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SoulofthePlace

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What do I have here? Archontophoenix cunninghamiana or alexandrae? Thank you!

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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Tough to say, to me they look like regular Kings. The easy way to tell is to look under the leafs. Are they silver without rementa?

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Most likely cunninghamiana. It's allover the Azores. Perhaps the most common palm here.

 

 

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São Miguel, Azores, 37N, Zone 11B, Elevation 110m, Yearly average 18c (64F), Record low 4c (40F), Record high 30 (86F)

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1 hour ago, enigma99 said:

Tough to say, to me they look like regular Kings. The easy way to tell is to look under the leafs. Are they silver without rementa?

What is a King palm (Latin name) by your opinion or by fact? The seller whom I bought these two from (in Criação Velha) was marking them as "Alexander Palm". So I immediately thought they are "Ptychosperma elegans" (being a newbie), but then... and now... and so are they cunnighamiana or alexandrae? I attached today's photos. I am not sure what rementa is and not sure if they are silver? (I am very good at telling all three Washingtonias apart and that's it). (Thanks)

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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@SoulofthePlace, those look like common king palms to me.

The reason is that the first picture in your post immediately above shows: (a) the reverses of the leaflets are green, not silver; and (b) there's dark brown "insect hair" looking things in the centers of the reverses of the leaflets.

Those palms are too small to bloom yet (at least here in California), but when they do, you'll really know what they are: if the flowers are purple, they're kings; if they're white they're Alexanders.

(I've heard Ptychosperma elegans called Alexander palm, too, but it's totally different.)

Hope this helps.

Also see my Private Message ("PM") and for @Shoowow, too.

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Ok looking at the bottom of those, they are 100% cunninghamania. 

 

Just took some pics of my alexandraes now. You can easily see the difference 

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Now I will know what I got in my yard, purchased as "Alexander palm" :D And when it blooms I will know even better, be it white or purple. Even if it is common, I enjoy it, especially that it's not as tall as Alexandre and not as thick of a trunk. Thank you guys!

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Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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I have a Happy Hurricane Hybrid between an Alexander and a King that's about 45 feet (15 M) tall, planted back in 2003. It has purple flowers, but it also has silver reverses on the leaves, plus a flaring of the trunk like an Alex "Beatricieae".

It sets tonnes and tons of seeds, but most don't grow.

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Here’s my Happy Hurricane Hybrid 

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16 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Here’s my Happy Hurricane Hybrid 

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This palm is a winner DD!

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Very beautiful palm!

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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