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S. romanzoffiana mutation?


Jdiaz31089

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With Syagrus romanzoffiana being as common as it is, there are bound to be odd-ball specimens that show up from time to time. I drove by this one today and took a quick picture while waiting at a red light. It's obviously very different in form from all of the other S. rommies. It's very upright, and the short spacing between the growth rings suggests perhaps it grows slower or more compact than the others. Could this just be a natural mutation? A hybrid perhaps? Or could it be due to cultural factors such as access to water or nutrients?

 

(FYI, growing in Fresno - inland, central California))

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Can't say for sure. But it looks overpruned and underfed.

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Overpruned, sure, but clearly it is different than the others anyway, the leaves are less plumose.  I think it's a nice find, would be better with better care.  I can't say if it's just genetic variation or if there is some kind of hybridizing going on.

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2 hours ago, Xerarch said:

Overpruned, sure, but clearly it is different than the others anyway, the leaves are less plumose.  I think it's a nice find, would be better with better care.  I can't say if it's just genetic variation or if there is some kind of hybridizing going on.

I agree,in every respect.

Look around and you'll find the multi headed queens of doom

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I have found a similarly looking specimen in Nauplion, Greece. After a relevant post in the European Palm Society, I came to knwoledge that this form used to be common in a certain location in NZ.

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But the one here is beyond competition:mellow:

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14 hours ago, Xenon said:

I like the look...like a softer date palm

Hey! you're right, it kind of does!

 

@Phoenikakias do you think this variation would come true from seed? If it is a variation, and not a mutation perhaps the traits would pass on to its offspring. It has a slight resemblance to the famed abreojos. 

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11 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

I agree,in every respect.

Look around and you'll find the multi headed queens of doom

hah! I have yet to see one of these monsters

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3 hours ago, Jdiaz31089 said:

 

 

@Phoenikakias do you think this variation would come true from seed? If it is a variation, and not a mutation perhaps the traits would pass on to its offspring. It has a slight resemblance to the famed abreojos. 

Even I sometimes have asked this question,but the answer has always been the same, that no one knows

GIUSEPPE

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4 hours ago, Phoenikakias said:

I have found a similarly looking specimen in Nauplion, Greece. After a relevant post in the European Palm Society, I came to knwoledge that this form used to be common in a certain location in NZ.

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But the one here is beyond competition:mellow:

This one looks like xButyagrus

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14 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Even I sometimes have asked this question,but the answer has always been the same, that no one knows

 

18 hours ago, Jdiaz31089 said:

Hey! you're right, it kind of does!

 

@Phoenikakias do you think this variation would come true from seed? If it is a variation, and not a mutation perhaps the traits would pass on to its offspring. It has a slight resemblance to the famed abreojos. 

I will be able to answer your questions after 5 years!

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Here's a mutant in La Habra off Whittier booklet at citrus

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8 hours ago, Fallbrook Jason said:

What about this one. I saw a lot like this in Santa Cruz, CA. Very upright!

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I've seen these before as well in the Santa Maria area, they're really unique looking.

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On 2/3/2017, 2:22:41, Gonzer said:

It's actually a cell phone tower.

Can you here me now?:D

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Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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8 hours ago, Fallbrook Jason said:

What about this one. I saw a lot like this in Santa Cruz, CA. Very upright!

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I have seen one in vista off Emerald drive and the 78FWY that looks just like this Jason. Kinda has an Attalea look to it?

Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation)

Sunset zone 24

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9 hours ago, Fallbrook Jason said:

What about this one. I saw a lot like this in Santa Cruz, CA. Very upright!

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And it has a very robust trunk too!

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