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Distinguish Parajubaea sunkha from torallyi?

DoomsDave

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I have both species in my garden and the differences are obvious enough when tor tor becomes the 800 pound gorilla and sunkha doesn't. But how do you tell for sure when they're smaller, say 5 or 15 gallon size?

Thoughts?

 

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Funny you should ask. I have one of each I just got from Kevin Weaver. I'll post pictures when I get a chance. My sunka's fronds aren't bi-pinnate yet. The tor tor is. Both I think were 5 gals. Both are the same size and height. I just planted them a month ago. 

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Leflets of sunkha are twice as rigid as those of tvt. Alberto has recognised my small plant, which grows next to a torallyi, without even having to touch it! 

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7 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

Leflets of sunkha are twice as rigid as those of tvt. Alberto has recognised my small plant, which grows next to a torallyi, without even having to touch it! 

Hmm.

A review of my specimens in the ground shows the opposite.

Some have suggested that sunkha has golden tomentum under the leaves, while tor tor has bronze or brown.

 

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I have just checked mine,  tomentum is rather silverish with some pink hues. But it grows in shade... 

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Hmm.

I can't see the difference in the pictures. The sunkha is immature so far.

I'll look again.

I want to plant another sunkha, but not another tor tor.

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I have already narrated my own experience. This man had recognized my small sunkha at once from some distance. I got very impressed, so there is a way of intant visual recognition. He was to far (and the small plant was lying ro low) to notice any color of tomentum. 

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It's simple, Dave.  Just have Alberto go with you while palm shopping !  :mrlooney:

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5 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

It's simple, Dave.  Just have Alberto go with you while palm shopping !  :mrlooney:

... or send to him a picture of the selected plant!:P:P Apart from jokes I consider also the possibility that both spp after a certain size look similar and smaller than that plants are not sought after. 

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