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COLD HARDY PALMS

Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.

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  1. GaDawg

    Phoenix theophrasti 1 2 3 4

    by GaDawg

    Why aren’t there more of these being utilized here in the US? Can these handle the southeast’s humidity? I know many people aren’t advised to plant filifera- another palm that doesn’t like humidity- in the southeast, but I’ve heard of quite a few people that grow filifera- as opposed to the less hardy robusta- in 8b/8a South Carolina, middle 8a Georgia, the pan handle of Florida and in Texas. With the hardiness, I would assume there would be more of these.

    mike.farge@yahoo.com
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  3. SEVA

    Virginia Palms 1 2 3 4 6

    by SEVA

    I figured I would start a new topic giving an update on some of my palms and other things growing in a Virginia garden. Now that I've had a little more free time, I've been catching up on quite a bit of weeding and such. It's still a work in progress. Hopefully, I can get the photos to load. Ever since getting a different phone I've had some difficulties uploading photos, so trying the computer.

    SEVA
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  4. PalmTreeDude

    Sabal minor At Their Range Limits? 1 2

    by PalmTreeDude

    Anyone have any pictures of native Sabal minor at just about their fattest northern ranges? I want to see more Sabal minors at their limits, inspired by this awesome thread: http://www.palmtalk.org/forum/index.php?/topic/52756-sabal-minor-in-habitat-mccurtain-county-ok/

    frewworld
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  5. Brian F. Austin

    Sabal x Brazoriensis 1 2

    by Brian F. Austin

    I saw a mature brazoria palm at barton springs for the first time and was amazed at it's incredible mass and huge leaves. They almost remind of green bismarcks or a sabal minor on steroids. I thought sabal mexicanas were cool until I saw this Brazoria. For some reason I assumed this ancient hybrid had a small trunk. Not so. Anybody here growing these? I would love to see more photos of them. Here's a picture of it... sorry for the quality... it was taken from the car through the fence with the phone. I'll get a close-up next time I'm over there.

    Westmtn
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  6. _Keith

    About Cold Damage and Northern Gulf Coast 1 2 3 4 5

    by _Keith

    If you are on the northern Gulf Coast you got stung hard this year, From Houston to the Florida Panhandle it was brutal. Coldest temps here in Louisiana in the last 28 years, not once but in 2 separate cold fronts just 2-3 weeks apart. The first one was dry, so I held out hope, but the 2nd came in colder and wetter at 17 degrees. By midsummer I expect total foliage loss on all Phoenix, Livistona, Washingtonia, Syagrus species. Mules will be 90% foliage loss by midsummer. Deaths will be numerous, hurts to even think about it. Sabals, Butia, Chamaerops, Chamaedorea remain untouched. Why do I say "by midsummer"? Because only when the heat arrives and the crow…

    ShadowNight030
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  7. Jason-Palm king

    Northern most coconut palm tree??? Daytona beach 1 2

    by Jason-Palm king

    I took this pic today after lunch with the wife....this coconut palm is in south Daytona close to A1A. This must have been planted after 2010.....is this the most northern coconut ???

    Aceraceae
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  8. palm tree man

    Sabal Riverside 1 2 3

    by palm tree man

    This one of the first palms that I grew from seed and even now no one really knows what it is or how it came to reside in a private garden in Riverside California. It is tougher than nails and can take hot, cold, ice, snow, drought, dampness and really always looks great. It is a species of Carribbean origin and possibly a hybrid between one of the large Cuban or Dominican species and possibly Sabal Texana, Palmetto, or Bermudana. I know the stories about the all seed growing true from the original plant and that the original plant has been lost in time so to speak and the road construction story, but all stories aside what is it really? Next to one of…

    Jubaea_James760
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  9. SEVA

    Queen after first winter in Virginia 1 2 3 4

    by SEVA

    January 10

    climate change virginia
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  10. Alicehunter2000

    Sabal causiarum 'Lisa' 1 2

    by Alicehunter2000

    I'm calling out Tom GA to provide more photographic evidence of this palms existence. Much like the BigFoot of the Northwest, or the Loch Ness Monster; Sabal causiarum 'Lisa' seems like it might be a hoax to lure tourists to the Bamboo Farm in Georgia. Just like those 'monsters', all we have is one grainy photo as "proof" of this Monster Palm's existence. Here it is......... So is it real....or an elaborate prank?

