COLD HARDY PALMS
Selecting and growing palms for colder climates.
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Hi everyone, I'm new to palmtalk (and to palms) and have found this forum extremely helpful and informative so far--thank you all! I moved to Florida (Gainesville) last year and have been updating the landscaping the past few weeks. I bought a mature mule palm at a local nursery, but it was the only one available, and in a rush I might not have ended up with the best looking one. The nursery installed it around two weeks ago, and it has been infested with ants ever since (fire ants, I think; the bites look like big pimples). I first noticed the ants around the base, where there's a slightly hollowed out area of the trunk. The hollowed out area isn't soft, and I know …
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True Blue Cocos
by DAVEinMB- 1 follower
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Not necessarily a cold hardy palm post haha but anyways here ya go. Made my yearly trip to true blue yesterday and was surprised to see these.
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True hardiness of Beccariophoenix alfredii?
by Haddock- 1 follower
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Beccariophoenix alfredii aka “Madagascar high land coconut” is a interesting palm, but it’s cold hardiness hasn’t been fully tested. I heard it’s hardy to the lower 20s when it’s young but what about mature specimens, how cold can they handle?
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True Palmettos
by DallasPalms- 6 replies
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What is the variability with Sabal Palmetto, does anybody know? A couple of places around here have these palmetto type trees which are obviously cold hardy, the same smaller palmetto tops, same looking leaves, everything as usual except for the thinner trunks, maybe a little over a foot where boots have dropped, with boots pointing upwards... same sized small seeds from what I could see... Most others that look like what I think is a Palmetto usually have a trunk around twice as thick. Does it vary as much in Florida? Dwarf in betweens? Just grown differently? They're well over my head... maybe 10 feet tall approx with a much different profile due to the thin…
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True Takil? Nainital?
by NWpalms@206- 1 follower
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Took my 2 Takil out of the greenhouse to breathe a little. Starting to see some differences to my fortunei for sure. But I know there was some mixup with Takil and Nainital, just wandering if anyone has seen similarities to this in either. Are these true? Any input/pics appreciated. The fronds are much stiffer as well, and They’re from a reputable source.
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Botany Bay Plantation, Charleston, South Carolina This is from the low country of South Carolina. Maybe not as palmy as the tropics, but it does have palms and a fascinating beauty all to its own. http://wanderingtrader.com/
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TRULY cold hardy palms ? For zone 6 ?
by The Silent Seed- 1 follower
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Has anybody consistently grown palms outside, in zone 6, without cheating? By cheating, I mean building structures around them, or wrapping them, or heating them, etc.
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Trunk cut?
by MaggieBlue2- 0 replies
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I have 2 washies that are about 5 years old...was told they were filifera but may be a filibusta. We live in the DFW area and they took a pretty bad hit in the freeze in February. After the weather passed, the leaves were quite bleached (not crispy brown) due to the snow but nothing on the tree was collapsed which we took as a positive sign. Other than the frond color they looked completely normal. As the lower fronds drooped and no green spots were remaining, we would cut them. I periodically give them a tug to see if there is spear pull and they have been firm until 3 days ago. The spear came out but the end was still bright white and fleshy and no odor was noted. I pu…
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Trunk diameter variation in Sabal palmetto
by DavidMac- 3 followers
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We have a little over 450 Sabal palmetto growing in the main campus of Florida State University in Tallahassee,FL zone 8b that show considerable variation. One of the things that has interested me is the difference in trunk diameter in specimens- I realize that there are a number of factors that can contribute to such variation-but I supect that genetics plays a strong role. Do you know of anyone who has documented some of these differences and/or has propagated "skinny" or "stocky" Sabal palmettos? Here is a photo showing some of this variation-one is growing at the Sandels Building, the other is behind the Strozier Library.
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Trunk progress on trachy in maine.
by Brandon James- 3 replies
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current trunk progress, summer 2021, summer 2020 and the current truck illuminated at night. Last winter it encountered zero degrees with sub zero windchills thru the cracks in the enclosure I left to hardy it more.
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Trunk size inquiry
by RyManUtah- 5 replies
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Plotting some beds out for development and was wondering about trunk size of Sabal minor & Brahea moorei. i know they aren’t “trunking” but I understand Sabal minor at least does grow a subterranean trunk, how much space would one need to account for things like patio / sprinkler pipes / retaining walls, etc? my searching leads my to pictures of trunking specimen.. one area is going to be full sun, that’s why I’m looking into Brahea moorei, as I prefer the look of more shaded S. Minor
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Trunked Sabal minor
by dekaoxtoyra- 1 follower
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Trunked Sabal minor in SE NC?
by Joe NC- 7 replies
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This palm had caught my eyes 6 or 7 years ago when I was stumbled across it in the forest along the Cape Fear River. It drew my attention because of it's large size (fronds taller than I could reach over my head, so a bit bigger than 8ft). I went back to the same spot in the woods last week and found this palm again. I was hoping to find seeds on this beast, but all the current and old flower stalks seem to dry out and abort before flowering. Now knowing much more about palms and their identification, a few things really stuck out to me this time. Besides being huge, this palm and the group of 4 other smaller palms that were around it all were located up on a sandy we…
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Trunking chamaedorea radicalis
by Tropicdoc- 1 follower
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I moved my palm from the thicket so I can appreciate it more it’s about 7 ft tall now!
