COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Trachycarpus Fortunei and Full Sun?
by smithgn- 1 follower
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Does anyone have a Trachy in full sun? I have two, both about 3-4 feet tall in spots that receive absolute full sun; at least 6 hours of direct, unobstructed sunlight a day. I've read that Trachy's generally like the shade and do pretty well in bright sunny spots, but I was wondering if anyone has their Trachy's in full sun like I do? As for mine, my two have fared quite well. It was kind of an experiment at first since I got both of them for very cheap. They're in ground and putting out new fronds regularly. Although, during one week when I was out of town, temperatures got into the high 90's and hit 100 a couple of days. This had been during a time of 2 weeks with l…
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Why is Sabal mexicana seldom grown east of Texas? 1 2
by Sabal_Louisiana- 2 followers
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I suspect it is because most growers in the Southeast don't think about it. It is seldom supplied by nurseries because the default of its type for the region is the common S. palmetto. The two species look so similar anyway. However, it might be just different enough to add a little unique flavor to the landscape. I'm sure someone is apt to mention that S. Mexicana is better adapted to the drier climate of Texas but if it can be grown in humid Houston why not elsewhere? Likewise, cold hardiness should not be an issue for the deep South anyway. Also, I am wondering how far north can S. Mexicana be cultivated in the south central US? My guess is to the Red River, or ju…
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The #1 Main Contender for Cold Tolerant Dypsis Champion of the World! 1 2
by palm tree man- 2 followers
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I know among the Dypsis that we are currently growing in cultivation that Dypsis Decipiens is the cold hardy champion, but who is second in line? Is it Ambositrae from the same habitat? Or would you place a clumper in the runnings such as Onilahensis or Baronii? What about Dypsis Saintelucei; I have heard some really great things about it as well. What say you ladies and gentlemen? I am sure there are many more that can be added to this very meager list.
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I bought this in Knoxville, TN from a nursery about 7 or 8 years ago, and it has been sitting in a pot since then in my mother's yard in Gainesville, FL. I finally got around to separating the pups today. Here's what it looked like stilll in the pot. I think it's a 15 gallon, maybe 20 gallon pot. Closeup. Took it out of the pot and it was clear I had a job cut out for me!
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Growing a Canary Island Date Palm in New York City 1 2
by Nomad NYC- 2 followers
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Hello! This is my very first post in the PalmTalk! I've lurked here on and off over the years, but only recently joined this forum. This new thread will document my "insane" project of trying to grow a Canary Island Date Palm ( aka Phoenix Canariensis ) here in Southern Queens, New York City - currently in Zone 7B. I've always interested in growing exotic types of plants all my life. But I first became aware of this particular palm after managing to germinate some seeds that I picked up from in front of a very big pot-bound Canary Island Date Palm that happened to be in front of the United States Botanic Garden (USBG), while I was visiting Washington DC back…
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Are Sabal guatemalensis and Sabal mexicana the same palm? I want to add some especially after seeing these in this thread: These look great! Big robust palms more so then the common petite in comparison S. Palmeto I have by the hundreds around me.
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How long before cold hardy palms start growing post storm? 1 2 3
by Sabal King- 3 followers
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So we have some larger 15G+ Windmills, Texas Sabals, and Mexican Fan Palms around our pool area and they all have a varying degree of green post the storm. The Windmills have nice green tight spears, and the sabal is actively pushing a tiny spear from its center. They all got copper now twice since the thaw happened (mild copper) just in the event we had some fungi issues. In general, with the weather looking nice how quickly should we start seeing visible growth? I marked the new spears so I can track progress but nothing noticeable quite yet. Located in the DFW area.