    fr8train
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  11. palmsnbananas

    Rhopalostylis Sapida Cold Tolerance/Hardiness - Any info appreciated! 1 2 3

    by palmsnbananas

    So I've been scouring this site trying to find some mention of R. Sapida's, or the genus in general's, cold tolerance. Does anyone have any reports of this palm even having any damage in the cold and at what temperature? What is the lowest temperature anyone with this palm has seen? Also does anyone have info on cold hardiness of the different forms? I'm sure between the members on this board we could get a great idea of how much it can handle, any info is appreciated! If it is true that this palm can take sub 24 deg and survive then I am about to plant a triple! I was thinking of the R. Sapida Oceana - (im not even sure what that means? is that the one with whi…

    john_tas
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  12. Dartolution

    Sabal blackburniana Inquiry 1 2 3 4 5

    by Dartolution

    I have found it increasingly difficult to find good information on this cultivar. Does anyone have any experience with this sabal, or know of references I can check out for information about its culture? I have one on the way soon and want to make sure I know as much as possible. Thanks

    steve617
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  13. TexasColdHardyPalms

    Sabal Uresana varieties & cold hardiness 1 2 3

    by TexasColdHardyPalms

    During this winter I have noticed a big difference between seed stock of Sabal Uresana and upon further investigation it appears that there are two distinct populations of this species. The costal form is more blue/green in color and from what I can tell is more of a zone 8 palm. I have had various damage on this species from 100% defoliation on smaller 5G plants in the ground to 75% defoliation on larger 5-6' tall (overall) plants in the ground. There is also a reported Mountain form that is silver/white even from the first leaf (same color as a B. Armata) and this palm appears to be zone 7 hardy. I had zero damage on three leaf plants in 1G pots (100% frozen…

    Turtile
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  14. _Keith

    Cold Hardy Palm List. 1 2

    by _Keith

    This is a nice list. Who wants to poke holes in the temperatures listed? http://www.hardiestpalms.com/ColdHardyPalmList.htm

    dida
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  15. Mauna Kea Cloudforest

    Comprehensive Hardiness List 1 2

    by Mauna Kea Cloudforest

    This new forum split is confusing, but since this is about hardiness, i will post it here even though this doesn't qualify as "hardy" by the measure that palms grow natively here. Has anyone seen this list of hardiness results? It has quite a number of surprises, some rather tropical palms turn out to be pretty hardy. Now hardy for me means it can take some dips into the upper 20's, i.e. -2C at most in the open before I see any damage. This list was compiled by a nursery in Cornwall, UK, and while it's mild down there, i expect most of those specimens were small. http://www.trebrown.com/documents/climate/palmhardinesstrials.php Some of this information is hig…

    Cikas
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  16. sonoranfans

    cold hardy blue palms 1 2 3

    by sonoranfans

    I consider 9a and below cold hardy zones since perhaps only 5% of all palms are tough enough to handle 9a. The choices for palms in cold hardy zones does include a large number of blue or bluish colored palms. I was thinking that some examples would be useful for the cold hardy gardener who doesnt know of allt he choices and how they look. I'll start it off with Brahea Clara, a nice blue palm that can take down to 20F or so and it can also take some "florida style" humidity. Brahea clara is also a pretty fast growing palm in my yard. this one was bought in jan 2011 as a strap leaf seedling from Tejas tropicals, called Brahea Clara "icy blue". I was a bit disappointe…

    Phoenikakias
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  17. Scot from SC

    Comparing Growth Rates of Various Sabals 1 2

    by Scot from SC

    I hope that this topic has not been exhausted in some thread that I missed. In addition, I know that location and amount of rain/water, among other factors, affect growth rates. We all know that Sabals love heat, and most would agree that without necessary summer heat, even in an area with milder winters, Sabals can decline or stall out so to speak. Let's assume that the growth rates are based on most of the zone 8 and up areas of the southern United States. I would love to see data from other areas, but I have to go with what I know. My question is, how would you rank popular Sabals in terms of speed of growth. I know the old adage that "The first year they s…

