species. The costal form is more blue/green in color and from what I can tell is more of a zone 8 palm. I have had various damage on this species from 100% defoliation on smaller 5G plants in the ground to 75% defoliation on larger 5-6' tall (overall) plants in the ground. There is also a reported Mountain form that is silver/white even from the first leaf (same color as a B. Armata) and this palm appears to be zone 7 hardy. I had zero damage on three leaf plants in 1G pots (100% frozen…
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Rhopalostylis Sapida Cold Tolerance/Hardiness - Any info appreciated! 1 2 3
by palmsnbananas- 2 followers
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So I've been scouring this site trying to find some mention of R. Sapida's, or the genus in general's, cold tolerance. Does anyone have any reports of this palm even having any damage in the cold and at what temperature? What is the lowest temperature anyone with this palm has seen? Also does anyone have info on cold hardiness of the different forms? I'm sure between the members on this board we could get a great idea of how much it can handle, any info is appreciated! If it is true that this palm can take sub 24 deg and survive then I am about to plant a triple! I was thinking of the R. Sapida Oceana - (im not even sure what that means? is that the one with whi…
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cold hardy blue palms 1 2 3
by sonoranfans- 1 follower
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I consider 9a and below cold hardy zones since perhaps only 5% of all palms are tough enough to handle 9a. The choices for palms in cold hardy zones does include a large number of blue or bluish colored palms. I was thinking that some examples would be useful for the cold hardy gardener who doesnt know of allt he choices and how they look. I'll start it off with Brahea Clara, a nice blue palm that can take down to 20F or so and it can also take some "florida style" humidity. Brahea clara is also a pretty fast growing palm in my yard. this one was bought in jan 2011 as a strap leaf seedling from Tejas tropicals, called Brahea Clara "icy blue". I was a bit disappointe…
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Starting this thread for all the random palms I see around the Dallas area on a daily basis
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Comparing Growth Rates of Various Sabals 1 2
by Scot from SC- 4 followers
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I hope that this topic has not been exhausted in some thread that I missed. In addition, I know that location and amount of rain/water, among other factors, affect growth rates. We all know that Sabals love heat, and most would agree that without necessary summer heat, even in an area with milder winters, Sabals can decline or stall out so to speak. Let's assume that the growth rates are based on most of the zone 8 and up areas of the southern United States. I would love to see data from other areas, but I have to go with what I know. My question is, how would you rank popular Sabals in terms of speed of growth. I know the old adage that "The first year they s…
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Sabal causiarum 'Lisa' 1 2
by Alicehunter2000- 2 followers
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I'm calling out Tom GA to provide more photographic evidence of this palms existence. Much like the BigFoot of the Northwest, or the Loch Ness Monster; Sabal causiarum 'Lisa' seems like it might be a hoax to lure tourists to the Bamboo Farm in Georgia. Just like those 'monsters', all we have is one grainy photo as "proof" of this Monster Palm's existence. Here it is......... So is it real....or an elaborate prank?
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I just posted the other day about some Chamadorea that I saw at Lowes and ran into something else today so I figured I'd just make a thread where i could post this stuff. Don't want to fill up the forum with new posts every time I get overstimulated from seeing a new potted tree. Anyways, picked up 2 Adonidia today at Wally's for $25 each in League City TX. Might be old news to you FL folk, but I don't see them for sale here often due to being out of zone. Pretty good size for $25 I think.
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Comprehensive Hardiness List 1 2
by Mauna Kea Cloudforest- 1 follower
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This new forum split is confusing, but since this is about hardiness, i will post it here even though this doesn't qualify as "hardy" by the measure that palms grow natively here. Has anyone seen this list of hardiness results? It has quite a number of surprises, some rather tropical palms turn out to be pretty hardy. Now hardy for me means it can take some dips into the upper 20's, i.e. -2C at most in the open before I see any damage. This list was compiled by a nursery in Cornwall, UK, and while it's mild down there, i expect most of those specimens were small. http://www.trebrown.com/documents/climate/palmhardinesstrials.php Some of this information is hig…
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With the windmill doing pretty well, I am going to plant two bigger larger cold hardy palms. So some suggestions would be nice for what they could be and recommend especially because of my climate.
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Hi Guys, Can someone provide me the pros and cons of of the Medjool Date Palm versus the Sylvester Date Palm? I have read many conflicting arguments and I hope I can find some honest feedback here. I understand they are both susceptible to disease such as Lethal Bronzing so I will already throw that out there. Thanks, Nick
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GFS seems like it wants to target you guys with some very bitter temperatures. Below zero for Seattle and low single digits in Portland. GFS nailed Texas last year this far in advance.
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