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Ptychosperma elegans or adonidia

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I’ve heard a lot of people say some have adonidia Xmas palms actually were solitaire palms. What about mine? I feel lack of trust for us newbies. Another lesson learned I have 2. They were shade grown and reaching tall alotbod fronds broke off early  I left the old crowns on to decay naturally. Today I discovered that one crown I didn’t peel back caused a frond to rot and completely stopped a new spear from emerging 

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Premorse leaflets...I would say Ptychosperma.  Adonidia merrillii have normal leaflets.

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Funny, years ago I collected seed in Hawaii that I thought was Adonidia. It grew pretty well & I thought “hey, these aren’t too hard”. Turned out to be Ptychosperma, has a somewhat similar form & fruit color, at least to my untrained eye at the time. A couple years later I did collect Adonidia which sprouted easily but was much tougher to keep alive during winters. But I have one or two that are still chugging along. But I do still have some difficulty distinguishing between them when they’re as young as yours. Actually, both palms have the “chopped” leaflet tips. Ultimately Adonidia is a chunkier palm. I suspect a forum member from Florida can give you a definitive ID. Lord knows, they see enough of them. I always thought they were a beautiful palm..

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Ptychosperma for sure in my opinion. The “cupped” or folded leafs look just like my Ptychosperma. Slender uniform trunk also. I got from mine AzTropic.

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5 hours ago, quaman58 said:

Funny, years ago I collected seed in Hawaii that I thought was Adonidia. It grew pretty well & I thought “hey, these aren’t too hard”. Turned out to be Ptychosperma, has a somewhat similar form & fruit color, at least to my untrained eye at the time. A couple years later I did collect Adonidia which sprouted easily but was much tougher to keep alive during winters. But I have one or two that are still chugging along. But I do still have some difficulty distinguishing between them when they’re as young as yours. Actually, both palms have the “chopped” leaflet tips. Ultimately Adonidia is a chunkier palm. I suspect a forum member from Florida can give you a definitive ID. Lord knows, they see enough of them. I always thought they were a beautiful palm..

Thanks, for clearing me up.  Adonidia has less spacing between leaflets(overlapping) and their tapered tips obscure the fact that it is premorse as well. 

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Here's some pics of small Adonidia I have for comparison.

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… and here small Ptychosperma elegans in habitat:

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Thanks everyone. I figured so.  I have 2 pots. Each with 3 in them. Sold as adonidia from local palm guy. They were cheap and look good anyway. Funny thing is I brought ptychosperma seeds home from jamiaca and have one seedling and I looked at the other day and said to my self man my adonidias look like this little guy. Hence the thread. So definitely they shouldn’t be in one pot I’m guessing since the grow tall eh. The responses have been great. This does suck because I really wanted a pot of adonidias and haven’t had any luck from seed yet. Since I live in cold climate something I could enjoy for years to come is a better investment 

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1 hour ago, NOT A TA said:

Here's some pics of small Adonidia I have for comparison.

20181207_103453_zpsjolya6wf.jpg

20181207_103500_zpsnlesvvvn.jpg

20181207_103551_zps00rff2p2.jpg

Good pictures there. One thing I have noticed is that the Adonidia crownshaft is pretty clean looking, while the Ptyochosperma's has got some silvery coloration that runs up the petioles a ways.

noticed is that the Adonidia crownshaft is pretty clean looking, while the Ptychosperma has some silvery coloration going on that runs up the petioles a wasys.

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