COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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copernicia alba
by sonoranfans- 2 followers
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About two years ago ken Johnson stopped by with a delivery. He brought with him an extra palm, copernicia alba. It was a sad looking palm that ken said had been sitting in a container too long. I was concerned that it might not be so easy to make it happy. But ken said it would not be a problem as these are the easiest copernicias to grow. So I put it in the ground sept 2011, and the first year it grew a few elongated fronds, but the second summer it just started launching spears and is still doing so in october. You can see the first years growth is near horizontal and the second years growth obviously upright. Here are the before and after pics sept 2011 and sep…
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Anyone try these Super cold Hardy Mules? 1 2
by Palm crazy- 4 followers
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The cross goes like this... Butia x Jubaea x Butia x Syagrus. Palms are being developed by Moultrie Nursery in St. Augustine, Fl. Has anyone tried this super mule? Cold hardiness has not been tested but they are saying super cold like 7b is not out of the question...WHAT? That sounds too good to be true! What type of Butia and Syagrus are they using that would produce such a cold hardy mule. Hmmm?
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I have been trying to research this question on historic PalmTalk threads, but I have yet to find someone who can say that they have seen a Kentiopsis Oliviformis survive 18 degrees Fahrenheit. Is this possible? To your knowledge, what is the record low temperature for a Kentiopsis Oliviformis to have survived, even with significant damage or defoliation? Someone just posted on another thread that these trees survive in Houston, Texas, although they do grow slowly there.
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Butia Odorata vs Catarensis Cold hardiness
by TexasColdHardyPalms- 1 follower
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I've mentioned the difference between the larger Odorata that is typically seen and grown in Texas, LA, and California vs the smaller Catarensis commonly found in Florida. Here are pictures of both large, mature species that are all less than 8' from each other that went through this winter at my house in which an ultimate low of 13.1 was recorded. The Catarensis are very well established having been there for a number of years while the Odorata is a newer planting just 16 months old and less healthy/established. Additionally the JxB F1 are north of the house and have zero damage whatsoever.
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DeFuniak Palm
by Swolte- 5 followers
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PDN is offering this palm and I couldn't resist giving it a try. There's very little information on web on this specific variety so please let me know if you have anything else! Here's the description from PDN: "This is a limited offering of seed grown plants from an odd, but well-known palm in the Florida panhandle town of DeFuniak Springs, spotted for its unusual character by a number of palm fanatics through the years. Thanks to Alabama palm guru, Hayes Jackson for sharing seed. Palm experts agree that the trunk looks like Sabal bermudiana, while the top more closely resembles Sabal minor var. louisiana. Some folks think it may be a Sabal minor x palmetto hybri…
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Phoenix dactylifera in uk
by palm789- 11 replies
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Does anyone know if you can get these palms in the uk
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Sago Palm care
by PashkaTLT- 1 follower
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Hello guys, Here's the info I gathered from multiple sources. Please see and share if you want to add something or disagree on some points. Soil It grows best in sandy, well-drained soil, preferably with some organic matter. It needs good drainage or it will rot. Soil pH: Acidic (5.5–6.5) Sago palms aren't overly picky about their soil, as long as they have good drainage. A sandy soil that's somewhat rich in organic matter and slightly acidic to neutral soil pH is ideal. For container plants, a potting mix made for cactus or palms should be suitable. Light bright, indirect light The leaves can bleach somewhat if moved from indoors to ful…
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Trachycarpus fortunei in zones 9 and warmer
by JMBreland- 22 replies
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In preparation for the palm segment of the "Ornamental Grasses and Their Cousins" garden tour at Jacksonville Zoo and Gardens, I'm realizing that I don't really have a clear answer why Trachycarpus fortunei, windmill palm, tend to not do well in zones 9 and warmer. It is known in palm circles that windmills prefer cooler climates, love clayey soils, and appreciate some shade in zones 8 and warmer, so I realize heat is a factor. Yet, I don't believe that is all of it. I have seen healthy specimens in warm locales. Dr. Wilcox suggested that nematodes are the culprit. For the southeastern US, the areas that are zones 9 and warmer are coastal areas and peninsular Florida.…
