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Pritchardia unknown ID

Tracy

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I was hoping to get ID help on a Pritchardia which I purchased several years ago and planted never knowing its identity.  Now that it is not just a tiny seedling, I'm hoping it is beginning to develop some clearer characteristics to identify it.  The tomententum is white on the new leaf spike as well as on the backside of the rachis569f9fea86665_Leafspike-0540.thumb.jpg.9

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Bruh Apprentice

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I'd say P. Schattaueri... maybe. I'm no expert. But with most hawaiian pritchardia, you can't be sure until it flowers and fruits.

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Hmmmm, those Pritchardia are very hard to I.D.  I'd have to disagree with Bruh regarding the possible schattrueri I.D.  P. shattaueri have a larger, flatter leaf in my experience.  Here's a pic below from Dave's garden from way back with a young Bill Sanford for scale.  If I remember correctly this is P. shattaueri and is consistent with the one I'm growing, i.e. large flat leaf.  So, on to Tracy's.....I don't know what it is.  Hahaha, sorry. That wedge shaped frond with the droopy tips should be a clue.  Does it have any lepidida (white or silver scales) on the undersides, or is is straight glossy green?  

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1 hour ago, MattyB said:

Does it have any lepidida (white or silver scales) on the undersides, or is is straight glossy green?  

I don't think it has any lepidida on the undersides.  It's in the backyard of my Carlsbad garden, which I don't get in very often because it is a rental now.  I guess I will have to be patient and see what happens when it finally gets to flowering/fruiting size.  Much appreciated thoughts from both of you.

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Well it doesn't look like it's getting much sun so it's a little stretched making the ID a little harder. I'm sure Rusty sold it to you and he only likes 3 or 4 pritchardias. Hmmm give me a minute. 

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Looks exactly like my "blue moon" - which is the greenish Pritchardia I own. 

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2 hours ago, MattyB said:

Hmmmm, those Pritchardia are very hard to I.D.  I'd have to disagree with Bruh regarding the possible schattrueri I.D.  P. shattaueri have a larger, flatter leaf in my experience.  Here's a pic below from Dave's garden from way back with a young Bill Sanford for scale.  If I remember correctly this is P. shattaueri and is consistent with the one I'm growing, i.e. large flat leaf.  So, on to Tracy's.....I don't know what it is.  Hahaha, sorry. That wedge shaped frond with the droopy tips should be a clue.  Does it have any lepidida (white or silver scales) on the undersides, or is is straight glossy green?  

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That's my P. schautteri all right, and Bill.

That was taken back in the fall of 2006. Oh, a simpler and more innocent time. Simpler, anyway.

The following January, 2007, that same Pritchie was hit hard by the big freeze, but recovered. It's now about 25 feet tall.

 

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2 hours ago, Shon said:

Well it doesn't look like it's getting much sun so it's a little stretched making the ID a little harder. I'm sure Rusty sold it to you and he only likes 3 or 4 pritchardias. Hmmm give me a minute. 

Actually picked it up at a nursery in Fallbrook somewhere around 2008 or 2009, and it was probably about a 1 gallon.  The owner of the nursery didn't know which one it was either as he didn't specialize in palms.  You weren't far off the mark, as Rusty, Jessie and Phil have all helped me with some selections over the years.

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Looks just like my pritchardia remota I got from bill at multiflora. 

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7 hours ago, MattyB said:

Hmmmm, those Pritchardia are very hard to I.D.  I'd have to disagree with Bruh regarding the possible schattrueri I.D.  P. shattaueri have a larger, flatter leaf in my experience.  Here's a pic below from Dave's garden from way back with a young Bill Sanford for scale.  If I remember correctly this is P. shattaueri and is consistent with the one I'm growing, i.e. large flat leaf.  So, on to Tracy's.....I don't know what it is.  Hahaha, sorry. That wedge shaped frond with the droopy tips should be a clue.  Does it have any lepidida (white or silver scales) on the undersides, or is is straight glossy green?  

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Wow. Who is that young guy? 

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Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

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On 1/20/2016, 7:47:59, Stevetoad said:

Looks just like my pritchardia remota I got from bill at multiflora. 

I don't know think it was Multiflora that it came from, as they didn't specialize in palms.  Despite where it came from, remota looks like a possibility when I examine photos on the web.  Next time I get in that back yard, I will have to examine for lepidia, as Matty suggested.  I also see "scattered lepidia" as a characteristic under the Palmpedia listing for remota.  Thank you for your input!

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On 1/22/2016, 9:50:50, Tracy said:

I don't know think it was Multiflora that it came from, as they didn't specialize in palms.  Despite where it came from, remota looks like a possibility when I examine photos on the web.  Next time I get in that back yard, I will have to examine for lepidia, as Matty suggested.  I also see "scattered lepidia" as a characteristic under the Palmpedia listing for remota.  Thank you for your input!

It has a remota vibe to me, too.

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40-year extremes: 96F/26F | 35.5C/-3.8C

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On 1/20/2016, 12:15:22, MattyB said:

 Does it have any lepidida (white or silver scales) on the undersides, or is is straight glossy green?  

Was going through some old photos of it, and it does look like it has the white on the underside.  By the way Matty, tide was killing it this morning, you didn't miss anything.

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Got to take a couple of close ups today.  Same plant, one of the newer opened leaves and one just beginning to open up.

On 1/20/2016, 12:15:22, MattyB said:

Does it have any lepidida (white or silver scales) on the undersides, or is is straight glossy green?  

 

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