Caryota plumosa ?

[sashaeffer]

In a rare event Home Depots here in Omaha all received a large shipment of tropical palm trees other than the typical Majesty palms.

One that caught my eye is Caryota plumose  which I had never heard of that species of Caryota and next to nothing on Google. Anyone here ever hear of that species type before?  The leaves were very dark green, thick and leathery.

[Jdiaz31089]

My first guess, without seeing a picture, would be that it is likely caryota mitis. They sell these often as indoor plants. 

[sashaeffer]

I didn't know if Plumosa was a old name for a current species like Mitis. 

[Pal Meir]

The only “plumosa“ palm species I know are: Chamaedorea pl., Dypsis pl. and Cocos pl. = Syagrus romanzoffianum. — Caryota mitis does not have plumose fronds.

[sashaeffer]

Plant tag

[Pal Meir]

Looks like a normal C mitis, and the leaves are not at all plumose. — Typical plumose leaves you can see on Wodyetia and Normanbya, e.g.

[Pando]

2 hours ago, Pal Meir said:

The only “plumosa“ palm species I know are: Chamaedorea pl., Dypsis pl. and Cocos pl. = Syagrus romanzoffianum. — Caryota mitis does not have plumose fronds.

http://www.gbif.org/species/3593216

Looks like Caryota plumosa is an accepted species.

[Pal Meir]

17 minutes ago, Pando said:

http://www.gbif.org/species/3593216

Looks like Caryota plumosa is an accepted species.

Hmmm …  

[Pal Meir]

Quite obscure: 

[Keith N Tampa (ex SoJax)]

3 hours ago, sashaeffer said:

Plant tag

What does the actual plant look like, C mitis?

 

[sashaeffer]

It does look like plant picture on tag, just not as full but on the taller, thin(clump) side.

[V-Cycle]

C. mitis 

[Mandrew968]

12 hours ago, Pando said:

http://www.gbif.org/species/3593216

Looks like Caryota plumosa is an accepted species.

No, it's not. It is a ploy to sell more of an otherwise common plant, by slapping a different name on it. Someone should slap the person...

[Pando]

3 hours ago, Mandrew968 said:

15 hours ago, Pando said:

http://www.gbif.org/species/3593216

Looks like Caryota plumosa is an accepted species.

No, it's not. It is a ploy to sell more of an otherwise common plant, by slapping a different name on it. Someone should slap the person...

What are you disputing? I said that according to GBIF it's an accepted species, and mentioned nothing about Home Depot's motivations.

That said, KEW does not list it as accepted species. Can anyone clear this up?

[Pal Meir]

Moore in Principes 1963, p. 134:

[doranakandawatta]

1 hour ago, Pal Meir said:

Moore in Principes 1963, p. 134:

Oh My God, if I remember what I was able to say or to listen in 1963 ... !   

But it seems you're right when you mention that Kew is the only reference, for example : "Areca gupyanna and Areca novohibernica = synonyms" Kew says.
Even if Areca novohibernica I have seen in Singapore Botanic Gardens do not ressemble to Areca Gupyanna I see in Samarakoon's garden or in our Morning Garden.

 

[Pal Meir]

46 minutes ago, doranakandawatta said:

Oh My God, if I remember what I was able to say or to listen in 1963 ... !   

I had in 1963 two Phoenix dactylifera, one Chamaerops humilis and two Chamaedorea elegans. 

[Mandrew968]

Pando, seeing as how it is not listed on kew nor on palmweb.org, it's not a valid name. Someone was trying to get cute, in order to make a few bucks.

[sashaeffer]

Ok so went and bought one and here are two pictures to help with accurate ID of this fishtail palm.

 

 

 

[Pal Meir]

C mitis

[sashaeffer]

Pal, While I know with your experience your correct how can you tell?

[topwater]

Sure looks like C. mitis, nice specimen whatever it is.  Hard to imagine HD selling any other clumping Caryota in Nebraska. 

 

 

 

 

[sashaeffer]

Yes, who ever the plant buyer was for this area scored a TON of tropical palms that has never been in the area before until this year including 8/9 ft tall bottle palms, smaller foxtails, 10 ft coconuts, and even a bizzy in a 20 gallon tub which I would have bought but it was $136. Most of the other stuff was between $44-$55.

My fishtail was $44

[topwater]

Good grief, that's a way better selection than my HD!  And most of that group is just as likely to survive a winter in Omaha as in Houston. 

Edited June 11, 2017 by topwater

[Pal Meir]

God luck! It will grow VERY FAST, even indoors …