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Large Butia


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I went for a walk today and decided to take a picture of a nice large Butia.  I have driven by these many times before but took the chance to snap a picture.  I wonder how old it is?

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It looks more like a Jubutia splendens. The trunk is so massive and smooth....

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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I'll take some more pictures tomorrow of some of the other large Butia in the area.  Some of them like the one pictured above have a thick trunk.

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8 hours ago, Alberto said:

It looks more like a Jubutia splendens. The trunk is so massive and smooth....

Yes,even I felt like wise. Could be a hybrid.

Its age could be 35 to 40 years old.

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Kris.

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closest one sure looks like it has jubaea blood.  The further one has the butia curvature to leaves, closest one is a wide crown and much less curvature in leaves.  I remember Phil Bergman(jungle music) saying that hybrids occur naturally in northern california in some stands where both ere planted.

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Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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beautiful.  I have always liked how Butias can modify the habit of their frond development depending on sun exposure.  Some trees I have seen under dappled light from taller adjacent trees get longer, more delicate fronds.

 

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It's very large, especially for a Butia. It does appear that some hybrid vigor may be involved. Quite the specimen regardless

 

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Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

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First Picture is a close up of the first palm in the original post.  These palms are on State Street in Santa Barbara from the 2000 to 2500 Block.

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The second picture is of the furthest palm in the first post. 

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The third picture is of what looks like a more normal sized Butia.

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The forth picture is of a nearby Palm at an apartment complex.

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The seeds are very small. With the fruit attached they are about the size of a Nickle and without the fruit smaller than a Dime in width.

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1st and 4th palms are looking jubaea blood, crosses with jubaea mother or jubaea dominant mother, JxB, JxBxB to me.  the others could just be different butia species, yatay is a bigger palm than eriospatha or capitata and has less curvature than most other butia sp.  the naturally smooth trunks tend to be more of a jubaea trait, though I havent seen many really old(>30yrs) butias.  Butias lifespan is 70-80 yrs, jubeaeas live much longer.  

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Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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6 hours ago, howfam said:

Nice pictures. We have huge Butias here in Jacksonville Fl., some approaching 100 years old. 

Pics??

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Texas Cold Hardy Palms:

Sorry, my computer won't let me post pics right now, but do see my several big Butia pics posted under the topic : "Best Butia Shots-Post Em' Here" from 2014 & 2015.

Howfam

 

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