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Beccariophoenix first flowering attempt..

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quaman58 Grand Master

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Hey all,

I've posted this B. fenestralis a number of times over the years. It was planted in 2003 as a 5 gallon plant & has been a steady, trouble free, moderate grower ever since. It started developing some clear trunk about 3-4 years ago. So last evening, I'm walking around with a brew attempting to beat back the weeds & trimming dead palm fronds & notice this.. There's actually 2 "torpedos" growing. We'll see if they abort or hold. Fingers crossed! Thanks for looking..

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"In the shadow of the Cross"

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Great looking palm Bret.  Looks like those are going to be some monster sized spathes.  Would be amazing if this eventually sets some seed for you even if the first few spathes don't.  Will look forward to the progress shots!

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What a  gorgeous palm.

Has it ever presented any iron deficiency?

Btw, what is the diameter on the clean trunk? 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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Thanks for the replies guys. Alex, no trouble with iron deficiencies. I've had younger ones that have had that trouble, but the combination of some sun protection & good fertilizer usually work in bring back good color. That being said, they will definitely let you know if they're unhappy in the area you've chosen to plant them. I've gotten to the point where I'll place a potted palm in an area for months to see how it responds prior to plugging it in. The clean trunk is 16"-17" across; somewhat wider at soil level. Not huge. The crown is another matter!

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Bret

 

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14 minutes ago, quaman58 said:

Thanks for the replies guys. Alex, no trouble with iron deficiencies. I've had younger ones that have had that trouble, but the combination of some sun protection & good fertilizer usually work in bring back good color. That being said, they will definitely let you know if they're unhappy in the area you've chosen to plant them. I've gotten to the point where I'll place a potted palm in an area for months to see how it responds prior to plugging it in. The clean trunk is 16"-17" across; somewhat wider at soil level. Not huge. The crown is another matter!

Dude that's awesome. Why is it that fenestralis is said to not grow well in California? I skipped out on buying a lot of 1gallon fenestralis at $3 each because I read somewhere that they don't do well here. 

Show us a picture of the whole palm! 

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Looks like a Coconut and obviously can thrive in a California habitat! :D

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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Thanks for the replies guys. Alex, no trouble with iron deficiencies. I've had younger ones that have had that trouble, but the combination of some sun protection & good fertilizer usually work in bring back good color. That being said, they will definitely let you know if they're unhappy in the area you've chosen to plant them. I've gotten to the point where I'll place a potted palm in an area for months to see how it responds prior to plugging it in. The clean trunk is 16"-17" across; somewhat wider at soil level. Not huge. The crown is another matter!

Wunderbar!!! Fantastic news. My hopes have been lifted thank to you for my Fenestralis. No iron deficiencies as well. It is however, in mostly shade.  Gets direct sunlight 2 hours a day. And then on and off.. but, unlike my Alfredii, it's growing beautifully. And I realize with a clean trunk, they are nowhere near as wide as some folks make 'em out to be. Just hope mine gets to be as pretty as yours.

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38 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

And I realize with a clean trunk, they are nowhere near as wide as some folks make 'em out to be.

They're usually pretty thick, but I guess it's more so under ideal conditions.

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34 minutes ago, Zeeth said:

They're usually pretty thick, but I guess it's more so under ideal conditions.

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I recognize that palm. :D it's fatter twin is just a few feet away :winkie:

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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This is great news - congratulations!!

I have just got my last year`s November rps-order sprouted - first time ever I purchased that species - 

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...and it is looking nice and promising! It will be interesting to see how they will deal with our conditions.

Thank you very much for posting - fingers crossed for yours!

best regards from Okinawa -

Lars

 

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I remember that picture Keith; what a beast. Looks like a Cocos on steroids. Here's s couple of the palm crown. Always hard to get a good picture; it's jammed in pretty tight. Thanks for the replies..

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Danke!! Wunderbar!  Fantastic!!!!!

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Haha! That looks so cool, if I were to just see the tops of the fronds I would flip out thinking it is a coconut. Nice palm and good job growing it! :greenthumb:

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May I ask as to which fertilizer you employ on your magnificent  B.Fenestralis?  It's a showstopper.

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2 minutes ago, PalmTreeDude said:

Haha! That looks so cool, if I were to just see the tops of the fronds I would flip out thinking it is a coconut. Nice palm and good job growing it! :greenthumb:

Hear, hear!

