Offsets on mutant Chamaerops?

[DoomsDave]

Just dug up this mutant Chamaerops I got from the late Dick Douglas.

Looks like it has offsets that can be separated and planted.

Anyone have experience in this regard?

 

[DoomsDave]

[Laaz]

Chamaerops  & Rhapidophyllum suckers both root very easy.

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

If you can get the offset off with at least one root and use rooting hormone you will have a low mortality rate. I haven't had great luck rooting a sucker of chamaerops without at least a small piece of root. 

[Fusca]

I've wondered the same thing.  I've read before what has been suggested, but the suckers on the last Chamaerops I had were fairly high up (above soil line) and didn't have any roots.  Maybe this was just too young to try and root?  If I had attempted to get a root I would have had to cut some of the trunk of the mother plant.  Is that what needs to be done?

Jon

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

13 minutes ago, Fusca said:

I've wondered the same thing.  I've read before what has been suggested, but the suckers on the last Chamaerops I had were fairly high up (above soil line) and didn't have any roots.  Maybe this was just too young to try and root?  If I had attempted to get a root I would have had to cut some of the trunk of the mother plant.  Is that what needs to be done?

Jon

Thats too young. You just about need one with a 1liter bottle size trunk.  

[Palm Tree Jim]

DD,

Did you want to post a picture for us?

[DoomsDave]

Here's one, nice roots lots of leaves.

[DoomsDave]

Here's a cluster of them, give a good, firm, steady tug and off they come.

But they have to be mature; if not the base with the roots breaks off. (How do you think I know? )

 

[Darold Petty]

no can see, Dave !

[Palm Tree Jim]

Why the tease DD?

[DoomsDave]

PICTURES ARE NOT POSTING TO THIS SITE

 

[Fusca]

19 hours ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

Thats too young. You just about need one with a 1liter bottle size trunk.  

Thanks Joseph.  I'll have to give it a try sometime.

[DoomsDave]

Still no pics

[DoomsDave]

Scream 

[DoomsDave]

Pictures uploaded

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

That will live, no problem. 

[DoomsDave]

[Neil C]

That sure is a strange mutation. Looks like grass. Has yours ever flowered or produced seed?

Regards Neil

[TexasColdHardyPalms]

Those are strange indeed. Look just like dasylirion at that size...

[dalmatiansoap]

Wow, strange 

[PalmatierMeg]

Dave, if that's the mutant Chamaerops I'm thinking about, do try to preserve it if possible. I remember Dick Douglas posting photos of his mother palm - very odd looking and many people thought it was ugly. But I thought it was cool and worthy of cultivation. When Dick passed away I believe some of his palm's offspring went to important gardens for preservation.

[Cikas]

Wow, looks amazing. Beautiful mutation! 

[DoomsDave]

It's Dick Douglas' mutant, yes indeed.

It's true to seed, and when the seeds come, I'll make some available (though not as a freebie).

[Darold Petty]

Here are two photos of Dick Douglas' original plant.  I believe there is an old thread where Dick discusses his plant.  From memory I recall that he found it as an outlier appearance among many siblings in a nursery in the Southeast.  This clone is self-fertile, and the seeds come true to the parent.

  After I had known Dick for a good period he offered me a small example of this palm.  I don't care for the appearance, and it was rather a sticky situation to decline in a gracious manner ! 

 

[DoomsDave]

Here’s the big plant

[DoomsDave]

Here’s the babies in the greenhouse 

[Fusca]

Dave, that is an interesting plant there, but I agree with Darold - not so crazy about the appearance.  I was given a similar looking Chamaerops once, but I think mine was just sickly because the main trunk had died and only 4 or 5 suckers were still alive.  But the fan leaves (appearing to not open all the way) were very similar to these.

Jon

[Fusca]

Seeing how you got offsets with roots has me interested in trying this method of propagation myself!

[PalmatierMeg]

4 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

It's Dick Douglas' mutant, yes indeed.

It's true to seed, and when the seeds come, I'll make some available (though not as a freebie).

Yay! Guess I have a weakness for homely, scorned palms. When people spat on the Gaussia genus I had to try it (G. spirituana where are you?). I even tried Syagrus glaucescens but it hated my FL swelter, declined then died. Oh well.

[Fusca]

On 12/12/2017, 7:50:34, DoomsDave said:

Pictures uploaded

Dave, did you use a sharp-shooter shovel to remove these?  It looks like you did a great job!  Also, I assume the roots were underground and not visible prior to separating - is that right?  I'm hoping to try this again soon.  I've only tried once and failed to get a root and the offset was roughly the size of yours.

Jon.

[DoomsDave]

11 minutes ago, Fusca said:

Dave, did you use a sharp-shooter shovel to remove these?  It looks like you did a great job!  Also, I assume the roots were underground and not visible prior to separating - is that right?  I'm hoping to try this again soon.  I've only tried once and failed to get a root and the offset was roughly the size of yours.

Jon.

I grabbed and pulled most of them off; I used a sharp kitchen knife for the others.

Roots not visible from the surface.

Hoping they grow and set lots of seeds for the homely palm lovers out there in palm land.

[Fusca]

Awesome, so not too much work involved!  I was wondering why I didn't see any cut marks on your offsets so pulling by hand is definitely the way to go if possible.  Hopefully I'll have a similar experience this time.  I'm sure your offsets will do great since I see so many roots - thanks for the info!

Jon