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Palms for the uk


palm789

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Is there any hardy palms besides trachy,chamaerops,phoenix,butia that are worth getting for the uk i live in south wales,i want a sabal minor and a washingtonia but i dont know if their a good choice

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A Sabal minor would do fine where you are tempature wise but it will be very slow growing. If you could get your hands on a Sabal palmetto, a trunking palm, it would also do well. Both are native to the Southeast United States but are slow growers. 

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I visited S. Wales in July 2007 - lows in the 40sF, highs in high 50sF/low 60sF, lots of clouds & rain. I believe we had one sunny day when we visited Cardiff & Swansea. A decent sized Sabal might survive there but will be glacially slow. Sabals need sun, summer heat & rain to build enough reserves to survive winter. But if you can find one at a decent price, try it. If you can grow Butias, try a mule palm.

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My advise, forget what you read about palms, ultimate lows mean nothing, it depends on summer temperatures as well and rain. Its not warm enough for Sables and unless you live on the coast I suspect you will have to protect the Washy in the winter. I killed mine in north Wales. One thing I am growing that is not on your list is Jubaea , but I do live right on the coast. I get -5c here what do you get were you are. :greenthumb:

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sabal is off the list then,so looking at a jubeaa then now need a bigger fan palm other than trachycarpus and chamaerops

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On 5/21/2017, 10:07:11, palm789 said:

Is there any hardy palms besides trachy,chamaerops,phoenix,butia that are worth getting for the uk i live in south wales,i want a sabal minor and a washingtonia but i dont know if their a good choice

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Hi Palm 789, one thing I missed off the list that I have planted out is Trithrinax campestris, but its not very fast. If you are planting a Butia I would recommend a Eriospatha as they don't mind the wet, but they don't like soggy feet so don't bother if you can not give them a free draining soil. Also some things I have in pots ready to go in the garden without protection are Chamaedorea microspadax and radicalis both of which do well for me. Phoenix loureiri, also no problems. Livistona chinensis and decipiens both grown from seed although the decipiens has had some leaf burn this winter for the first time. I have a Butia x Jubaea which is growing well and a Mule palm but I only bought that last year so I don't know if that will do ok. I think you my do ok with a Brahea but I haven't tried one myself. I hope that gives you something to think about. It all depends on your minimum temperatures in the winter and weather or not you have free draining soil. I garden on sand (beach). Good luck keep us posted.

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to be honest the winters are getting milder in the uk,last time i had deep snow in the uk is back in jan 2013

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How about Juania australis? Very pricey but thrives in cool climates (e.g. Kells Bay or Howth). Hardiness similar to Butyagrus.

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