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Wallachia distichia In bloom

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I planted this back in 2010 from a 2 gallon kinda ratty looking

Magnificent now, next to Roystonea oleracea and Chambeyronia hookeri towering above my house.

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Wunderbar!! Just capital! 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

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Anyone know how long before the seeds come?

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1 hour ago, Palm Tree Jim said:

Another palm to plan the removal of.......

After it gets seeds!

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After it gets seeds!

Matty B had his own tree blooming this winter, but resulted fruits (provided that they were really fruits and not merely declining flowers) were duds. Gee, it is so weird reporting  to a Californian over another Californian's garden from the eastern hemisphere. Never mind, I fear that this sp is either dioecious or bears unisexual flowers maturing at different times on the same inflorescence. In latter case multiple successive blooming or, even better, multiple blooming specimens are needed for a pollination. Perhaps you should contact Matty and exchange pollen if inflorescences are accessible. 

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Nice looking specimen Dave.  You better have another one nearby if you are looking for seed, that is if yours is a female.  This palm is dioecious.    I had a couple in my garden (male and female) and the first 2 years of flowering produced zero viable seed.  Third year was a charm and produced gobs of viable seed.  I was even throwing the pollen around every year, since Wallichia's produce pollen by the gallon.  I believe after 3rd or 4th year it died, and slowly declines after first flowering. I still have a partial trunk in the garden that I grow resurrection ferns on it.  Good luck to you.

 

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2 hours ago, Mike Evans said:

Nice looking specimen Dave.  You better have another one nearby if you are looking for seed, that is if yours is a female.  This palm is dioecious.    I had a couple in my garden (male and female) and the first 2 years of flowering produced zero viable seed.  Third year was a charm and produced gobs of viable seed.  I was even throwing the pollen around every year, since Wallichia's produce pollen by the gallon.  I believe after 3rd or 4th year it died, and slowly declines after first flowering. I still have a partial trunk in the garden that I grow resurrection ferns on it.  Good luck to you.

 

Alas, 'tis a lonely hermaphrodite. According to Palmpedia, it's not dioecious: http://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Wallichia_disticha

"Inflorescences unisexual, staminate and pistillate borne on the same stem, the pistillate terminal and the staminate lateral; "

On the other hand, @bgl reported difficulties getting seed from a number that were planted together. Given that, @MattyB's issues as reported by @Phoenikakias aren't surprising, either. So . . .

Keeping Ms. Chain Saw in her cage. For now.

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Beautiful Dave! I'm reasonably sure that it should have uni sexual flowers as well-- it would be a real oddity among fishtails if it didn't. I was able to observe a very stunted Caryota urens a few years back to watch it's floral development. It took almost a year for the flowers (which I initially thought were seeds) to develop. Then almost overnight, they popped open & the bees did their thing. The seeds then took another several months to do their thing. Almost a two year process from beginning to viable seed. Would love to observe the history of yours as it goes.

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13 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

After it gets seeds!

 

11 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Matty B had his own tree blooming this winter, but resulted fruits (provided that they were really fruits and not merely declining flowers) were duds. Gee, it is so weird reporting  to a Californian over another Californian's garden from the eastern hemisphere. Never mind, I fear that this sp is either dioecious or bears unisexual flowers maturing at different times on the same inflorescence. In latter case multiple successive blooming or, even better, multiple blooming specimens are needed for a pollination. Perhaps you should contact Matty and exchange pollen if inflorescences are accessible. 

Mine produced 100% duds too. Curious how they get pollinated? :wacko:

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Looks like Madame Chain saw will be relegated to the dungeon . . . .

For now.

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