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Livistona decora / ribbon palms


Umbrae

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Planted some large ribbon palms at the nursery today, we had to clear out a spot for an upcoming house build , and i couldnt find a buyer for a quick sale so i decided to gussy up one of the shade houses ....

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I leaned them over like this so they will curve back and the heads shouldnt drop trash, seeds etc onto shade house, we will finish out landscaping with some copernicias and probably some more crotons ..altbough my crotons took one heck of a hit this last winter  

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Nice. That’s one palm I want in my collection. They’re so hard to come by though. Haven’t seen them for sale anywhere around here :(

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7 hours ago, Estlander said:

Nice. That’s one palm I want in my collection. They’re so hard to come by though. Haven’t seen them for sale anywhere around here :(

I have been trying to germinate some seeds but so far no luck either. Is this a tough palm or what?

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Here they grow like weeds, take the cold well, i have seen them on the side of interstate 45 in Houston headed to Galveston growing quite well with no maintenance or care. Seed if it is good and fresh should germinate quite easily 

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Hi,

hae some seedlings from Taipei City which had been identified as Livistona decora by some EPS memebers (picture of the mothers attached). Germination was that easy, before I came home from Taiwan they alreday germinated inside the bag with wet paper towel.

Can someone confirm its L. decora?

Eckhard

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14 minutes ago, Palmensammler said:

Hi,

hae some seedlings from Taipei City which had been identified as Livistona decora by some EPS memebers (picture of the mothers attached). Germination was that easy, before I came home from Taiwan they alreday germinated inside the bag with wet paper towel.

Can someone confirm its L. decora?

Eckhard

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None of them is decora!

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Hi  Konstantino, 

thanks for your help. What do you think they are? Seeds where blue outside (picture attached)

Eckhard

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Not an expert on the genus lol. It just happens that decora's leaf shape is very distinctive. What was the real color of gathered fruits, black, jade-green, blue or what? The shape of seed, and location suggest rather an asian sp. 

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I have to ask how hardy are these?

LOWS 16/17 12F, 17/18 3F, 18/19 7F, 19/20 20F

Palms growing in my garden: Trachycarpus Fortunei, Chamaerops Humilis, Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera, Rhapidophyllum Hystrix, Sabal Palmetto 

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Konstantinos,

the seeds where dark blue.

Eckhard

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Chinensis are blue. Decora ripen up black- might be a dark dark blue for a little while.

 

Look up Palm_Flora on the auction site if you really want a decora. I saw he's got one there but the plant is all the way on the west coast here in california.

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Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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Very nice! Haven't heard of a ribbon palm before. Can't tell very well from.the pictures.  Is it pinnate? By the looks of some of the trunks, is it a self cleaning palm?

I'm on my cell. Hence I can't see the pics in detail.

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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I have seen them on Hilton Head Island, S.C. Big tall ones. 

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L. decora is costapalmate, but the leaves are so heavily divided that it has a near pinnate look. The trunks are self cleaning once they get about 15' of trunk, and then there are some lower boots that are persistent at the base. Mine took about 12 years to self clean from a 15 gallon size. It's pretty bullet proof in southern California. Up here to the north they are hardy as well. Fast growers.

 

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Oakley, California

55 Miles E-NE of San Francisco, CA

Solid zone 9, I can expect at least one night in the mid to low twenties every year.

Hot, dry summers. Cold, wet winters.

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4 hours ago, mdsonofthesouth said:

I have to ask how hardy are these?

L. decora has taken down to upper teens and suffered foliar damage. At about 14F spear pulls. But it grows fast enough to quickly recover from cold damage. Great palm! I have 3 large ones I grew from 3g. For some reason, L. chinensis, the most common sp available, doesn't seem to grow or look well here - often stunted & scraggly with yellow-green leaves. Decora is far superior in my area. I also have L. nitida, drudei, saribus, australis, fulva, benthamii & muellerii. Australis is almost as fast as decora and a very handsome palm. Saribus is slower and the green form grows better for me. The others are much slower although my fulva & benthamii are still very young. Muellerii is quite slow but grows fairly well.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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We loaded the last ten today and the ninjas will install them while i am on the road making deliveries 

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One out of place sylvestris will go back to the HQ as well, pre curved for our convenience 

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2 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

L. decora has taken down to upper teens and suffered foliar damage. At about 14F spear pulls. But it grows fast enough to quickly recover from cold damage. Great palm! I have 3 large ones I grew from 3g. For some reason, L. chinensis, the most common sp available, doesn't seem to grow or look well here - often stunted & scraggly with yellow-green leaves. Decora is far superior in my area. I also have L. nitida, drudei, saribus, australis, fulva, benthamii & muellerii. Australis is almost as fast as decora and a very handsome palm. Saribus is slower and the green form grows better for me. The others are much slower although my fulva & benthamii are still very young. Muellerii is quite slow but grows fairly well.

