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Pure D decaryi or hybrid?


Phoenikakias

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Hybrid for sure.  Never seen D. decaryi with a green trunk like that and a petite crown shaft.  

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Huntington Beach, CA

USDA Zone 10a/10b

Sunset Zone 24

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That was my guess as well; the crown looks really lutecsens shaped. Good looking palm!

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

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Buy it!

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On 11/13/2018, 9:54:20, Phoenikakias said:

Found this in a nursery near my place. Trunk and leaf boots look somewhat different from a genuine decaryi.

 

On 11/13/2018, 11:16:25, gilles06 said:

Buy it!

I'll second that recommendation.  Definitely not a typical looking D decaryi, so if it's not a hybrid, then it is a bit of a mutant.

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I use to have a similar D Decaryi hybrid it was D. decaryi X madagascariensis

But it's leaflets had a little bit of plumose effect that one doesn't.

Looks like it would be a nice palm if given some love.

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20 minutes ago, pigafetta said:

I use to have a similar D Decaryi hybrid it was D. decaryi X madagascariensis

But it's leaflets had a little bit of plumose effect that one doesn't.

Looks like it would be a nice palm if given some love.

Why not being a hybrid with D cabadae?

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I'd guess it's a pure D decaryi. Old plants kept in relatively small pots can grow to look quite different to those with more freedom. Green trunk, greater spacing between trunk rings and greener leaves could be due to being greenhouse grown previously.

Still an unusual and nice looking palm. Probably worth the chance of it turning out like a normal decaryi for the chance of having something unique.

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58 minutes ago, Phoenikakias said:

Why not being a hybrid with D cabadae?

Yeah i agree most likely cabadae or even pemba, even though all the decaryi x with cabadae ive seen before look more white on the crowshaft, but hybrids are often quite variable.

Personally i think it's a hybrid, although palms can be variable in growing conditions ad dacaryi can have some green to the trunk at times, you wouldn't get growth rings so far apart in a pot bound pure decaryi, but hybrids often have a faster growing rate then both parents for some reason.

 

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D. decaryi are not green like this palm...No green trunk/fronds.  The color on this palm alone does not look anything like a true D. decaryi, which has more glaucous fronds and grey trunk.  Can't say what the cross is with, but if I saw that palm at my nursery, it would be going home with me.  

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not a hybrid just stunted in the pot. I see this often in the nursery trade. cultural growth rates to its environment.

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

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I agree with josh. Looks just stunted in the pot. Green trunk could just be from lack of sun hitting it and not holding onto its leaves as long as it would in the ground and the leaf color would be that it’s not to healthy. I’ve seen this a lot with archintophoenix. 

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Well I sure as hell want a stunted decaryii then!  That thing looks wicked.

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I would buy it if ... What about the price? I can think two possibilities: it is an old palm (I suppose these are not very quick growers in your climate) unsold because the price is too high; or it is an old plant because nobody ever wanted to buy it and the nurseryman will give it away for a little money :-)

Would decaryi be hardy for you?

Beautiful anyway

Tomas

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Or it is just a greenhouse grown, stretched, under-potted  specimen, which after its first REAL winter outdoors is going to look quite differently coming spring, if at all...

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