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Trunking Chamaerops humilis
by WSimpson- 14 replies
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First a picture of my Washy at the end of the driveway . Then I have a picture of my Chammy's trunk , and another showing it next to my big Butia . It's It's Its hard to see my Chammy very well since the Butia has gotten so big over the last few years , but it is trunking and is 8' to the tip of the highest frond . It seemed like I planted them far enough apart but sometimes one miscalculates .
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Trunking Livistona in Columbia, SC?
by smithgn- 12 replies
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On another palm message board, I saw a post made by a guy that included various pictures of palms throughout the Columbia area. Most of them featured Butias, Palmettos, Serenoa Repens and some Filibustas. What really caught my eye was one Livistona. Above the picture in the thread he says it's a Livistona Decora. I'm not sure whether it's a Decora (Decipiens) or a Chinensis, but either way, it's pretty amazing that there's a surviving Livistona, much less, a trunking 15 to 20 foot Livistona in the Columbia area. The picture was taken in 2012 so I'm not sure if it survived the harsh winter last year and the winter before last, but just wanted to get everyones thoughts on i…
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Trunking palm for Raleigh, NC?
by knikfar- 15 replies
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We have a lot of windmill palms here in Raleigh. But I'm not a huge fan of their fuzzy trunks. So I've been looking into three alternatives. They are Sabal Birmingham, Louisianna and Bald Head Island. I've heard the BHI is marginal here and the Birmingham will take 30 years to develop a nice trunk. Does anyone know about Louisianna? Will it form a trunk fairly quickly or will I have to wait a decade?
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Trunkless Cold Hardy Palms
by ahosey01- 2 followers
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Going to try and plant a small understory layer of small, trunkless, cold hardy palms. Here’s my list so far: Sabal minor Rhapidophyllum histrix Serenoa repens Guihaia argyrata Are there any more worth considering? I already have Sabal etonia in a different part of the yard.
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Trunks
by GregVirginia7- 1 reply
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Was watering and weeding this morning and noticed the wet, sunny Needle and the Brazoria trunks’ have really grown…the needle in height and the Brazoria in diameter. There are two other Needle trunks behind the one in the photo that are pretty tall as well, though lagging behind the one here. The Brazoria trunk really thickened as it pushes two flower spikes and four new fronds…by season’s end it will have four fully released fronds…given its slow history, this is amazing…guess that taproot finally reached its destination… Happy to have a Needle clumping palm that is establishing a trunk since zone 7 doesn’t harbor a climate for a variety of trunking…
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Trying Sabal Minor in the Four Corners region 1 2 3
by Southwesternsol- 1 follower
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Over the last couple years I've been setting up my yard with native plants. Various cactus, desert shrubs, yuccas etc. I quite like palms though, and obviously there are no shrubby palms native to the southwest. So it seems the next best thing is Sabal Minor. Here's hoping it will survive. Ignore my half finished path way...
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Two days of 21-22f in north TX 1 2
by TexasColdHardyPalms- 2 followers
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It was a record tying cold for us early November with very unusual cold so early in the year. We have since had a few weeks of 70-82F weather so all the damage is showing. This storm had 36hrs of 20-40mph wind and the first morning we dropped to 22F and only warmed to 38. The second morning was a very heavy frost and dropped to 21F. Cycas Diannensis burned Cycas Revoluta x Micholitzii on left, Revoluta x Debaoensis in center, Diannensis on Right Panzhihuensis x debao on far left, bifida , debaoensis and then another hybrid that I can't remember off the top of my head. Here is an interesting group of Cycas Taitungensis. They are …
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Two diffrent Rhapis spss flowering
by Phoenikakias- 0 replies
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The first one is supposed to be R. humilis and the second one R. subtilis big form R humilis: R. subtilis: What is your opinion about their identity?
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Two for one. Have you ever done this?
by Ben G.- 2 replies
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I lost several smaller needles last winter after five or six different snow and ice events, with my lowest low being around 11F. I was able to save some needles that spear pulled, but some lost their main trunk/growth point. They will take so long to recover and grow large enough to look good again that I dug some up and replaced them (with other needles and some aucuba japonica). I had the idea to pot up two of the needles that lost their main trunk together in one pot. My thinking was that with multiple side trunks recovering in the same pot, it might grow back into something decent looking faster than either plant would individually. Perhaps root competition will hinde…
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Two small Oregon mules
by Chester B- 2 replies
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Both were purchased from TCHP a ways back as small strap leaf seedlings. The first one has been in the ground for a year and I think the second has been in two years. What surprised me is that with our awful weather this year I saw cosmetic damage to 50% of my Chamaerops but these two have none. The first one gets less sun so is a little more graceful looking. Due to the arching nature of the fronds overall height is about 3’.
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Two small Washy potted palms growing differently
by WSimpson- 1 follower
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It might be that there are slight differences in the soil that they are planted in or some other factor , but I was thinking that it might be genetic ? The one in the left picture is much more stout and has a fatter trunk and the one on the right grows taller with a thinner trunk . I'll probably have to wait till they a planted in the ground to see if it's genetic , but there are some early differences that may or may not make a difference once they are planted . I tend to think that it's possible that the on the left will have more Filifera in it , and the one on the right possibly more Robusta . I assume the shorter more stout one might be hardier once planted o…
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