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Sabal x Brazoriensis

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I saw a mature brazoria palm at barton springs for the first time and was amazed at it's incredible mass and huge leaves. They almost remind of green bismarcks or a sabal minor on steroids. I thought sabal mexicanas were cool until I saw this Brazoria. For some reason I assumed this ancient hybrid had a small trunk. Not so.

Anybody here growing these? I would love to see more photos of them.

Here's a picture of it... sorry for the quality... it was taken from the car through the fence with the phone. I'll get a close-up next time I'm over there.

 

 

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Man that palm is huge all right love it! :yay: 

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Beautiful specimen! A friend of mine is growing one in Wichita, it is sending up a flower stalk now...Hope I can grab some seeds this year! :) 

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I want one and have the perfect spot for one! anyone have a good place to get these???

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Ok I went back to check it out and get some more photos and take home a souvenir :)

Here's the photos of the large tree labeled as a Brazoria Palm, a couple details of it's structure, and some potted plants they had for sale... and the one I picked.

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That's a great souvenir you got there Brian. It's very cool that you found a brazoria that big that wasn't in the wild. Big ones don't seem that common yet, so it's neat to see what all of these smaller specimens that palm lovers are planting will grow up to be.

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Thanks Ben! I'm looking forward to growing it out.

I would love to find a seed source for Brazoria palms. If anybody knows, please message me. My wife's family has land in the Brazos valley and I'd really like to plant some large numbers of these and S. Mexicana in the creek bottoms and along the ponds. It's in zone 8b, but it definitely gets colder there than it does here in Austin.

Here's a fun photo I took today of a s. mexicana

 

 

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Hi,

I too like to find a source for seeds as it's not affordable to buy plants from the US due to a lot of expensive paperworks needed by the customs.

For seeds it's not a problem.

Eckhard

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On 4/28/2017, 1:06:17, jfrye01@live.com said:

Beautiful specimen! A friend of mine is growing one in Wichita, it is sending up a flower stalk now...Hope I can grab some seeds this year! :) 

Good luck, I'd like to see what the seeds look like. I know they are smaller than s. mexicanas. I saw the photo you posted of his straplings, they look great. Do you have a photo of the flowering plant?

On 5/1/2017, 7:45:46, mdsonofthesouth said:

I want one and have the perfect spot for one! anyone have a good place to get these???

I picked this 5g at barton springs nursery in Austin. They didn't have any 1 gallons or I would've bought all of them :)  They had a few large ones and some greenish s. uresanas as well. They did have s. uresana in 1 gallons... to my eyes they didn't look very blue, but I know they can be variable.

To me it looked like most of the 5gallon brazorias had 2 plants growing in the same pot. I picked the one that just had 1 in it. I didn't want to deal with separating them or having them grow into each other.

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On 5/12/2017, 11:15:43, Brian F. Austin said:

Good luck, I'd like to see what the seeds look like. I know they are smaller than s. mexicanas. I saw the photo you posted of his straplings, they look great. Do you have a photo of the flowering plant?

I picked this 5g at barton springs nursery in Austin. They didn't have any 1 gallons or I would've bought all of them :)  They had a few large ones and some greenish s. uresanas as well. They did have s. uresana in 1 gallons... to my eyes they didn't look very blue, but I know they can be variable.

To me it looked like most of the 5gallon brazorias had 2 plants growing in the same pot. I picked the one that just had 1 in it. I didn't want to deal with separating them or having them grow into each other.

On 5/12/2017, 11:15:43, Brian F. Austin said:

Good luck, I'd like to see what the seeds look like. I know they are smaller than s. mexicanas. I saw the photo you posted of his straplings, they look great. Do you have a photo of the flowering plant?

I picked this 5g at barton springs nursery in Austin. They didn't have any 1 gallons or I would've bought all of them :)  They had a few large ones and some greenish s. uresanas as well. They did have s. uresana in 1 gallons... to my eyes they didn't look very blue, but I know they can be variable.

To me it looked like most of the 5gallon brazorias had 2 plants growing in the same pot. I picked the one that just had 1 in it. I didn't want to deal with separating them or having them grow into each other.

On 5/1/2017, 7:45:46, mdsonofthesouth said:

I want one and have the perfect spot for one! anyone have a good place to get these???

I took these pictures about a month ago, I'm sure the stalk is huge now! 

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Thanks for the photo J, It's cool that they can flower before they trunk. i've been watching the progress of s. mexicana in the neighborhood pushing up stalks. it's interesting the variability in the lengths. I can't wait to harvest seeds from my favorite mexicanas.

I saw a small trunked palm at Mayfield park the other day that looked out of place among all the tall S. mexicanas around. it looked about like the brazoria above with a split in the middle of the frond. One floppy frond was snapped on the right side. Also it had flowered before. You can see the old and new flower stalks in the photos. It did have a cool color also, little more matte green. Maybe a s. minor lousiana? Anybody care to guess?

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These are so awesome! But how coldhardy are they really? How do they handle long lasting freezes and moist winters?

I can grow Sabal minor without protection and also T. fortunei most winters. Sabal x brazoriensis looks like the only chance I have to grow a massive fan palm.

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On 2017-5-7 14:20:31, Palmensammler said:

Hi,

I too like to find a source for seeds as it's not affordable to buy plants from the US due to a lot of expensive paperworks needed by the customs.

For seeds it's not a problem.

Eckhard

Hi Eckhard, I got a small one sent from palmeperpaket in Germany last winter. 

Might be worth asking them if they still have any.

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On 5/18/2017, 12:38:16, Brian F. Austin said:

Thanks for the photo J, It's cool that they can flower before they trunk. i've been watching the progress of s. mexicana in the neighborhood pushing up stalks. it's interesting the variability in the lengths. I can't wait to harvest seeds from my favorite mexicanas.

I saw a small trunked palm at Mayfield park the other day that looked out of place among all the tall S. mexicanas around. it looked about like the brazoria above with a split in the middle of the frond. One floppy frond was snapped on the right side. Also it had flowered before. You can see the old and new flower stalks in the photos. It did have a cool color also, little more matte green. Maybe a s. minor lousiana? Anybody care to guess?

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It could very well be S. brazoriensis.  When they are more mature, they become far more costapalmate than when young.  

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Hello Ivorhooper,

checked their homepage and recognized that they received a new delivery of them. As I will be in Munich in two weeks I'll drive by and pick up one. Thanks for the info, didn't check their page in the last time.

Eckhard

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On 2017-5-21 11:39:58, Palmensammler said:

Hello Ivorhooper,

checked their homepage and recognized that they received a new delivery of them. As I will be in Munich in two weeks I'll drive by and pick up one. Thanks for the info, didn't check their page in the last time.

Eckhard

That's good news. Mine was unfazed by winter and starting growing around March time albeit very slowly. Not too bad for the north of England!

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