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That is top article!  That looks ubertropical. And then some.

As DD would say: "That's   (expletive) beautiful!"

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29 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said:

May I ask as to which fertilizer you employ on your magnificent  B.Fenestralis?  It's a showstopper.

Alex, I'm a very irregular fertilizer. This one has been fertilized only when others have. It's just never had any special needs. Some of the seedlings I've grown however have turned yellow (in pots). There's a product I got online called Ferriplus that worked very well for potted specimens. One pound went a long way. It's a "chelated iron" product; whatever that may be.

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Bret

 

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@quaman58!

It’s just super glad to see you!

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I did not intend to post again after my congrats, but this is...

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...just spectacular!! 

What a mind blowing beauty - awesome!

I am going to look my little seedling deeply into its eyes, messaging: "Hurry up, man!" ;) 

best regards

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Magnifique! BETTER looking than a Cocos! :yay:

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Naples (inland), FL - technically 10a but more like 9b in the winter :hmm:

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That looks great! Where is this located? I just planted a b. alfredii here in Orlando this spring. 

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56 minutes ago, pj_orlando_z9b said:

That looks great! Where is this located? I just planted a b. alfredii here in Orlando this spring. 

This is here in San Diego, in a 10a climate zone.

Thanks for all the kind comments!

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17 hours ago, GottmitAlex said:

That is top article!  That looks ubertropical. And then some.

As DD would say: "That's   (expletive) beautiful!"

Just [expletive expletive expletive expletive] . . . .

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On 4/22/2018, 9:23:03, quaman58 said:

Hey all,

I've posted this B. fenestralis a number of times over the years. It was planted in 2003 as a 5 gallon plant & has been a steady, trouble free, moderate grower ever since. It started developing some clear trunk about 3-4 years ago. So last evening, I'm walking around with a brew attempting to beat back the weeds & trimming dead palm fronds & notice this.. There's actually 2 "torpedos" growing. We'll see if they abort or hold. Fingers crossed! Thanks for looking..

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killer Bret!!!

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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it never gets old looking at that palm

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Update; it’s taking its sweet time. But slow progress. We’ll see if any seeds set...

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Bret

 

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Now the question is, when will the first B.alfredii flower outside of habitat?

I am thinking the aldredii palm has been stuck in time. For all we know, it could begin to flower when it turns 50 years of age...

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Thought I’d share one last progress shot. Not a particularly bountiful crop of seed, but considering it’s the first year, I’ll take it. They’re just about ripe, as the fruit begins to turn purple. Hopefully the next update will have some germination results. The circle of life....Thanks for looking!

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Will this be the first crop of Beccariophoenix seeds in California?

Keith 

Palmetto, Florida (10a) and Tampa, Florida (9b/10a)

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Keith, I honestly don’t know. They’ve sure been grown for while here, certainly since the early ‘90s.  Although fenestralis are fickle, I remember a posting on this forum with a huge madagascariensis in SoCal. I would guessed that one would have flowered before. 

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On 10/14/2018, 11:49:21, quaman58 said:

Hopefully the next update will have some germination results. The circle of life....Thanks for looking!

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Any updates on the seeds yet Bret?  You have done a great job with this plant!  I have one I planted from a 7 gallon probably between 2008 and 2010, but it's been extremely slow.  I put it way to close to a Pritchardia hillebrandii if mine ever does get going.  Just curious if its like so many palms which are slow when small and then hit a point of momentum where they seemingly accelerate?

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Tracy,

 

All the seeds are fully purple but have yet to fall off on their own. There's about 30. They actually developed quickly, compared to say, Pritchardia. This palm falls into the category of "better lucky than good" as it relates to me. It grew briskly from the time I brought it home; not crazy fast, but always moving. So it wasn't like a lot of palms that finally speed up with size. I remember seeing one at Greg Hammanns that was a good 10 years older than this & was maybe 4 feet tall. Unpredictable dang things, even in a great garden like Greg's. Yours looks reasonable good; I wish I had some words of wisdom to speed it up..

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2 hours ago, quaman58 said:

I wish I had some words of wisdom to speed it up..

Thank you for the info.  I guess I'll just continue being patient with it. :)

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