    Collectorpalms
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  18. Keys6505

    Big Box Store Finds 2022 1 2 3 4 7

    by Keys6505

    I just posted the other day about some Chamadorea that I saw at Lowes and ran into something else today so I figured I'd just make a thread where i could post this stuff. Don't want to fill up the forum with new posts every time I get overstimulated from seeing a new potted tree. Anyways, picked up 2 Adonidia today at Wally's for $25 each in League City TX. Might be old news to you FL folk, but I don't see them for sale here often due to being out of zone. Pretty good size for $25 I think.

    howfam
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  19. Aldert

    Trachycarpus WagnerianusXPrinceps 1 2

    by Aldert

    For some years I was trying to make this cross. After being hold up by some one who had the Princeps male flowering for some years already, I finally succeeded in pollinating my Waggy with pollen from a dutch palm enthousiast. The result off sowing some seeds in January, is so far two seedlings. I think that the seeds behave as the true Princeps, a few will germinate in the first year, and the others the years to come.

    Joe NC
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  20. tank

    Jubaea x syagrus cold tolerance 1 2 3

    by tank

    Finally threw down the cash for one of these a couple months ago and was hoping to plant it out in the most prominent spot in my yard as a centerpiece next spring. The large yucca that is planted there has finally succumbed to weevils and I decided to give this hybrid a try in its spot. This spot is also very exposed and will get the brunt of any cold we get. I can generally expect mid 20sF to upper teens every year in my yard. Any info on cold tolerance information for this hybrid is appreciated. Thanks! Jason

    climate change virginia
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  21. Bill Nanaimo

    Mulch or Rocks at the trunk/base of your palm tree 1 2

    by Bill Nanaimo

    What’s your opinion Rocks vs Mulch at the base and why ?

    jwitt
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  22. Allen

    Palm Protection Method Photos Master Thread 1 2 3 4 5

    by Allen

    Please post your palm protection photos for those who ask this time of year. Post your photos and what zone you've tested this in. Here are mine for 7a Trachycarpus Thermocube, Mini lights and temp sensor Wrapped 1.5 oz dewitt frost cloth Circle fence cover wrapped again in frost cloth, staked down. Box method with plastic, notice angled roof, ample vents, blackout fabric on sun side. Pegboard for top

    ChicagoPalma
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  23. Collectorpalms

    Pacific Northwest Arctic Outbreak? 1 2 3 4 9

    by Collectorpalms

    GFS seems like it wants to target you guys with some very bitter temperatures. Below zero for Seattle and low single digits in Portland. GFS nailed Texas last year this far in advance.

    Paradise Found
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  24. Mauna Kea Cloudforest

    sabal yapa 1 2 3

    by Mauna Kea Cloudforest

    I planted a 3 footer in my lower garden this Summer, it's fully frost exposed where it's planted. After reading the hardiness entry for it, wondering if I should move it under some place where it can get some overhead canopy protection.

    Walt
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  25. Scott W

    First Germination xButiagrus seed

    by Scott W

    Woooooooooo! Super excited to find first germination from the mule palm seed purchased from @ErikSJI back in November! Can't wait to see the rest start to pop! I layered the seed similar to how Erik does, then buried in soil over heat mats with the temperature set to 92F and then plastic for a humidity dome over that. Seed trays are in a small greenhouse attached to my house, gets full late morning and afternoon sun.

    NWpalms@206
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  26. RJ

    More cold hardy mule? Perhaps.... 1 2

    by RJ

    So I don't tend to post many picks of hybrids I've purchased from Patric until I get a chance to get an idea of what they will look like. I've always really liked the Yatay mule that @_Keith has that is a showstopper. So I did purchase a few from Patric last year and they are now starting to go pinate. However in talking with Patric he peaked my interest when he mentioned he had a Yatay X (Mule). Now from my understanding Mules tend to have sterile pollen so it's pretty interesting that patric has pulled this cross off. After a few questions directed at patric and a little digging the mule pollen came from one of two palms that @Gtlevine has in his amazing garden. These …

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