 

Ahh figured Id ask as my l. Chinensis started growing from the trunks and they did not spear pull after seeing single digit for long periods of time. Sadly they will only look pretty for a few months before January or February when the fronds die.

 

This was about 2 weeks ago and with the heat and humidity they are getting faster. Figured Id see if it was similar to chinensis. Thanks for the info!20180526_180657.thumb.jpg.2f9ce5b67a661b

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LOWS 16/17 12F, 17/18 3F, 18/19 7F, 19/20 20F

Palms growing in my garden: Trachycarpus Fortunei, Chamaerops Humilis, Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera, Rhapidophyllum Hystrix, Sabal Palmetto 

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17 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Hi  Konstantino, 

thanks for your help. What do you think they are? Seeds where blue outside (picture attached)

Eckhard

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These look a lot like L. speciosa seeds. According to palmpedia, the seeds on these are blue-green.

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9 hours ago, Patrick said:

L. decora is costapalmate, but the leaves are so heavily divided that it has a near pinnate look. The trunks are self cleaning once they get about 15' of trunk, and then there are some lower boots that are persistent at the base. Mine took about 12 years to self clean from a 15 gallon size. It's pretty bullet proof in southern California. Up here to the north they are hardy as well. Fast growers.

 

Thank you.  Costapalmate and self-cleaning palm! Amazing!!!!

5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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On 5/30/2018, 6:08:16, Umbrae said:

I leaned them over like this so they will curve back and the heads shouldnt drop trash, seeds etc onto shade house, we will finish out landscaping with some copernicias and probably some more crotons ..altbough my crotons took one heck of a hit this last winter  

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That lineup will look great in a few months with full crowns. Good work

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A very much, under appreciated palm that should be seen a lot more both in the home and commercial landscape. As much as someone might swoon over the sight of a grove of tall Mex. Fans, (attractive no doubt)  the silhouette created by tall L. decora could easily rival the look. I keep trying to convince my seedlings into growing a little faster:P

A couple pictures from Kopsick in St. Pete, FL. Taken on Dec. 24, 2014, (1st picture) and Feb 2016 (2nd picture). 

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Decora are less hardy than chilensis.  I have a hundred 3g decora @$8 eea. 

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49 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Decora are less hardy than chilensis.  I have a hundred 3g decora @$8 eea. 

Good deal. Decoras are one of the most elegant Livistonas and so fast & easy. I have 3.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Both of mine were killed this past winter by the freak ice storm we had & a night of 16F. One had about 8 ft of trunk & wad planted 15 years ago, the other had 3 ft of trunk.

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Sorry to hear you lost them, Laaz.  I guess I was under the mistaken impression that these would survive mid-teens when mature, but obviously not if precipitation and long freezes are included.

 

 

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L. Chilensis will survive single digits when mature. My 15' decora died this year at 13 degrees. 6'ct chilensis in 45g pots survived 8f at the nursery.  

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On 6/1/2018, 6:24:37, Laaz said:

Both of mine were killed this past winter by the freak ice storm we had & a night of 16F. One had about 8 ft of trunk & wad planted 15 years ago, the other had 3 ft of trunk.

Laaz, will you replant some decora since they grow so fast? Doubt you will have such a winter for a while if decades. How bout your Queen palms? will you replant those?

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37 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

@Umbrae Jungle Tunnel looks bad ass!

TCHP, thanks it still has a long way to go 

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these things germinate so fast. I always have 100% success rate and mostly germinate in less than a week for me.

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4 hours ago, Umbrae said:

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very cool. is this Houston suburbs?

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2 hours ago, mthteh1916 said:

very cool. is this Houston suburbs?

No, but ribbons would work like a champ there 

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On 6/1/2018, 8:32:38, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

L. Chilensis will survive single digits when mature. My 15' decora died this year at 13 degrees. 6'ct chilensis in 45g pots survived 8f at the nursery.  

Livistona decora has been high on my list to try up here. Although what about Livistona nitida? I seem to gather that it is the most hardy (maybe besides L. chinensis bud-hardy wise). 

Here is a Livistona in a neighborhood near me where judging by damage on other palms (Large Phoenix moderately burned, Washingtonia 75+% burned, P. robelenii killed) it was around 19-20 deg. Virtually no damage- does anyone know which species it is? I want to say Livistona decora.

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