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I've used Ferti-Lome root stimulator for my larger palms while planting them in ground. I'm very approximate in the amount I add to a gallon of water (usually a teaspoon or 2 full). Don't try this with smaller more tender palms. I've used them on small (3 feet and under) palms such as chamaedorea radicalis, livistona nitida and brahea edulis. One of my two radicalis' is showing major signs of fertilizer burn while the other one is showing very small amounts of leaf discoloration. One of my nitidas is showing signs of it from the outer tip of the leaf inwards- although I don't know if this has to do with it opening up a new set of fresh fronds. I'll post updated pictures w…
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My palms south of France
by alohas- 1 follower
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hi everyone, I've been looking into palmtalk for several years now and l learnt a lot in these pages, so it's time to post some pics of my garden. I have an extended collection of cold hardy palms (hybrids, sabals, braheas etc), my garden is in zone 8b, with warm and dry summers, winters are cool and rainy. There is a lot of wind all year long. And I'm also infested with paysandisia archon unfortunately. My biggest mule (butia x syagrus santa catarina) sabal sp tifton Sabal sp with brahea decumbens Butia odorata also with brahea decumbens Brahea armata and a very fast and hardy syagrus from southern Brazil (parana) …
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Starting a Washingtonia from seed 1 2
by MSX- 64 replies
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Hello palmtalkers! I've already had some experience of germinating Butia and now I'm starting my second palm from scratch - Washingtonia, possibly a pure filifera. This is a motherpalm, located in Termez, Uzbekistan. This Washy is 13 years old and it's fruiting for the first time this year. At age of 6-7 it managed to survive an extreme cold snap in february 2014, with a low temperature of -22C (-7.6F), the lowest recorded temperatures in the whole region, and continuous 168 hours of subfreezing temperatures, this is what makes this specimen interesting. These seeds arrived to me Cleaned and soaking in the water
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Medjool date palm or Canary Island date palm zone 7b/8a
by climate change virginia- 2 followers
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Hi I was wondering should I plant a Medjool date palm or a Canary Island date palm in zone 7b/8a. I don't know if I made this same forum but if I did please tell me and post on the other one. Thank you
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Palms for New Orleans (9a/9b) 1 2
by CrescentCity- 3 followers
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I am looking for some tropical looking palms to add to my new home. I am looking at both archontophoenix cunninghamiana, chambeyronia macrocarpa and burretiokentia hapala. Pictured is my 15g king that has made it through two winters straight here with no protection. Any recommendations would be helpful.
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Two days of 21-22f in north TX 1 2
by TexasColdHardyPalms- 3 followers
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It was a record tying cold for us early November with very unusual cold so early in the year. We have since had a few weeks of 70-82F weather so all the damage is showing. This storm had 36hrs of 20-40mph wind and the first morning we dropped to 22F and only warmed to 38. The second morning was a very heavy frost and dropped to 21F. Cycas Diannensis burned Cycas Revoluta x Micholitzii on left, Revoluta x Debaoensis in center, Diannensis on Right Panzhihuensis x debao on far left, bifida , debaoensis and then another hybrid that I can't remember off the top of my head. Here is an interesting group of Cycas Taitungensis. They are …
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My first cold freeze; Phoenix Canariensis
by smithgn- 11 replies
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Hey everybody, I've got my first test coming up this coming Monday. Temperatures in my area are suppose to hit as low as 14 degrees Monday night. My Phoenix Canariensis has been a trooper so far this winter, showing no signs of any damage in temps reaching the mid-20's, 4x's this winter. This past Friday (for practice, for this Mondays frigid temps), I tied the fronds up and tied a rather thick blanket around my 4 foot tree. Luckily for me, it turned out to be a good idea since it got down to about 21 degrees that night. Anyways, to the point of this post... That Monday, I'll be working late, no way of getting home before 7:30. By that time temps are already projected…
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Butyagrus eriospatha
by Raniked- 26 replies
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Here is a Butyagrus eriospatha in the ground for almost 4 years in Brittany (France) Can you share pictures of yours?
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Butia Eriospatha x Jubaea
by Bananengeknl- 1 follower
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Here my Erio x Jub (BxJ) pushing three new leaves.
