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What temp should I really worry at?
I know the Livistona chinensis isnt going to do well where I am, but the clump was cheap as dirt and I planted it anyways. Worst case its a perennial until I can get my seedling sabal minor to a plantation size. But what temperature should I start worrying about this clump? I might just do a permanent greenhouse for it so it will have a head start in 2018 and will trunk better than it has this year.
I have 7 trachycarpus fortunei that are well rooted and while all have put out several fronds since march (feel like even the slower ones have put out 10+ ythis year but Ive been bad at recording progress) Im worried about their first winter. While some have started putting out large fronds starting in early summer, and all have a good rooting I want to protect my investment and will be doing mulching + rope lights on the mulch + canopy to prevent wet feet. What temps should I worry about these first year palms? I know they will be fine in a few years but Id like to know what yall think from your experiences. The tag said hardy to 10F per Home Depot and I know the stats online, but these are a fresh plantation as of march 2017 and any insight from those who have done marginal plantation would be much appreciated.
As an FYI for my chamerops humilis I used 15F as the marker for the temp greenhouse and that worked very well as that palm even grew during the winter! Thanks yall!
By Brad Mondel
I’ve had this Trachycarpus wagnerianus for a few years and so far it grows extremely slow. It gets one frond per year and the fronds are different from the regular Waggies. Has anyone seen a Waggie like this before?
Mature Trachycarpus put into Full Sun (crown shrink)
We have 2 (of 3) Trachycarpus fortunei left in the landscaping from when our house was built almost 17 years ago. They have done surprisingly well, surviving upper teens (as expected), extremely poor, sandy soil, and temps in the 90's and 100's in the summer.
Here's one of the 2 remaining.
They all have had good growth. The 2 that were in a more shady spot did the best. One of them was next to a spreading laurel oak, and had the most vertical growth compared to other 2. Well, the oak was getting huge, and being right next to the house, we removed it (this is back in July 2014). By the time of the oaks removal, the Trachy's crown was becoming buried in the canopy.
Here's the palm right after the oak tree was removed showing a healthy crown.
Slowly, but steadily after the oak tree was removed, fronds began to yellow and turn brown until the canopy now looks like this.
I'm pretty sure this is a case of a sudden exposure to full sun.
It still has what looks like healthy green leaves coming out the top.
I guess the crown may be miniature from now on.
Just for fun, here's a view from near the top.
Our Trachy made me think of an place here in my town that has some Trachy's planted in a common median area. Many of them are quite old with all the trunk fiber/leaf bases long gone. It is in full sun, and their crowns look similarly small. I guess it's just their reaction to such conditions.
Conversely, ones I saw growing in full sun in a cooler and wetter climate (like near the waterfront in Vancouver, B.C.) had larger, much fuller crowns. I guess that climate must be that more favorable for them versus the very hot Southeast US in areas with sandy, infertile soil.
Here's the aforementioned median area planted with Trachy's. The other ones (farther down out of view) have similarly small crowns like this one
Trachy petioles not extending out from crown
I have a 7' trachy fortunei that I planted in March this year. It was Balled and burlapped. The pal petioles do not seem to extend out of the crown area. it has about 4 that are not extended but bunched around the crown. Will it grow out of this or is there any thing I can do to help it. It has been watered well and new spears are coming in. It has also had osmocote & Epson salt.
Trachycarpus in DC
Wanted to share the below pic. I was in DC two weeks ago, right after that brutally cold week we had in the Northeast. I saw this house in the DuPont area with two fine looking Trachy palms. Looking good!