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Rhopalostylis Oceana


el-blanco

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This palm is quite happy as of late. About 15 years old from a 5 gallon.  Does not like the heat.

i think this was a Palm from Tom Simpson when he had his nursery.

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Looks gorgeous but I would have expected a bit more size after 15 years. Aren't oceana relatively fast growing?

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Looks like an awesome baueri variant. But apparently an even more awesome sapida variant.

Gorgeous, whatever it is.

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On 5/15/2017, 10:59:52, Matt in OC said:

Looks gorgeous but I would have expected a bit more size after 15 years. Aren't oceana relatively fast growing?

Matt,  I agree it should be MUCH BIGGER. I had quite a few issues with it when young, but never gave up on it.  Im hoping it will take towards the sky now that it is happy again.

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18 minutes ago, el-blanco said:

Matt,  I agree it should be MUCH BIGGER. I had quite a few issues with it when young, but never gave up on it.  Im hoping it will take towards the sky now that it is happy again.

I think everyone expects it to act like a baueri, which it isn't, which is a lot faster growing.

Let me know when it seeds . . . .

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Very nice looking palm

By Rhopalostylis Oceana do you mean from Chatham Islands

I ask as i have two in my garden that i grew from seed from Robert De Jong " pogo bob"

I could be wrong but it looks a lot like Rhopalostylis baueri cheesemani to me because it has arching fronds , and a crownshaft that is not huge and swollen like chatham islands sapida.  Oceana has silver petioles.

cheers Troy

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Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

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I losthink a Cheesemanii a year ago.  Great thread to remid me to climb back on the Rhopalostylis horse.  Fantastic palms everyone! 

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Has anyone tried germinating these palms, do the seeds need heat or no?being where there from..

 

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I germinate 1000s of them and do so by leaving seed in 2plasticbags from time I pick off bunch till germinated.I don't use heat and don't clean them either

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Thank you Gary, 

I collected some on a recent trip to NZ so I had to clean them to get through customs. 

How long do they take to germinate? 

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I went to samoa mid march for a surf trip and collected adonidia merrillii seeds there,  then on route back to Sydney stayed at friends house near Piha collected seeds from his yard. Super red and fresh 

Arrived back 1st April

Ok so a year, a bit to go.....

So no need for heat. .

Does heat reduce germination for these?

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I don't think they are Chatham type, 

I don't know too much about them. 

The common ones around Piha. 

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On 16/05/2017, 04:00:44, el-blanco said:

This palm is quite happy as of late. About 15 years old from a 5 gallon.  Does not like the heat.

i think this was a Palm from Tom Simpson when he had his nursery.

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Doesn't anyone else think this looks like a Hedyscepe canterburyana? I certainly do! It's a close relative of Rhopalostylis, but to me, this is Hedyscepe.

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UK zone 8b/9a. No heavy frosts. Occasional -6c. Dull wet winters. Cool summers.

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Heres my Oceana in my Fallbrook garden.  Getting big and still not trunking yet.  This is 7 years from a 5 gallon, with my daughter for scale.  

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Kermadec Is Nikau (left) Chathams Is Nikau, (right)  Have 6 of each all same size. Thinking long term here but will enjoy in pots for a few more years :)

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Here  are R. baueri v. cheesmanii and R. sapida v. Chatham/Pitt island. Most sapida have pinkish/maroon buds., R. baueri & sapida Chatham/Pitt have ivory/cream buds,  refer to the third photo which is R. sapida v. Chatham/Pitt island.  

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I went through some old images, here are two normal R. sapida spadices,    :winkie:  

 

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These R. sapida var. Chathams are at Larnach Castle in Dunedin NZ. Have been in the ground around 18years. Are about 200m above sealevel on the Otago Peninsula on a north facing slope. [Edit - closer to 300masl)

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Those would of copped some snow over the years 

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21 hours ago, Phil Petersen said:

These R. sapida var. Chathams are at Larnach Castle in Dunedin NZ. Have been in the ground around 18years. Are about 200m above sealevel on the Otago Peninsula on a north facing slope. [Edit - closer to 300masl)

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I remember these palms when they were featured on a special NZ episode of Better Homes and Gardens and they would have been 60cm to 1m tall. They mentioned them saying they were a tough palm that have also had snow on them at times with no damage. After that I needed to get some. It probably was about 18 years ago approx.

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On 9/20/2017 at 11:09 PM, David York said:

Doesn't anyone else think this looks like a Hedyscepe canterburyana? I certainly do! It's a close relative of Rhopalostylis, but to me, this is Hedyscepe.

Yes, thats exactly what I thought. Fronds look recurved like H canterburyana.

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