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Brazos Valley Palm Recovery Thread 1 2 3
by Teegurr- 1 follower
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This thread is here to document palm recoveries from the Feb 2021 freeze, specifically in the Brazos Valley. Brazos Valley counties: Brazos, Burleson, Robertson, Leon, Madison, Grimes, Washington. @JohnAndSancho Huntsville is fine. @Collectorpalms @Swolte @Xenon Thank you all!
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Kentiopsis Olivaformis
by palm tree man- 1 follower
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I have had a Kentiopsis Olivaformis for years now because it is a really cool palm and it has a beautiful crownshaft. For years I wanted one after reading "The Encyclopedia of Cultivated Palms" almost religiously every night before going to bed. One thing that has shocked me is its cold tolerance. I didn't really expect for it to be so cold tolerant. Mine is in a 15 gallon pot, but it did get left out in the elements this winter on accident and it did see 26 degrees with no frost and looked fine afterward. After this mishap, I started doing some research on what others have experienced with this majestic palm. Most are reporting that it is hardier than both common k…
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Hardier queen provenances 1 2
by stevethegator- 1 follower
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So with the recent cold there has been a lot of talk about queens, and how the ones grown commercially are primarily from tropical-sourced seed and not very hardy. My question is, after the freezes in the 80s killed a lot of them, and with the recent cold waves beginning to do the same, why hasn't a larger effort been made to grow queens from hardier provenances like South Brazil? Possible answer: commercial growers benefit from the queens dying every 10-20 years, because then people have to keep buying more. But due to the popularity of the queen it would seem someone could make a buck selling a more cold-tolerant variety
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JUBAEA X QUEEN. who has them? 1 2
by Love them palms- 3 followers
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Just got my second Jubaea x Queen today from my trusted palm seller.who else has these beautiful trees.how common are they? Show off yours. They are perfect for the Pacific Northwest Z8B
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Realistically I know the plants are listed hardy to Zone 8, which would mean they tolerate down to 10F, however I think that would defoliate the palm from what I’ve read. My idea is to keep my tree in a hole in the ground in a pot until it gets too cold outside and then put it on a cool porch (above freezing) for the winter and then take it out early in the spring and put it back in the hole. It’s going from a cool porch in the spring to outside, not indoors so I’m assuming I wouldn’t shock the plant as it wouldn’t be actively growing? I’d like to not defoliate the plant in the process, but I’d also like to take advantage of the fact it tolerates sub-freezing temperature…
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Snow Palms in ABQ
by ChrisA- 1 follower
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Well winter has really hit New Mexico now. We were forecasted to get 5-8 inches of snow, but got just over an inch. Below are pictures of my Filibusta covered with snow. We've gotten down in the low 20's but with snow having sat on them all day with now warmth I expect I will lose the played out fronds. Below are the photos and a photo of our extended forecast. This is going to be one hell of a winter! The forecast for the next 30 days, and hopefully it's not accurate, foretells about 20 that are mid teens or lower. Yuck!!! At least we avoided the blizzard the plains received.
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Windmill Palms first winter. 1 2
by siege2050- 44 replies
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I have six Windmills all going through their first winter in the ground. I uncovered the 4 smaller 1 gallon tonight because its supposed to be 51F tomorrow and did not want them to fry. A couple of nights ago they went through their first 9F degrees and so far I can't see any damage after uncovering so hopefully no spear pull. I did not use lights for heat on the 1 gallon, only a wrapping of Dewitt Ultimate frost cloth rated to stay up to 10F warmer underneath and a layer of bubble wrap with a plastic bag over it all.
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Worried about my Trachy... 1 2
by jfrye01@live.com- 1 follower
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I'm not sure how much I'm supposed to water her (it?) ...I'm watering every other day with a half gallon watering can, don't know if this is too much or not enough...my palm is about 4 feet tall with a foot or so of trunk, currently potted in the house. I want her to be nice and healthy when I plant her this spring...the tips of a couple of fronds are drying out...I don't want her to shrivel up and die, I'm new to this, any ideas? Thanks! (I tend to personify my palms, maybe I'm nuts? ) (Here's a picture of my Trachy taken about 3 minutes ago, healthy, or too dark?)
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