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I am going to be using heat cables this year to protect my palms through the winter. I'm looking at either the Frost King cables with built in thermostats or the "Prime Wire" on Amazon which don't have a thermostat but I'd then use a thermostat such as the Farm Innovators TC-3. I am wiring circuits for these so was concerned about total amp draw but looks like I'll be fine. For any others interested, here's the data I've gotten on the cables and thermostats: Frost King - 7w/ft - Max @15A =257ft, Max @20A = 342ft Prime Wire - 5w/ft - Max @15A = 360ft Max @20A = 480ft Frost King built in thermostat unit: On 38F / Off 45F Frost King separate thermosta…
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This is bad. Ft. Worth is having rotating outages. 1 2 3
by WestCoastGal- 3 followers
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Just read a post from a fellow member on another forum who lives in the Ft. Worth area. Said his outdoor temp was at 6F and their utility was saying rotating outages were starting and asking for conservation. He just posted he lost power and his house heat had been set to 62F which to me is already pretty cold. Apart from devastated landscaping, concerns over frozen pipes (let your water drip in your sinks), now we have real concerns about people loosing power/heat and getting so cold inside they get sick on top of covid rates high. Heart goes out to all of you in this freeze.
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Just ordered my Chamaerops humilis var. cerifera!!!
by mdsonofthesouth- 2 followers
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So on a whim I checked out my wishlist at plant delights nursery and saw that the Chamaerops humilis var. cerifera were being sold again! I have been looking to get these to match my standard chamerops humilis for a while now. So I promptly ordered 2 (might order more lol) to start with and will be garage "greenhouse" keeping them until at least March 2018. Depending on size and health come spring will determine if I plant or just pot up again and "greenhouse" them for another winter. Eitherway great way to spend your lunch break!
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Does Anyone Know What Variety of Mediterranean Fan Pamm This Is? 1 2
by PalmTreeDude- 40 replies
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Does anyone know what variety of Mediterranean Fan Palm this is? Does it have a certine variety or are only certain ones recognized as a certain variety? Does anyone know where mine may have ancestors from (Like West/East Mediterranean etc.)? I know I need to weed around it again (center trunk has always been dead and I have not protected this last winter at all expecting it to die, but it survived, I was going to replace it with something else) and I will mulch.
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Sabal uresana in Austin, Texas 1 2 3
by MASOALA JASON- 1 follower
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The recent polar vortex nuclear winter event caused immense destruction in many ways and I lost about 25% of my landscape. I had a low of 8F on morning of February 15th and 7F on morning of February 16th. Starting on previous Thursday there was freezing rain that was followed by a large snowfall event then freezing rain then more snow. Temperatures remained below freezing for a consecutive 144 hours. The Sabal uresana individuals in my yard had to remain uncovered as I ran out of freeze covers since I had put them on all my more sensitive plants. I have two forms of Sabal uresana in my yard. One is a faster growing lighter blue variety that purportedly was collected at sl…
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Chamaedorea Radicalis after zone 8a winter
by Brad Mondel- 28 replies
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Coming back strong after zone 8a winter. You can even see that it has inflorescences if you look close. I'm shocked at how hardy these are. This is located back at home in Myrtle Beach S.C There's a fried Santa Catarina queen in the bottom left that didn't make it. I'm not home to maintain the palms so they are not up to par.
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Mule Palms in Texas
by Collectorpalms- 2 followers
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Hello, in a previous post I mentioned that I was told Lowes in Texas would be bringing in Mule palms according to a nursery manager friend from Acosta. I haven't been to Lowes this week but I went to Acosta website. I found in the picture gallery 7 gallon mules. That seems right, too bad I was hoping they might have 25 gallons, lol I have seen very large ones in Houston private nurseries, but too much too $$ to truck load 90 miles each way. When they grow so fast anyhow.
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Thee Washingtonia Filifera of Wilmington, NC
by frienduvafrond- 2 followers
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Jubaea x butia yatay 1 2 3 4
by NWpalms@206- 2 followers
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Does anyone have pictures of bigger jubaea x yatay? We’ve all liked the opposite yatay x jubaea but I can seem to find pics of the former…
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Tall Windmills 1 2 3
by BigBilly- 5 followers
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So I wanted a thread for the tall windmills. I know there are definitely some 20+ ft tall ones out there.
