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Interesting, hope they do ok, my understanding is that that isn’t ideal climate or soil conditions for them. They especially may not look their best in that full sun location. 

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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Full sun and sandy soil is sure death for Trachycarpus.  The nematodes will get them for sure.

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I've given some thought to putting a few of these on the north side of my property where it is shaded most of the year, but haven't heard many success stories with these in Central Florida.  There was one planted in the median of South Florida Ave after the 2010 freeze, but it didn't make it very long.

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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Trachies are boooooring,forests of them here.They are naturalized,also in full sun they grow very tall and their trunks are skinny but in a bad way.Plant tropical plants not the ugly cousins of washies.

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On 11/12/2017, 1:02:19, CroToni said:

Trachies are boooooring,forests of them here.They are naturalized,also in full sun they grow very tall and their trunks are skinny but in a bad way.Plant tropical plants not the ugly cousins of washies.

I don't think they are ugly at all. I think they look great when they get that tall skinny washingtonia look.    I'm not sure if the sand is bad or not. Ive seen some around here that are fairly tall and look great.   I have even seen them as far south as Fort Lauderdale FL and they were tall and beautiful.    Ill be very interested to see how these do!  Thanks for sharing and please keep us posted / updated!  

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1 hour ago, DCA_Palm_Fan said:

I don't think they are ugly at all. I think they look great when they get that tall skinny washingtonia look.    I'm not sure if the sand is bad or not. Ive seen some around here that are fairly tall and look great.   I have even seen them as far south as Fort Lauderdale FL and they were tall and beautiful.    Ill be very interested to see how these do!  Thanks for sharing and please keep us posted / updated!  

 

The ones I have seen that get good sun exposure and care can have almost a sabal palmetto looking crown. One of my trachycarpus has this look (the best a 3.5x3.5ft palm can lol). But what makes them standout the most for me is the fur on the trunk!

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LOWS 16/17 12F, 17/18 3F, 18/19 7F, 19/20 20F

Palms growing in my garden: Trachycarpus Fortunei, Chamaerops Humilis, Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera, Rhapidophyllum Hystrix, Sabal Palmetto 

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They plant these along with palmettos from Virginia beach to North Florida, and when they are in full sun most of the time they tend to have little crowns, but when they are in shade, they can look stunning! I heard they don't like really hot summer heat (AKA the Southern U.S. summers). But I feel like the ones planted in Daytona are going to end up looking like sticks with a few fronds on the top, a little more than they have now. 

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My trachyarpus did well during our humid subtropic summer, but definitely see them not being happy when they dont get a break from the heat AKA south florida. At least where we live they get a break lol.

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LOWS 16/17 12F, 17/18 3F, 18/19 7F, 19/20 20F

Palms growing in my garden: Trachycarpus Fortunei, Chamaerops Humilis, Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera, Rhapidophyllum Hystrix, Sabal Palmetto 

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On 11/27/2017, 3:03:25, mdsonofthesouth said:

 

The ones I have seen that get good sun exposure and care can have almost a sabal palmetto looking crown. One of my trachycarpus has this look (the best a 3.5x3.5ft palm can lol). But what makes them standout the most for me is the fur on the trunk!

Hmmm. Ive never seen one look Sabal like to me.  Sabals have a very distinct leaf shape in that they are costapalmate. If you were to take a fan of a Sabal Palmetto and flatten it out, it is not a round fan like most fan palms are. Its an odd shape that rises in the middle to a point.  When we see them on the trees   you can clearly see the distinct backwards "curl"  of the fans as the midribs recurve back towards the trunk. They have always been very distinct / different looking than any other fan palm to me.  Just my view tho.  B)

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Hmmm. Ive never seen one look Sabal like to me.  Sabals have a very distinct leaf shape in that they are costapalmate. If you were to take a fan of a Sabal Palmetto and flatten it out, it is not a round fan like most fan palms are. Its an odd shape that rises in the middle to a point.  When we see them on the trees   you can clearly see the distinct backwards "curl"  of the fans as the midribs recurve back towards the trunk. They have always been very distinct / different looking than any other fan palm to me.  Just my view tho.  B)

 

What I meant is a nice compact but lush crown. I have seen some understory ones where the fronds reach out and the crown, while healthy, isnt bushy. 

Full sun:

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LOWS 16/17 12F, 17/18 3F, 18/19 7F, 19/20 20F

Palms growing in my garden: Trachycarpus Fortunei, Chamaerops Humilis, Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera, Rhapidophyllum Hystrix, Sabal Palmetto 

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If not taken care of, they can look pretty bad like ignored southern California queens.  This is a relatively healthy specimen near where I used to work in Brenham, TX, but it still looks pretty bad to me.  If I remember correctly it's on the SW corner of the house.

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