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Another shock. This went through the 16F ice / snow storm & looks like it survived. I thought is was dead, cut the top off and sure enough it is coming back.

 

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That seems equivalent to what I have experienced. Last year my similar sized P. sunkha experienced (unprotected) a low of 20F with very little cool down before hand.  The palm lost the spear and newest frond.  Other fronds had minor burn. A new spear emerged in late May/early June. This past winter, the palm experienced 17F while covered by paper sacks and a black plastic trash bag. No noticeable damage this year.  This palm only grows for me during the fall/winter/spring (and slowly at that), so decided to protect this year. Am leery that loss of the spear could prove mortal for this species that seems to shutdown during my summers. Am hopeful that as the palm is gaining size it is also gaining some hardiness.

Have you noticed if your P. sunkha continues to grow thru summer?

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Yes, it put out a few fronds last summer.

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whoa

big

HORSE :bemused:

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My remaining sunkha reverts to juvenile leaves and sulks after a hard freeze (low 20's under frost cloth).  Hopefully, it will grow out of that (and grow).  I would keep the growing point dry until full growth has pushed past the cut.

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I have this small sunkha planted two years ago at strap leaf stage; we had 19 deg f last winter and also this year, zero damage with frost cloth protection.

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O  the other hand, Yatty x queen not so good...

 

 

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4 hours ago, Laaz said:

O  the other hand, Yatty x queen not so good...

 

 

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the trunk is still green though. Can't it come back?

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I'm hoping. My Lytocaryum has much less damage.

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9 hours ago, Laaz said:

O  the other hand, Yatty x queen not so good...

 

 

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Yikes, thought that should've done much better. I know mules can be unpredictable sometimes when they get more queen or butia traits. But say you take your average mule palm, is it safe to say they can take upper teens most of the time and come back without major damage? or in your situation is it that you got a little worse than a "just below 20 deg quick upper teen freeze" and/or heavy winter precipitation that made the difference with it getting so much damage?

If I create my FL Panhandle zone 8b tropical yard one day, mules would be the foundation for such a theme.

As for the P. sunkha, that's another one I'd like to try here.

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10 hours ago, Laaz said:

O  the other hand, Yatty x queen not so good...

 

 

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Standing 8 count :violin:

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I think it was a combination of 16F freezing rain in the grown. It was just a freak winter event. All six of my mules had spear pull.

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3 hours ago, Laaz said:

I think it was a combination of 16F freezing rain in the grown. It was just a freak winter event. All six of my mules had spear pull.

Are any of them coming back? Mules are beautiful and one of my favorite palms.

 

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Yeah, they are all pushing new spears.

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2 hours ago, Laaz said:

Yeah, they are all pushing new spears.

yeah but isn't the one above that only has the green trunk a mule? Where is the new spear I can't see it? Can you take a close up?

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The palm's growth point is pushing the center up as you can see in the picture. A new spear will eventually emerge.  Looks very similar to my 5 gal size Queen and Bismarkia's right now but my low was 21. 

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Yep, that white spot is the new spear pushing.

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Hope your Parajubaea makes it.  My Copernicia alba suffered from my stupidity in over-protection during our 20º F night.  I wrapped it with some old Christmas lights that burned hotter than I expected (first time using).  Here it is one day after surgery in Feb and 2 weeks later:

 

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Well, i decided to pull one of these 15g out and put it in the ground just to try. This is the coolest spot we have in the summer with good airflow. Im confident it'll do well in the summer but the winter will test it for sure.   

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37 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Well, i decided to pull one of these 15g out and put it in the ground just to try. This is the coolest spot we have in the summer with good airflow. Im confident it'll do well in the summer but the winter will test it for sure.   

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You’re fine in the summer. These love cooking in high heat. Nice palm!

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On 3/29/2018, 9:16:23, Moose said:

Standing 8 count :violin:

Lmao! Want to put money on it Bullwinkle?

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On ‎3‎/‎29‎/‎2018‎ ‎10‎:‎58‎:‎36‎, Laaz said:

O  the other hand, Yatty x queen not so good...

 

 

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5 hours ago, Laaz said:

Lmao! Want to put money on it Bullwinkle?

As my Jamaican friends would say. "Da ting be dying mon". :badday: 

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On 3/29/2018, 9:16:23, Moose said:

Not quite...   

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On ‎4‎/‎5‎/‎2018‎ ‎10‎:‎00‎:‎39‎, Laaz said:

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Something is definitely getting pushed out. Using up stored reserves of carbohydrates. If you can get it to start the photosynthesis process and produce carbohydrates to sustain the palm there is a chance.

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On ‎4‎/‎5‎/‎2018‎ ‎10‎:‎00‎:‎39‎, Laaz said:

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On ‎4‎/‎6‎/‎2018‎ ‎8‎:‎33‎:‎59‎, Moose said:

Something is definitely getting pushed out. Using up stored reserves of carbohydrates. If you can get it to start the photosynthesis process and produce carbohydrates to sustain the palm there is a chance.

9 days later, is it still pushing that nub? Any green?

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It will be fine.

 

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3 hours ago, Laaz said:

It will be fine.

 

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What are those lights for adjacent to the plant? Is that to add heat protection on super cold nights?

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Nope, just solar lights.

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1 hour ago, Laaz said:

Nope, just solar lights.

Cool bet that looks good at night all lit up with the greeness of the palms fronds. Especially in winter.

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On 3/21/2018, 2:10:32, Austinpalm said:

That seems equivalent to what I have experienced. Last year my similar sized P. sunkha experienced (unprotected) a low of 20F with very little cool down before hand.  The palm lost the spear and newest frond.  Other fronds had minor burn. A new spear emerged in late May/early June. This past winter, the palm experienced 17F while covered by paper sacks and a black plastic trash bag. No noticeable damage this year.  This palm only grows for me during the fall/winter/spring (and slowly at that), so decided to protect this year. Am leery that loss of the spear could prove mortal for this species that seems to shutdown during my summers. Am hopeful that as the palm is gaining size it is also gaining some hardiness.

Have you noticed if your P. sunkha continues to grow thru summer?

Are there any phoenix palms in the Austin area? the zone there is 9a according to data from Mabry airport.  I google streetviewed and couldn't find any, but that is not really reliable.

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2 hours ago, mthteh1916 said:

Are there any phoenix palms in the Austin area? the zone there is 9a according to data from Mabry airport.  I google streetviewed and couldn't find any, but that is not really reliable.

 There are plenty in austin and houston.  There are also plenty of trunking phoenix in the Dallas/fort worth metro as well.

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I was down in Jacksonville a couple weeks ago. The city spent a lot of money lining the center of the streets with huge phoenix palms. Also saw quite a lot of large queens in yards.

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1 hour ago, Laaz said:

I was down in Jacksonville a couple weeks ago. The city spent a lot of money lining the center of the streets with huge phoenix palms. Also saw quite a lot of large queens in yards.

Charleston should do that with filibusta and with sylvestris palms.

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1 hour ago, Laaz said:

I was down in Jacksonville a couple weeks ago. The city spent a lot of money lining the center of the streets with huge phoenix palms. Also saw quite a lot of large queens in yards.

I wish more southern cities would do public planting of hardy phoenix and filibusta palms. They would do fine.

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12 hours ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

 There are plenty in austin and houston.  There are also plenty of trunking phoenix in the Dallas/fort worth metro as well.

can you recommend any street views to see them?

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On 4/16/2018, 7:15:40, Laaz said:

It will be fine.

 

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Glad to see your Yatay mule coming back - hope to see leaves opening up soon.

Jon

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Thanks Jon.

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The Sunkha is doing great as well.

 

 

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