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What's faster: Mule Palm or Butia x Parajubaea?


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Which is faster growing, at least in Florida?:

Butia Odorata x Parajubaea Cocoides (hybrid)

OR

Butia Odorata x Syagrus Romanzoffiana (hybrid - "mule palm" )

I already have a mule plan and am considering purchasing a BxPJ as well.  There are reports that they grow quickly in California, but I just don't know about Florida. Parajubaeas sometimes don't like our humidity and wet weather in Florida (the current drought is abnormal).

Also, what is the cold tolerance of Butia x Parajubaea Cocoides relative to a typical Mule Palm?

Finally, is Patric Schaeffer still the only person on the planet selling Butia x Parajubaea hybrids?

And my very last question -- Has anyone heard of pathogens like Fusarium Wilt attacking the Mule Palm due to its syagrus lineage?

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Wow.  I can't speak to other climates, but BxP easily 2-3x faster for me here in California.  No comparison.

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Yah, what Ben said,  we have a Patric BxP at the Lakeside Palmetum in Oakland.  It is easily the fastest growing palm in that garden.

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San Francisco, California

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Off topic: Are BxP sterile like BxS?  What BxP flowering history is known at all?  Pardon the threadjacking.

Andrei W. Konradi, Burlingame, California.  Vicarious appreciator of palms in other people's gardens and in habitat

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Good question. I thought there was a pic of an older hybrid in another thread. The owner may be able to answer.

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I believe the male pollen is sterile, but the female flowers are receptive.  I dont have large enough specimens to know for sure. 

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44 minutes ago, TexasColdHardyPalms said:

I believe the male pollen is sterile, but the female flowers are receptive.  I dont have large enough specimens to know for sure. 

I have a cross that Patric S. did that is half mule, so I think somehow it is possible...

Ben Rogers

On the border of Concord & Clayton in the East Bay hills - Elev 387 ft 37.95 °N, 121.94 °W

My back yard weather station: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=37.954%2C-121.945&sp=KCACONCO37

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Has anyone heard of a mule palm being killed by the pathogen which is now killing so many Washingtonias, Syagrus and Phoenix palm? (At least in Florida)  If this were a possibility, I would err on the side of the Butia x Parajubaea hybrid instead of planting another mule palm.  I just don't know whether the Butia "half" of a mule makes the whole tree less susceptible to syagrus diseases.

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