Leucothrinax morrisii (key thatch ) seedling question

[Rickybobby]

Hey everyone. Noticed this today my key thatch seedling has an offshoot?  There was only one seed in this pot for sure. Didn’t know this could Happen. Wow?

[Neil C]

I looks like the new emerging second leaf has decided to come out in a different direction for whatever reason. Don't do it but I bet if you unearthed your seedling it would all be from the same seedling. If a second leaf comes up next to the first leaf get back to us.

Regards Neil

[Rickybobby]

Ok thanks maybe I’ll brush some soil back and see if it’s choked. Was late last night when I saw that and never thought of that. It’s my only thatch seedling and all the rest of my palms got huge before a second frond started so I assumed something was up

[Phoenikakias]

Maybe picture without scale is deceiving, but eophylle looks to big for this sp. Here is a juvenile 3 and half y. o. with a moisture meter for scale. 

Edited June 10, 2018 by Phoenikakias

[Rickybobby]

I was very careful brushes the soil back gently. It really looks like the frond is combing from the seed being in the middle of the two. I guess we will see in the next coupleo months. Interesting anyway

[Rickybobby]

Literally a second palm coming out of the seed

[PalmatierMeg]

Twins! Multiple embryos in one seed isn't uncommon.

[Rickybobby]

2 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

Twins! Multiple embryos in one seed isn't uncommon.

So here’s a question does this mean it will always be two palms or can it be gently separated some day? It is pretty cool. I guess it sucks for both because two palms are feeding off one seed 

[PalmatierMeg]

When they are larger and have developed separate root systems you can probably separate them if you are careful. The seed only feeds for a short time until photosynthesis takes over. Make sure they have lots of light. This species likes sun and heat.

[Rickybobby]

Update on this little guy. He is doing great but the second emerging palm/shoot  died off

[Rickybobby]

This is my oldest of 4. I’ve had great success with these so far. Seems to be a great palm for my deck patio pool and inside eventually 

[aztropic]

I don't think those are key thatch either...  Strap leaves are way to wide.Should be like grass. Seed is bb size or smaller... Yours almost looks like mexican fan palms.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

Edited September 14, 2018 by aztropic

[aztropic]

Here's a 10 year old key thatch in my garden I grew from seed.Not a fast palm for me...

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[aztropic]

Thrinax radiata,maybe only 2 or 3 years older has been a MUCH faster grow!

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[JubaeaMan138]

Man every time I see that glabrescens my heart stops haha such a great looking palm

[Rickybobby]

On 2018-09-13, 9:39:34, aztropic said:

Thrinax radiata,maybe only 2 or 3 years older has been a MUCH faster grow!

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

Do you think a company like seedman would give me Washingtonia filifera seeds when they were supposed to be key thatch? Or potentially it could be thrinax radiata? One thing I did notice somewhat fast germination.  But! When I did order Washingtonia seeds. They all germinated right away. Where as supposed key thatch   Was eradicated over a month or so

[PalmatierMeg]

4 hours ago, Rickybobby said:

Do you think a company like seedman would give me Washingtonia filifera seeds when they were supposed to be key thatch? Or potentially it could be thrinax radiata? One thing I did notice somewhat fast germination.  But! When I did order Washingtonia seeds. They all germinated right away. Where as supposed key thatch   Was eradicated over a month or so

Anything is possible. I never bought from that guy. Leucothrinax seedlings are much slower growing and look like grass for a long time. Washies grow and get large fast. Thrinax radiata is also slow but its leaves are much larger than Leucothrinax.

[Rickybobby]

Thanks everyone for your help. I will post in a few months again and see

[aztropic]

12 hours ago, Rickybobby said:

Do you think a company like seedman would give me Washingtonia filifera seeds when they were supposed to be key thatch? Or potentially it could be thrinax radiata? One thing I did notice somewhat fast germination.  But! When I did order Washingtonia seeds. They all germinated right away. Where as supposed key thatch   Was eradicated over a month or so

Key thatch seeds are the size of BB's or smaller.The other two are twice as big.

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

 

[Rickybobby]

Thanks everyone for your help. I will post in a few months again and see

ok some of the seedlings I have the seeds are tiny 

[aztropic]

Here is a pic of my now 6 month old key thatch seedlings in a 1 gallon pot for reference.I picked the seeds myself in the Bahamas so I know exactly what they are.The plants you were sold as key thatch,unfortunately,are not...

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

[Rickybobby]

1 hour ago, aztropic said:

Here is a pic of my now 6 month old key thatch seedlings in a 1 gallon pot for reference.I picked the seeds myself in the Bahamas so I know exactly what they are.The plants you were sold as key thatch,unfortunately,are not...

 

aztropic

Mesa,Arizona

Yes I agree.   But a smaller batch I have now 2 seedlings from look like yours. Somewhere last spring Washingtonias got mixed in. That’s ok I guess  

[The Germinator]

On 10/11/2018, 5:34:51, Rickybobby said:

Do you think a company like seedman would give me Washingtonia filifera seeds when they were supposed to be key thatch? Or potentially it could be thrinax radiata? One thing I did notice somewhat fast germination.  But! When I did order Washingtonia seeds. They all germinated right away. Where as supposed key thatch   Was eradicated over a month or so

It would be easy to to tell them apart if he did. Washy seeds are dark brown in color. in my experience Thrinax type seeds are much lighter in color and more round.