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Huge Needle Palm at Watercountry USA (Williamsburg, VA)
by PalmTreeDude- 2 followers
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A month ago I was at Watercountry here in Williamsburg and I saw this really nice Needle Palm. I just randomly found the picture on my phone I forgot I did not post it yet. There were also a lot of trachys there.
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Sabal causiarum's Slow Recovery
by Alicehunter2000- 34 replies
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Thought I would share a few pics on the recovery of the big Sabal causiarum that was transplanted into the garden last year. As you can see the petiole's remained green but the fronds got pretty much toasted. I'm just glad it survived the worst winter in 25 years here. Hopefully this winter will be mild and it will harden up to future freezes when it gets more established.
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Northeast/Mid Atlantic Palm Discussion 1 2
by Nj Palms- 53 replies
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Hey all I created this forum for people in the Northeast/Mid Atlantic to discuss and banter about palms in our region!Post any sightings in stores or your own.Any interesting things about palms is also accepted, and of course any questions or concerns are more than welcome to be posted on this sub forum!Thanks for all the information you guys provide.
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Sabal Minor how diverse are they really?
by palm tree man- 1 follower
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How many varities of Sabal Minor are there really? I have four specimens that cannot be identified by experts at three different major universities; by individuals possessing doctorate degrees and that specialize in our native species. Yet, no one can accurately identify them. They don't even really attempt to and only can safely give reasons why they aren't consistent with what is in the norm for minor or palmetto. How diverse can one species be before it is justly studied and divided into proper classifications? The might Brazoria palm is considered in some circles to be a Sabal minor or a Sabal Minor Louisiana. Then there is the other mysterious trunking Sabal in…
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Sabal palmetto vs birmingham hardiness 1 2
by Ben OK- 2 followers
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I thought this was a pretty good testament to the difference in hardiness between sabal palmetto and birmingham sabals. I don't think we got below 10F to 12F at my house this winter, though we did have a spell or two where we went between 2 to 3 days without getting above freezing. We had a few small snow events, none more than about 1.5" at a time. The birmingham is in the SW corner of an L-shaped bed on the south and west sides of my garage. Both are shielded from north winds by the house. Here is the difference between the two at my house given the above winter conditions:
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Bringing Palms in for the winter
by Rightstuff15- 1 follower
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I have a Mexican Fan and Windmill Palm in containers outside. I plan to bring them in the garage during the winter months. The garage only has one small window on the westside. I plan to ensure that the temperature never dips below the point that would cause them harm. Should I use grow lights during their winter storage or let them go 'dormant'?
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Sabal Louisiana in habitat
by jfrye01@live.com- 1 follower
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Took a little trek from my home in Kansas down to central Louisiana in search of native Sabals. I hit the jackpot! These palms grow vigorously from Alexandria and south...I was able to collect seed from several palms, unfortunately, they are infested with weevil eggs, so I must find a way to kill these before the weevils invade the seeds (any tips from the experts here? I've never had luck killing these unless I freeze the seeds, but I'm guessing there's probably a better way). I found some massive palms near Alexandria, these must be ancient. I'll post pictures shortly.
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Some Cold Damage Observations
by buffy- 1 follower
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After surveying the initial damage of this last freeze, I have a couple of observations to share. My thermometer stated 17.9F, but I'm guessing ground level saw around 15F. Mazari 'Kashmir' is much tougher than the "very silver" Mazari palms. The silver form just got smoked. Leaves burned 100%. The meristem area looks bad. May recover, but ugly. 'Kashmir' is untouched. Piling leaves over small palms and plants as protection is remarkable. Everything I covered with leaves looks untouched. That includes avocados, some small Dypsis, Livistonas, etc. Remarkable. My Butia x Parajubaea cocoides is a disappointment. It doesn't appear to possess much of the cold tolerance o…
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