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Lytocaryum weddellianum as Bonsai
By Pal Meir
My 10 Lytocaryum weddellianum grown up from seed in 2013 were more and more getting too tall for my desktop, except one (N°1306c) which I had kept quite small by very brutal root pruning. (But even the other pruned palm N°1306a is growing too tall …)
Now I am intending to keep my 3 one year young L batavum as small bonsai palms. First, I will keep them as long as possible in their tiny Ø8xH9cm clay pots. Second, I will expose them also to direct sunlight, but watching that they don’t get burned.
@Jamesasb , you have mentioned (and posted a pic) one year ago that you are making one of your L weddellianum to a bonsai. Are there already visible and positive results?
Here the desktop-sized N°1306c:
And here the 3 new bonsai candidates:
The Lyto which would not grow bigger
By Pal Meir
This is the story of the weakest of ten Lytocaryum weddellianum seedlings.
In 2013 all other seeds germinated between April 01 and 26, only one small seed germinated much later on May 8 after 49 days (cf. pic #1). And this seedling N°1308 would not grow like its siblings and stayed small though it was the only single seedling which was planted since the beginning in a large Ø12xH12 cm clay pot (cf. pic #2). (The other five singles N°1301 to N°1305 had only tiny Ø8xH9cm clay pots.) So I checked the roots and was very worried (pic #3). The soil mix could not be the the reason because the other Lyto weddells were planted in the same mix. So I guessed it might be that the draining hole of the pot was closed by something too tight. I placed another piece of a clay pot over the hole and repotted the palm with the same soil into the same pot. And it became looking happier (pic #4) and is a happy little bonsai palm until now, pushing its 18th leaf (pic #5), with very strong and healthy roots (pic #6).
So we can see that even an ideal soil mix may cause problems when the pot is too large or the drainage not optimal.
Anyone growing lytocaryum weddellianum outdoor
anyone from tropical climate growing lytocaryum weddellianum in outdoor. i heard they don't like much water
Lytocaryum weddellianum - Repotting
Hello all, I have a Lytocaryum weddellianum growing on my kitchen window sill which is south facing. It has been doing really well and continues to grow through the winter months! I have noticed it's roots are starting to pop out the bottom of the pot, I was wondering if any of you think I should re-pot it in a few months or just leave it in its current pot for longer? I am thinking of getting a Lechuza pot for it with Lechuza pon. I have only been watering when the soil is close to drying out, allowing the water to drain. Also does anyone know how it copes with root disturbance? If you could let me know your thoughts it would be greatly appreciated.
Lytocaryum: Syagrus insignis vs. S. weddellianum
By Pal Meir
Syagrus insignis vs S. weddelliana
Between 1995 and 2010 the species Lytocaryum insigne (now again Syagrus insignis) was treated as synonym for the "correct" term Lytocaryum weddellianum (now Syagrus weddelliana). In this thread I am trying to document the differences between these two species during their first years since germination.
Literature discussing the genus Lytocaryum (Noblick & Lorezi 2010) and its transfer to Syagrus (Noblick & Meerow 2015) can be downloaded as pdf:
(or via IPS)
It would be very nice if also other members could contribute their photos which show the characteristic differences between these two species or their similarities when they have pinnate leaves.
My first sketch shows the typical habit of adult trees. I regret that I don’t have my own photos which I could post here. The next photos document that it can be impossible to distinguish their seeds: Seeds of S. insignis may be smaller or bigger or of the same size.
The other photos document the differences between the seedlings, beginning with photos of half a year old juvenile plants. All Syagrus weddelliana germinated in April 2013, all Syagrus insignis in February and March 2014.
Here the sketches: Actually S. insignis (here from Espírito Santo) is much taller than S. weddelliana (here Rio de Janeiro) and its trunk is also much thicker:
Two seeds looking totally alike:
All seeds of S. insignis which germinated in 2014 were smaller than the average of L. weddelliana:
And here three seeds of actually germinated palms: